FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OzJohnnie]

Jimmy G. back at the helm of the offense?

http://www.sctimes.com/story/sports/college/2014/03/29/sjus-ramler-finalist-st-scholastica-job/7071221/

Dang. Not that Jimmy may be back at the helm but that we could lose Ramler after only one season.  The other candidates better be pretty crash hot or he's a goner.

Not good....Kurt's not only a good coach he's the best recruiter SJU has.  I'd hate to have him recruiting against us.  I realize that St. Scholastica is in the UMAC but he'll be able to get some kids SJU should get.  I think the St. Scholastica job is a lateral move at best.  Yes they've won their conference a couple times but whenever they play anybody of any substance they get beat and usually beat bad.

I am guessing that St. Scholastica would like to join the MIAC someday so maybe they see this as the right move to get them ready to compete.

Very likely...truth is that if they join the MIAC they'll be lucky to be a mid level team in the conference in football.

The fact that he's made the final four candidates means that this reasoning isn't convincing for him but I was hoping that he'd work the offense for four or five years and get some national post season success under his belt as the next job launch pad. Work one or two classes through their entire tenure at SJU. But maybe he gets a lot of satisfaction being at the helm of a team looking upwards with ambition. He did well with that at CC in his first couple years so you never know.

All the same, dang.

[faunch]

In all seriousness...if Ramler is offered and takes the Scholastica job what will SJU do at offensive coordinator?  I don't see them putting Jimmy back in that position.  Would they hire someone from outside the SJU circle?  I don't see that happening as Fasching's circle doesn't appear to be that big?  Are there any SJU guys around the state in the coaching ranks that would have an interest in returning to Collegeville?

[Boys of Fall]

I was hoping/thinking the coaching progression in collegeville was set for a while with Gary at the helm for a period of time and then Kurt taking over.  Obviously Kurt would rather be a head coach sooner rather than later.  Too bad for the Johnnies, he had a lot of charisma and was a good recruiter.  It's getting late this spring, but one has to wonder what this will do to this year's recruiting class.

[DuffMan]

Too bad for the Johnnies, he had a lot of charisma and was a good recruiter.  It's getting late this spring, but one has to wonder what this will do to this year's recruiting class.

Yeah, timing sucks.  I like Kurt a lot, and while I wish him nothing but the best, I really hope he doesn't get the CSS job! 

I really do wonder what they will do for OC if he leaves...

[faunch]

I was hoping/thinking the coaching progression in collegeville was set for a while with Gary at the helm for a period of time and then Kurt taking over.  Obviously Kurt would rather be a head coach sooner rather than later.  Too bad for the Johnnies, he had a lot of charisma and was a good recruiter.  It's getting late this spring, but one has to wonder what this will do to this year's recruiting class.

Kind of a ****ty time of year to take a head coaching job.  Consider this my weak attempt to dissuade Ramler from taking the job.  My guess is that whoever gets the CSS job will not have a very strong freshman recruiting class.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Jimmy G. back at the helm of the offense?

http://www.sctimes.com/story/sports/college/2014/03/29/sjus-ramler-finalist-st-scholastica-job/7071221/

Dang. Not that Jimmy may be back at the helm but that we could lose Ramler after only one season.  The other candidates better be pretty crash hot or he's a goner.

Not good....Kurt's not only a good coach he's the best recruiter SJU has.  I'd hate to have him recruiting against us.  I realize that St. Scholastica is in the UMAC but he'll be able to get some kids SJU should get.  I think the St. Scholastica job is a lateral move at best.  Yes they've won their conference a couple times but whenever they play anybody of any substance they get beat and usually beat bad.

I am guessing that St. Scholastica would like to join the MIAC someday so maybe they see this as the right move to get them ready to compete.

Very likely...truth is that if they join the MIAC they'll be lucky to be a mid level team in the conference in football.

They'll be luck to be a mid level team in the conference as currently composed.  Given that the program started in 2008 and by the 2011-2012-2013 timespan, CSS was already the best program in the UMAC, don't you think they might continue to improve?  Yes, there is a vast gulf between the MIAC and UMAC, but you're looking at this from a static point of view.  If they land a good coaching staff as part of a well-composed plan to join the MIAC, they should continue trending upward, right?

[AO]

They'll be luck to be a mid level team in the conference as currently composed.  Given that the program started in 2008 and by the 2011-2012-2013 timespan, CSS was already the best program in the UMAC, don't you think they might continue to improve?  Yes, there is a vast gulf between the MIAC and UMAC, but you're looking at this from a static point of view.  If they land a good coaching staff as part of a well-composed plan to join the MIAC, they should continue trending upward, right?

I would think CSS will be unable to keep trending upward until they decide to build a stadium.  Playing in front of less than a thousand people across town at Denfeld has to hurt recruiting.

It's also not exactly an insult to say they're mid-level MIAC considering the MIAC might be the best conference in the nation.  Augsburg and Gustavus are capable of winning other leagues and playoff games. 

[MadRedFan]

On the Ramler situation, was also surprised to see that he was out looking already.  On a more negative note (as relates to the SJU staff), maybe the "marriage" wasn't/isn't working out so good.  Having Ramler join up as OC sounded like a good idea to many of us, but maybe it just isn't working in practice.  Maybe the chemistry isn't working with the "ex OC" still on staff and looking over Ramler's shoulder, and Fasching as head coach and an unsuccessful HC candidate as OC, blah blah blah.  I know these guys are all "friends" and disciples of John and all of that, but it could be the coaching box just isn't big enough.

And while I generally agree on the comments about the status of St. Scholastica, they have made the playoffs in multiple sports over the last few years.  It may be a better situation than we think, and a better stepping stone than being OC at SJU.

Would be very curious tho who might replace Ramler if that situation came about.  It's hard to see Fasching going back to JG after dumping him in the first place.

[Boys of Fall]

Remember, Ramler had been out of coaching/out of a job for the year prior to taking the SJU job.  He might not have had any intentions of being a long term assistant, but wanted/needed to get back in the game.

(Re)naming JG OC might not be that far fetched.  I think Jimmy is loyal to SJU and might welcome that (even if it would be somewhat of a "told you so" moment).  Even though a number of us didn't like the number of short side options his offenses usually did score.  As long as you have someone else in charge of recruiting this might happen.

CSS has had some success in other sports as well.  Being newer in these programs they might be willing to spend to get up to being more successful.  This might be enticing to Ramler, and the other candidates.

What happens if CSS doesn't choose Ramler, dynamics will be different in the SJU coaching office.

[faunch]

Upon further review I don't even think CSS would be a mid level team in the MIAC.  Look at their schedule and compare to MIAC opponents.  Crown lost to MAC and only lost to CSS by 10.  CSS might want to be in the MIAC if for no other reason to cut down on travel costs for football.  If they do join the MIAC I don't see them being completive for a while.  I wish Ramler the best if he does take the job.  Hopefully he will be successful.

http://www.d3football.com/teams/St._Scholastica/2013/index

http://www.d3football.com/teams/Crown/2013/index

[DuffMan]

I wish we knew who the other 3 finalists are.  I guess we'll get our answer in 2.5 hours!

[Boys of Fall]

Maybe John Gagliardi misses it.

[sjusection105]

I wish we knew who the other 3 finalists are.  I guess we'll get our answer in 2.5 hours!

Well, do we know anything new yet? Will the forward pass be part of the SJU game plan in 2014?

[faunch]

It's official...
https://twitter.com/Dan_Williamson/status/450723703802695680/photo/1

http://instagram.com/p/mOEc5Ksdoi/

According to Gary Fasching the process to replace Ramler begins immediately.

http://www.gojohnnies.com/news/2014/3/31/FOOTBALL_0331145219.aspx

[sfury]

98 percent of people logging onto SC Times chats now have to change their questions for Gary and Frank since they can no longer complain about Ramler. They can use the rest of the offseason to think of new ones, while also brushing up on basic grammar skills.

I hate to see Ramler go too and he was actually my second choice for head gig after Grant, but at the same time the offense last year was one of the lowest-scoring units in decades at SJU. Whoever takes over should be expected to give that a boost.