FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[AO]

Why are we only talking about Mount Union?  They lost 52-14 last year.  I'd at least like to wait and see if they're as competitive against Whitewater as the rest of the West is.  There's no doubt they have scholarship level talent, all the elite D3 teams do.

[DuffMan]

Any truth to the rumor that St. Glenn is throwing his halo in the ring for the UWW job?

[OzJohnnie]

I'm surprised at how many points the Swans have given up. Only once in the last 12 games have a team scored 70 and the Hawks did it in just a half. They will remember how the Hawks nearly blew a comfortable lead last week to Port. Think it has to be within 4 goals headed to the 4th to have a chance.

On this post from the past, The Family Oz was having a BBQ at a friend's house on Wednesday night and one of the dad's nephews had won a kick-to-kick session a month ago with Sam Mitchell, key Hawthorn player and former captain. They asked how it was that the Hawks almost blew the Preliminary Final against Port Adelaide and Mitchell said it was because the Hawks had a commanding lead at three quarter time and guys started playing to not get hurt (and miss the Grand Final). It wasn't until the game got close again that Hawks started throwing themselves at the contest again.

Taking the foot off the gas is never a good thing.

[OzJohnnie]

Any truth to the rumor that St. Glenn is throwing his halo in the ring for the UWW job?

Must be truth. In all seriousness, you would expect it. 90% of coaches would have to be focused on career advancement and this is a step up for SG. And if you think about it, there are probably only a handful of DIII coaches that are even qualified to apply. His odds can't be too bad for consideration.

I wonder how his philosophy aligns with UWW's culture?

[OzJohnnie]

Man, the Johnnies have to make the Stagg again.  UMU v UWW is on ESPN HD again this year.  Not live like last year, but still on.

[sjusection105]

raider guy good to hear from you again my friend. You'll be please to know my wife used your famous Jello shots from the Stiftungfestivities as inspiration and started bringing pudding shots to the tailgate party!

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you my friend!

[OldAuggie]

Any truth to the rumor that St. Glenn is throwing his halo in the ring for the UWW job?

A business associate of mine saw a gentleman that looked a lot like Glenn Caruso in the Waukesha Airport recently.

[sjusection105]

Any truth to the rumor that St. Glenn is throwing his halo in the ring for the UWW job?

Well, if there is we all know what Gary's winning percentage is against him. I like the Johnnie's chances to make it to the Stagg in 2015 

[OzJohnnie]

Any truth to the rumor that St. Glenn is throwing his halo in the ring for the UWW job?

A business associate of mine saw a gentleman that looked a lot like Glenn Caruso in the Waukesha Airport recently.

A little birdie (I won't say who but may be the same gentlemen you spoke to, OldAuggie) sent me this just snapped photo.  It looks like the rumors are true.

[Craft_Beermeister]

I've heard the argument that Mount Union gets D1 talent to play for them, but I've never bothered to research it.

How many guys on their roster are D1 transfers?

Just because they don't have any D1 transfers doesn't mean they don't have D1 talent players. Just looking at recent history there have been about a half dozen players from Mount Union that have played in the NFL (or at least have been on a roster at one point). If you are good enough to get drafted by the NFL I would say qualifies as D1 talent.

D1 recruits are kids with D1 size/talent coming out of high school.   Not after playing 4 years of college football.   

Most of the D3 players that people identify as being a "D1 talent" grew into that during college.

I suppose it also depends on your definition of talent. To me, either you have the talent or you don't, you don't really grow into talent (size yes, talent, no - there again depends on your definition of talent). I think that coaches can refine talent but kids don't necessarily grow into talent. I guess I didn't really consider the question to be just about getting D1 recruits - but rather about D1 talent playing for them at some point in their career. So if a player eventually is considered D1 talent and he doesn't transfer to a D1 school, he is still playing for them with D1 talent, right?

To my knowledge Mount does not have any D1 transfers on the roster. I could be wrong - I have been before. As far as the past goes - I can not think of 1 of the Mount "greats" that was a D1 transfer. And depending on your definition of "great" Antoine Dillard is the only strong D1 recruit in the group (he was recruited by Texas). Some of the greats that come to mind: Kevin Burke, Ballard, Borchert, Bubonics, Kmic, Moore, Pugh, Garcon, Shorts, Collins, Driskell, Jason Hall, Russ Kring, Larry Kinnard, Kevin Knestrick, Gary Smeck, Adam Marino, Matt Campbell, Chris Kern, Jason Lewis, Larry Kinnard, Adam Irgang, Matt Fechko - good lord too many. Any way - none of them were D1 transfers. I don't even think they were recruited (except for Dillard).
The only name that comes to mind with getting alot of D1 transfers to their program WAS KC Keeler  at Rowan.

Some years back when Rowan would give Mount Union a run for their money Rowan annually had over 10 and maybe as much 20 plus D1 players on there team. 

[bman]

I've heard the argument that Mount Union gets D1 talent to play for them, but I've never bothered to research it.

How many guys on their roster are D1 transfers?

Just because they don't have any D1 transfers doesn't mean they don't have D1 talent players. Just looking at recent history there have been about a half dozen players from Mount Union that have played in the NFL (or at least have been on a roster at one point). If you are good enough to get drafted by the NFL I would say qualifies as D1 talent.

D1 recruits are kids with D1 size/talent coming out of high school.   Not after playing 4 years of college football.   

Most of the D3 players that people identify as being a "D1 talent" grew into that during college.

I suppose it also depends on your definition of talent. To me, either you have the talent or you don't, you don't really grow into talent (size yes, talent, no - there again depends on your definition of talent). I think that coaches can refine talent but kids don't necessarily grow into talent. I guess I didn't really consider the question to be just about getting D1 recruits - but rather about D1 talent playing for them at some point in their career. So if a player eventually is considered D1 talent and he doesn't transfer to a D1 school, he is still playing for them with D1 talent, right?

To my knowledge Mount does not have any D1 transfers on the roster. I could be wrong - I have been before. As far as the past goes - I can not think of 1 of the Mount "greats" that was a D1 transfer. And depending on your definition of "great" Antoine Dillard is the only strong D1 recruit in the group (he was recruited by Texas). Some of the greats that come to mind: Kevin Burke, Ballard, Borchert, Bubonics, Kmic, Moore, Pugh, Garcon, Shorts, Collins, Driskell, Jason Hall, Russ Kring, Larry Kinnard, Kevin Knestrick, Gary Smeck, Adam Marino, Matt Campbell, Chris Kern, Jason Lewis, Larry Kinnard, Adam Irgang, Matt Fechko - good lord too many. Any way - none of them were D1 transfers. I don't even think they were recruited (except for Dillard).
The only name that comes to mind with getting alot of D1 transfers to their program WAS KC Keeler  at Rowan.

Some years back when Rowan would give Mount Union a run for their money Rowan annually had over 10 and maybe as much 20 plus D1 players on there team.
I recall 4.  Please elaborate...

[Desertraider]

Allow me to elaborate:

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960915&slug=2349273

This is a 1996 article citing that Rowan had 19 D1 transfers on the squad and 47 transfers from all levels (DII, DIII, and JUCO). And an interesting quote from the article:
"Nobody else in the top ranks of Division III football uses transfers as Rowan does. The Profs are ranked second in the nation in the Sports Illustrated college football preview. The nine other schools in the top 10 report a total of 10 Division I transfers. None has more than three."

[OzJohnnie]

19 < 20.  Fabulist.

[repete]

My favorite phrase of the 1996 article, which was originally in the Philly Inquirer:

Although they haven't won a national title yet, . . .

[Boys of Fall]

I don't mind it if a "D1 talent" kid goes and plays for a D3 school either for playing time or academic reasons, as long as all entrance requirements of the school and the NCAA are met.  Just because a kid is bigger or faster (thus the "D1 talent") shouldn't preclude him from playing D3 football, this isn't youth football with the black stripes.  What I don't like is if a kid transfers in from a D1 program (or D2 for that matter) and maintains his remaining eligibility even if he red-shirted at his earlier program.  D3 doesn't red-shirt kids, and that extra year can give a kid an advantage that most D3 kids don't have.  If a D1/D2 kid transfers to a D3 program I would count the red-shirt year as a year of eligibility used.