FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[SJUrube]

If hanging a big number on the Carls was designed to impress the committee it's become clear the UST football team is a fan of Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer.

The main culprit though is the MIAC travel roster size. I know in non conference games the MIAC limit isn't placed on teams & in WIAC crossover games teams have taken larger rosters. It would be interesting to know who prefers the travel limits - the haves who would need additional budget for travel, etc - or the have nots who although the scores might not get as out of hand could also lose some kids to the haves as they'd potentially have additional games to play.

[tmerton]

Hi, tmerton, it's good to see a post from you.  I hope you're having a good time with the son.

He had two TD receptions and probably should have had a third but the ref called it out at the one. Not bad for a former linebacker. His mother would have been proud. If they win the next game they go to the semifinals.

[faunch]

Wowzer, U$T beat up on Carleton 83-7.

Talk about letting out some frustration.

I wonder how long the starters played given that a huge, eye-catching thrashing of underpowered competition is about the only chance UST has for post season action...

Exactly what I was wondering...

Being on the road & having the diminished numbers that make up a travel squad may give the Tommies cover on this. I would be interested (not so interested that I would actually look at the box score) to see if after being up by 21 did the Toms throw the ball?

I took a look at the box. Hard to say anything too untoward. The backups did throw a few passes but I can live with that. It was 49-0 by halftime and it looks like backups played the entire second half (at least on offense).

Backup quarterbacks threw 13 times, completed 7, one of which was for a 37-yard touchdown.
I'm not thinking that's real out-of-line.

Another option is watching the archived video. 
http://portal.stretchinternet.com/carleton/

[2115 Summit]

Wowzer, U$T beat up on Carleton 83-7.

Talk about letting out some frustration.

I wonder how long the starters played given that a huge, eye-catching thrashing of underpowered competition is about the only chance UST has for post season action...

Exactly what I was wondering...

Being on the road & having the diminished numbers that make up a travel squad may give the Tommies cover on this. I would be interested (not so interested that I would actually look at the box score) to see if after being up by 21 did the Toms throw the ball?

I took a look at the box. Hard to say anything too untoward. The backups did throw a few passes but I can live with that. It was 49-0 by halftime and it looks like backups played the entire second half (at least on offense).

Backup quarterbacks threw 13 times, completed 7, one of which was for a 37-yard touchdown.
I'm not thinking that's real out-of-line.

Another option is watching the archived video. 
http://portal.stretchinternet.com/carleton/

Missed all of yesterday's football action do to a wonderful trip the wife planned to St. Paul for my first Summit Brewery Tour. It was definitely fun, the beer was great, and enjoyed too much of the food truck.

I did see a little of the game with the link above, and my thoughts are, I've never been someone that likes to see a team get beaten this badly.  However, i'm also not a fan of seeing teams that are clearly outmatched continue to throw the ball attempting to score on another teams second and third string with their first team still in that late in the game. Why not just put your second string in also and see who would have the better JV squad?

Also, I think i forgot to mention - Congrats to the Johnnies on winning the MIAC. You clearly have the best squad this year.

Now to playoff's, Should the NCAA committee be hoping for a UST win this Saturday? Think of how competitive they (NCAA) could make the playoffs this year with all flights payed for.  Just match UST vs. SJ1 - 16,500 fans, x $7.00/person attending = $115,500 to the NCAA for money to spend on a D3 football playoff?

There you have it - Problem solved! 

[This should go without saying, but obviously this is a what-if scenario. I in no way guarantee at UST win this Saturday against the Gusties, or an SJ1 win over STO, or a Bethel loss to AUG, or even the NCAA Committee overlooking CON.  I do not have classified information as to what the NCAA is hoping for.  These views are desperate hopes for a team that I would like to see play more than 10 games this year.]

Go Tommies!

[Capn34]

Beyond surprised by what happened in Collegeville today.  Defense is obviously the real deal and the running game might be one of the best in country. 
Gary, Jimmy, Novak/Haugan, and Dumonceaux have put together something really special in less than two years.  I will go on record saying that Jimmy Gagliardi deserves a ton of credit for the success of the Jays this year.  Offense is averaging over 31 points a game compared to 19 last year.  And to hold Bethel to 8 points...Wow!!!  Really wish I could have been there today but needed to watch my brother coach and nephew play a 9-man quarterfinal today.

Count me as one who was glad when Jimmy was relegated to video last year, because we heard stories (second hand) that he wasn't well like by the players.  But obviously he is a good o-coordinator for this team.  He oversaw the glory days of the late 1990's and 2000's and maybe the year off made him a better people person as well. 

[Capn34]

Wowzer, U$T beat up on Carleton 83-7.

Talk about letting out some frustration.

I wonder how long the starters played given that a huge, eye-catching thrashing of underpowered competition is about the only chance UST has for post season action...

Exactly what I was wondering...

Being on the road & having the diminished numbers that make up a travel squad may give the Tommies cover on this. I would be interested (not so interested that I would actually look at the box score) to see if after being up by 21 did the Toms throw the ball?

I took a look at the box. Hard to say anything too untoward. The backups did throw a few passes but I can live with that. It was 49-0 by halftime and it looks like backups played the entire second half (at least on offense).

Backup quarterbacks threw 13 times, completed 7, one of which was for a 37-yard touchdown.
I'm not thinking that's real out-of-line.

Another option is watching the archived video. 
http://portal.stretchinternet.com/carleton/

Missed all of yesterday's football action do to a wonderful trip the wife planned to St. Paul for my first Summit Brewery Tour. It was definitely fun, the beer was great, and enjoyed too much of the food truck.

I did see a little of the game with the link above, and my thoughts are, I've never been someone that likes to see a team get beaten this badly.  However, i'm also not a fan of seeing teams that are clearly outmatched continue to throw the ball attempting to score on another teams second and third string with their first team still in that late in the game. Why not just put your second string in also and see who would have the better JV squad?

Also, I think i forgot to mention - Congrats to the Johnnies on winning the MIAC. You clearly have the best squad this year.

Now to playoff's, Should the NCAA committee be hoping for a UST win this Saturday? Think of how competitive they (NCAA) could make the playoffs this year with all flights payed for.  Just match UST vs. SJ1 - 16,500 fans, x $7.00/person attending = $115,500 to the NCAA for money to spend on a D3 football playoff?

There you have it - Problem solved! 

[This should go without saying, but obviously this is a what-if scenario. I in no way guarantee at UST win this Saturday against the Gusties, or an SJ1 win over STO, or a Bethel loss to AUG, or even the NCAA Committee overlooking CON.  I do not have classified information as to what the NCAA is hoping for.  These views are desperate hopes for a team that I would like to see play more than 10 games this year.]

Go Tommies!

No chance Tommies jump Bethel.  You can't lose to SJU and Bethel and jump them into the playoffs. 

[RoyalsFan]

Not that it would have changed the outcome of the game, and maybe I don't know a rule exactly like I think I do, but on at least two occasions when Peterson on a keeper ran out of bounds the clock kept running. There were a large number of us in the stands that were wondering what was going on. Any one want to comment with clarification?

I was a bit surprised by the lack of understanding of this rule by the fans yesterday (I even had to explain it to my brother  ), as it was changed way back in 2007. The rule states that the clock will stop on a out of bounds play but then start again on the referee's signal (usually when the ball is set for the next snap), except in the last 2 minutes of each half when the clock is started when the ball in snapped. This rule was changed to help speed up the game. Note that this is also the way the NFL handles the clock on out of bounds plays.

[art76]

Not that it would have changed the outcome of the game, and maybe I don't know a rule exactly like I think I do, but on at least two occasions when Peterson on a keeper ran out of bounds the clock kept running. There were a large number of us in the stands that were wondering what was going on. Any one want to comment with clarification?

I was a bit surprised by the lack of understanding of this rule by the fans yesterday (I even had to explain it to my brother  ), as it was changed way back in 2007. The rule states that the clock will stop on a out of bounds play but then start again on the referee's signal (usually when the ball is set for the next snap), except in the last 2 minutes of each half when the clock is started when the ball in snapped. This rule was changed to help speed up the game. Note that this is also the way the NFL handles the clock on out of bounds plays.

My memory is lousy, but I am pretty sure neither of the two times I am recollecting were in the final two minutes of either half. And the only way to verify what actually happened and why would be to watch the unedited end zone video with the clock in the background - video that I am not sure is available to anyone outside those on a need to know basis.

[Pat Coleman]

Now to playoff's, Should the NCAA committee be hoping for a UST win this Saturday? Think of how competitive they (NCAA) could make the playoffs this year with all flights payed for.  Just match UST vs. SJ1 - 16,500 fans, x $7.00/person attending = $115,500 to the NCAA for money to spend on a D3 football playoff?

There's no way 16,500 fans show up for a playoff game. It doesn't happen. Take a look at past Novembers across the country.

[RoyalsFan]

Not that it would have changed the outcome of the game, and maybe I don't know a rule exactly like I think I do, but on at least two occasions when Peterson on a keeper ran out of bounds the clock kept running. There were a large number of us in the stands that were wondering what was going on. Any one want to comment with clarification?

I was a bit surprised by the lack of understanding of this rule by the fans yesterday (I even had to explain it to my brother  ), as it was changed way back in 2007. The rule states that the clock will stop on a out of bounds play but then start again on the referee's signal (usually when the ball is set for the next snap), except in the last 2 minutes of each half when the clock is started when the ball in snapped. This rule was changed to help speed up the game. Note that this is also the way the NFL handles the clock on out of bounds plays.

My memory is lousy, but I am pretty sure neither of the two times I am recollecting were in the final two minutes of either half. And the only way to verify what actually happened and why would be to watch the unedited end zone video with the clock in the background - video that I am not sure is available to anyone outside those on a need to know basis.

You are correct, both of those instances occurred with more than 2 minutes left. The first one was at around 6:50 as I looked at the clock when explaining the rule to my brother and I said I wasn't sure if the clock was only stopped until the next snap in the final 5 minutes or 2 minutes. The next time it happened there were about 3 minutes left at which time I mentioned that the rule must only be in the final 2 minutes as they started the clock on the whistle. They never had an out of bounds play in the final 2 minutes as they turned the ball over with about 1:45 left in the game and never got it back.

[RoyalsFan]

Now to playoff's, Should the NCAA committee be hoping for a UST win this Saturday? Think of how competitive they (NCAA) could make the playoffs this year with all flights payed for.  Just match UST vs. SJ1 - 16,500 fans, x $7.00/person attending = $115,500 to the NCAA for money to spend on a D3 football playoff?

There's no way 16,500 fans show up for a playoff game. It doesn't happen. Take a look at past Novembers across the country.

Maybe it's never happened because SJU and UST have not met in a playoff? The  attendance for the regular season game between those 2 teams in 2011 was 16,421 so I'm not sure why you would say 16,500 isn't possible.

[AO]

Now to playoff's, Should the NCAA committee be hoping for a UST win this Saturday? Think of how competitive they (NCAA) could make the playoffs this year with all flights payed for.  Just match UST vs. SJ1 - 16,500 fans, x $7.00/person attending = $115,500 to the NCAA for money to spend on a D3 football playoff?

There's no way 16,500 fans show up for a playoff game. It doesn't happen. Take a look at past Novembers across the country.

Maybe it's never happened because SJU and UST have not met in a playoff? The  attendance for the regular season game between those 2 teams in 2011 was 16,421 so I'm not sure why you would say 16,500 isn't possible.

Winter.  and maybe students on break due to Thanksgiving, etc.

[Pat Coleman]

Really, the examples of this abound basically every year. Check out attendance for UWW home games in the regular season and postseason. Same for Hampden-Sydney last year, and they are often in the top five in attendance. 1885 for their playoff home game.

There's a huge difference in fan turnout once the NCAA starts controlling the gate.

[RoyalsFan]

I'm not saying that it would likely happen, just saying that it's not impossible. Maybe under ideal circumstances like an early round game on a beautiful day with above average temps that it could be possible between those 2 teams. Never say never. 

[OzJohnnie]

Neverrrrrrrrr!!!.....