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AO

Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Quote from: Johnnie on August 25, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on August 25, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
Quote from: Johnnie on August 25, 2014, 08:26:33 AM

Trivia question of the day.

What former DIII football team, defeated by St. Johns, is playing a DI major power this season?

Minor hint.  John Gagliardi was the coach.


Towson State (1976 Stagg Bowl) playing West Virginia.

Correct.  Congratulations, ROR!

Go Johnnies, and Goooooooo Mountaineers!
People down here in AL aren't treating West Virginia as a DI major power and with good reason. They play in a power conference but have gone 4-8 and 7-6 in the last two years. Two of those wins last year were against FCS schools and one in 2012. So they are 8-14 against FBS schools in the last two years. Major power? Not recently. Or at least not recently by any reasonable contemplation of their results.
There are 1000 college football teams.  There can be more than 5 "major powers".

jknezek

Quote from: AO on August 25, 2014, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Quote from: Johnnie on August 25, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on August 25, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
Quote from: Johnnie on August 25, 2014, 08:26:33 AM

Trivia question of the day.

What former DIII football team, defeated by St. Johns, is playing a DI major power this season?

Minor hint.  John Gagliardi was the coach.


Towson State (1976 Stagg Bowl) playing West Virginia.

Correct.  Congratulations, ROR!

Go Johnnies, and Goooooooo Mountaineers!
People down here in AL aren't treating West Virginia as a DI major power and with good reason. They play in a power conference but have gone 4-8 and 7-6 in the last two years. Two of those wins last year were against FCS schools and one in 2012. So they are 8-14 against FBS schools in the last two years. Major power? Not recently. Or at least not recently by any reasonable contemplation of their results.
There are 1000 college football teams.  There can be more than 5 "major powers".

Of course there are. There are 5 major power conferences, not every school in those conferences is a "major power". Especially at the same time. That would be ridiculous. Unless you wish to mash all 1000 schools together, then all of D1 is going to look like a major power to D3, but certainly not to each other. Current major powers include Alabama, LSU, Auburn, FSU, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan State, Oregon, UCLA... heck, anyone reasonably in the Top 25 is a "major power". West Virginia doesn't qualify right now...

AO

Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 01:17:51 PM
Of course there are. There are 5 major power conferences, not every school in those conferences is a "major power". Especially at the same time. That would be ridiculous. Unless you wish to mash all 1000 schools together, then all of D1 is going to look like a major power to D3, but certainly not to each other. Current major powers include Alabama, LSU, Auburn, FSU, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan State, Oregon, UCLA... heck, anyone reasonably in the Top 25 is a "major power". West Virginia doesn't qualify right now...
I took "major power" as being relative to D3.  It should also be mentioned that Towson is not "minor" considering they beat UCONN by a couple touchdowns last season.

Johnnie

Quote from: AO on August 25, 2014, 01:52:55 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 01:17:51 PM
Of course there are. There are 5 major power conferences, not every school in those conferences is a "major power". Especially at the same time. That would be ridiculous. Unless you wish to mash all 1000 schools together, then all of D1 is going to look like a major power to D3, but certainly not to each other. Current major powers include Alabama, LSU, Auburn, FSU, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan State, Oregon, UCLA... heck, anyone reasonably in the Top 25 is a "major power". West Virginia doesn't qualify right now...
I took "major power" as being relative to D3.  It should also be mentioned that Towson is not "minor" considering they beat UCONN by a couple touchdowns last season.

I am going to consider WVU to be a "major power" if they beat Alabama this weekend.

Then, if WVU loses to Towson the following week, I will then consider SJU to be the greater "power."   

Not likely, but certainly possible.  Stranger things have happened.  ;D

jknezek

Quote from: Johnnie on August 25, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
I am going to consider WVU to be a "major power" if they beat Alabama this weekend.

Then, if WVU loses to Towson the following week, I will then consider SJU to be the greater "power."   

Not likely, but certainly possible.  Stranger things have happened.  ;D

If they beat Alabama this weekend I'll be hard pressed not to smile and laugh around the office. A dangerous act that would make me increasingly likely to suffer a lot of abuse...

D3MAFAN

Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 02:30:06 PM
Quote from: Johnnie on August 25, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
I am going to consider WVU to be a "major power" if they beat Alabama this weekend.

Then, if WVU loses to Towson the following week, I will then consider SJU to be the greater "power."   

Not likely, but certainly possible.  Stranger things have happened.  ;D

If they beat Alabama this weekend I'll be hard pressed not to smile and laugh around the office. A dangerous act that would make me increasingly likely to suffer a lot of abuse...

If and a big one at that, but I'll be joining you, probably listening to the song, "I'm the man" as if I was a player on West Virginia who had just defeated the juggernaut in that of Alabama.


Boys of Fall

Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

faunch

Quote from: Boys of Fall on August 26, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

UMAC or maybe MWC???   ???


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

jknezek

Quote from: Boys of Fall on August 26, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

As someone out of conference and out of region I can't honestly think of one. The MIAC is a hard road right now. I don't think the WIAC is too far behind, but those two conferences seem, top to bottom, quite a bit ahead of anyone else.

OldAuggie

Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: Boys of Fall on August 26, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

As someone out of conference and out of region I can't honestly think of one. The MIAC is a hard road right now. I don't think the WIAC is too far behind, but those two conferences seem, top to bottom, quite a bit ahead of anyone else.
The MIAC schedule is Murderer's Row this year.
MIAC champions 1928, 1997

02 Warhawk

Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: Boys of Fall on August 26, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

As someone out of conference and out of region I can't honestly think of one. The MIAC is a hard road right now. I don't think the WIAC is too far behind, but those two conferences seem, top to bottom, quite a bit ahead of anyone else.

Could be a close one. The WIAC has been on top for a few years now (according to D3football). We should see where each conference ranks in a couple of hours (Kickoff 2014).

I think the E8 took a big step forward last season by getting two teams in the second round of the playoffs. The only other conference to do that last year was the WIAC.  Then again, that was last season. We'll see how this season unfolds.

Will two teams from the MIAC get into the playoffs this year? Or will they beat each other up and have only one get in, like last year?

AO

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on August 26, 2014, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: Boys of Fall on August 26, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

As someone out of conference and out of region I can't honestly think of one. The MIAC is a hard road right now. I don't think the WIAC is too far behind, but those two conferences seem, top to bottom, quite a bit ahead of anyone else.

Could be a close one. The WIAC has been on top for a few years now (according to D3football). We should see where each conference ranks in a couple of hours (Kickoff 2014).

I think the E8 took a big step forward last season by getting two teams in the second round of the playoffs. The only other conference to do that last year was the WIAC.  Then again, that was last season. We'll see how this season unfolds.

Will two teams from the MIAC get into the playoffs this year? Or will they beat each other up and have only one get in, like last year?
You can't put much stock in first round playoff wins in the East.  There are a lot of MIAC and WIAC teams that would have been favored to beat Framingham or Gallaudet.  We all saw St. John Fisher get exposed against teams like Mary Hardin Baylor and St. Thomas.

02 Warhawk

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Then is it fair to say that John Carroll (and the strength of the OAC) was a little exposed last season in the playoffs by SJF? As well as the year before that when Heidelberg lost in the first round to Wittenberg. Both of which were first-round home games for the OAC.

AO

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on August 26, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Then is it fair to say that John Carroll (and the strength of the OAC) was a little exposed last season in the playoffs by SJF? As well as the year before that when Heidelberg lost in the first round to Wittenberg. Both of which were first-round home games for the OAC.
I mean really, when's the last time anyone from the OAC was any good?