FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[bennie]

Something I don't like about D3 kids taking part in signing day is that many D3 kids don't even know if they'll be able to attend the D3 they want because aid packages aren't provided until April.  Yeah, schools can give estimates but potential students don't know until they get the actual numbers.  So while there are some D3'ers that participate on singing day I think many D3 kids get excluded until they know about financial aid.

That might be about to change. Starting this year, the 17-18 FAFSA will be available October 1st (instead of the following Jan 1st) which may accelerate the process (it will depend on the institution).  This is a major change and it is hard to know how the timeline change will play out.

[OldAuggie]

Something I don't like about D3 kids taking part in signing day is that many D3 kids don't even know if they'll be able to attend the D3 they want because aid packages aren't provided until April.  Yeah, schools can give estimates but potential students don't know until they get the actual numbers.  So while there are some D3'ers that participate on singing day I think many D3 kids get excluded until they know about financial aid.

That might be about to change. Starting this year, the 17-18 FAFSA will be available October 1st (instead of the following Jan 1st) which may accelerate the process (it will depend on the institution).  This is a major change and it is hard to know how the timeline change will play out.

That is interesting but we still need our tax return complete to send in the FAFSA as of last year. Will that change? One daughter at the U now and  I will have two in college starting 18/19. 

The daughter at the U of M is on a partial scholarship, but I still need to finance the rest. Things ($) will get real when her sister starts college. 

[bennie]

Something I don't like about D3 kids taking part in signing day is that many D3 kids don't even know if they'll be able to attend the D3 they want because aid packages aren't provided until April.  Yeah, schools can give estimates but potential students don't know until they get the actual numbers.  So while there are some D3'ers that participate on singing day I think many D3 kids get excluded until they know about financial aid.

That might be about to change. Starting this year, the 17-18 FAFSA will be available October 1st (instead of the following Jan 1st) which may accelerate the process (it will depend on the institution).  This is a major change and it is hard to know how the timeline change will play out.

That is interesting but we still need our tax return complete to send in the FAFSA as of last year. Will that change? One daughter at the U now and  I will have two in college starting 18/19. 

The FAFSA will be moving to what is being called (at least within the Financial Aid Community) as prior prior, meaning when you complete your 17-18 FAFSA in October, you will be using your 2015 tax information. The 18-19 FAFSA will use 2016 tax info, etc. Because of this, even with a tax extension, which is typically until October 15, you would still be able to file your FAFSA in a timely manner with actual tax information. This does mean that families will be using 2015 tax information for two different aid years. You can message me directly if this explanation doesn't make sense.

[OldAuggie]

Something I don't like about D3 kids taking part in signing day is that many D3 kids don't even know if they'll be able to attend the D3 they want because aid packages aren't provided until April.  Yeah, schools can give estimates but potential students don't know until they get the actual numbers.  So while there are some D3'ers that participate on singing day I think many D3 kids get excluded until they know about financial aid.

That might be about to change. Starting this year, the 17-18 FAFSA will be available October 1st (instead of the following Jan 1st) which may accelerate the process (it will depend on the institution).  This is a major change and it is hard to know how the timeline change will play out.

That is interesting but we still need our tax return complete to send in the FAFSA as of last year. Will that change? One daughter at the U now and  I will have two in college starting 18/19. 

The FAFSA will be moving to what is being called (at least within the Financial Aid Community) as prior prior, meaning when you complete your 17-18 FAFSA in October, you will be using your 2015 tax information. The 18-19 FAFSA will use 2016 tax info, etc. Because of this, even with a tax extension, which is typically until October 15, you would still be able to file your FAFSA in a timely manner with actual tax information. This does mean that families will be using 2015 tax information for two different aid years. You can message me directly if this explanation doesn't make sense.

Got it thanks! I probably will need to ask a few questions down the road!

[bennie]

Something I don't like about D3 kids taking part in signing day is that many D3 kids don't even know if they'll be able to attend the D3 they want because aid packages aren't provided until April.  Yeah, schools can give estimates but potential students don't know until they get the actual numbers.  So while there are some D3'ers that participate on singing day I think many D3 kids get excluded until they know about financial aid.

That might be about to change. Starting this year, the 17-18 FAFSA will be available October 1st (instead of the following Jan 1st) which may accelerate the process (it will depend on the institution).  This is a major change and it is hard to know how the timeline change will play out.

That is interesting but we still need our tax return complete to send in the FAFSA as of last year. Will that change? One daughter at the U now and  I will have two in college starting 18/19. 

The FAFSA will be moving to what is being called (at least within the Financial Aid Community) as prior prior, meaning when you complete your 17-18 FAFSA in October, you will be using your 2015 tax information. The 18-19 FAFSA will use 2016 tax info, etc. Because of this, even with a tax extension, which is typically until October 15, you would still be able to file your FAFSA in a timely manner with actual tax information. This does mean that families will be using 2015 tax information for two different aid years. You can message me directly if this explanation doesn't make sense.

Got it thanks! I probably will need to ask a few questions down the road!

In payment for this information, you will be expected to cheer for the Johnnies (except when they are playing the Auggies, of course). 

[art76]

Something I don't like about D3 kids taking part in signing day is that many D3 kids don't even know if they'll be able to attend the D3 they want because aid packages aren't provided until April.  Yeah, schools can give estimates but potential students don't know until they get the actual numbers.  So while there are some D3'ers that participate on singing day I think many D3 kids get excluded until they know about financial aid.

That might be about to change. Starting this year, the 17-18 FAFSA will be available October 1st (instead of the following Jan 1st) which may accelerate the process (it will depend on the institution).  This is a major change and it is hard to know how the timeline change will play out.

That is interesting but we still need our tax return complete to send in the FAFSA as of last year. Will that change? One daughter at the U now and  I will have two in college starting 18/19. 

The FAFSA will be moving to what is being called (at least within the Financial Aid Community) as prior prior, meaning when you complete your 17-18 FAFSA in October, you will be using your 2015 tax information. The 18-19 FAFSA will use 2016 tax info, etc. Because of this, even with a tax extension, which is typically until October 15, you would still be able to file your FAFSA in a timely manner with actual tax information. This does mean that families will be using 2015 tax information for two different aid years. You can message me directly if this explanation doesn't make sense.

Looks like I dodged a bullet, as my youngest graduates this spring.

[badgerwarhawk]

National signing day at D3. Oh brother. http://www.kare11.com/entertainment/television/programs/breaking-the-news/diii-bound-athletes-should-have-signing-day-but-not-all-get-it/32652692

Hmm...kind of a douche move to leave the DIII kids out, but at the same time, (and understandably as she is probably only 17/18 years old) not worth getting all bent out of shape about it, you're playing DIII because sports are fun, not to finance your education (like a lot of D1 and D2 kids). Granted, a lot (most) of D1 and D2 kids under scholarship are enjoying themselves, but a lot have no choice, play this sport or no education for you.

The only kids getting full rides are the D1 kids in football, men's and women's basketball, women's volleyball, women's tennis and women's gymnastics.  Everybody else in D1 and everyone in D2 gets partial scholarships and most will have to have to finance their way through college.  In many cases they might have been able to find D3 schools they could have gone to more cheaply.  Drawing the line at D3 probably perpetuates the myths of all scholarships being equal, as if a volleyball scholarship to the U is any anyway equal to a track scholarship to Winona State.  We might have fewer crazy sports parents if they knew how few full scholarships were available.

Women hockey athletes at Wisconsin are getting full rides and I know a couple of track athletes (men & women) that also are getting full rides.   Also, though I don't know for a fact, I'd be pretty surprised to learn that men and women soccer athletes at Wisconsin aren't getting them as well.   

[hazzben]

The only kids getting full rides are the D1 kids in football, men's and women's basketball, women's volleyball, women's tennis and women's gymnastics.  Everybody else in D1 and everyone in D2 gets partial scholarships and most will have to have to finance their way through college.  In many cases they might have been able to find D3 schools they could have gone to more cheaply.  Drawing the line at D3 probably perpetuates the myths of all scholarships being equal, as if a volleyball scholarship to the U is any anyway equal to a track scholarship to Winona State.  We might have fewer crazy sports parents if they knew how few full scholarships were available.

Generally true, but not an absolute. I know of several athletes who've gotten full offers for a sport in D2. It's definitely not the norm, but if there's a kid who's an outlier, it's far from unheard of for a D2 school to offer the full thing to land someone. Sometimes that full scholarship is for someone who's going to do football and track/baseball as a combo. The coaches each take half the offer.

But yeah, most D2 kids are probably getting around 1/3 of their education covered by an athletic scholarship.

[Robert Zimmerman]

If you are tired of reading sfury's posts here, you can read him instead in the Wall Street Journal today . . .


http://www.wsj.com/articles/basketballs-jump-shot-revolution-1454687382

[art76]

If you are tired of reading sfury's posts here, you can read him instead in the Wall Street Journal today . . .


http://www.wsj.com/articles/basketballs-jump-shot-revolution-1454687382

Nice!

[OzJohnnie]

If you are tired of reading sfury's posts here, you can read him instead in the Wall Street Journal today . . .


http://www.wsj.com/articles/basketballs-jump-shot-revolution-1454687382

Congrats!  The big time.

[OzJohnnie]

A movie that's full of off-center humour: What We Do In The Shadows.  It's a mocumentary that follows a few vampires stuck in Aukland, New Zealand. There are quite a few funny insights on vampires adjusting to a modern world - their first view of a sunrise on YouTube, for example. Anyway, it tickles my funny bone. Some highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HACXYXyzfH8

[AO]

National signing day at D3. Oh brother. http://www.kare11.com/entertainment/television/programs/breaking-the-news/diii-bound-athletes-should-have-signing-day-but-not-all-get-it/32652692

Hmm...kind of a douche move to leave the DIII kids out, but at the same time, (and understandably as she is probably only 17/18 years old) not worth getting all bent out of shape about it, you're playing DIII because sports are fun, not to finance your education (like a lot of D1 and D2 kids). Granted, a lot (most) of D1 and D2 kids under scholarship are enjoying themselves, but a lot have no choice, play this sport or no education for you.

The only kids getting full rides are the D1 kids in football, men's and women's basketball, women's volleyball, women's tennis and women's gymnastics.  Everybody else in D1 and everyone in D2 gets partial scholarships and most will have to have to finance their way through college.  In many cases they might have been able to find D3 schools they could have gone to more cheaply.  Drawing the line at D3 probably perpetuates the myths of all scholarships being equal, as if a volleyball scholarship to the U is any anyway equal to a track scholarship to Winona State.  We might have fewer crazy sports parents if they knew how few full scholarships were available.

Women hockey athletes at Wisconsin are getting full rides and I know a couple of track athletes (men & women) that also are getting full rides.   Also, though I don't know for a fact, I'd be pretty surprised to learn that men and women soccer athletes at Wisconsin aren't getting them as well.   

I shouldn't have said "everyone", maybe 5% get full rides in the "non-counter" sports.   Hockey teams split a maximum of 18 scholarships between 30 players.  Women's soccer splits 12 scholarships between 25-30 players.  Men's soccer only has 9 scholarships to split.  I'm unaware of any team that does not split any scholarships in these two sports.  If the Badgers wanted to give full scholarships to 8 women's soccer players they'd have to split the remaining 4 scholarships among 19 players.  I doubt you'd have a lot of happy players doing that for very long.

[Mr.MIAC]

A movie that's full of off-center humour: What We Do In The Shadows.  It's a mocumentary that follows a few vampires stuck in Aukland, New Zealand. There are quite a few funny insights on vampires adjusting to a modern world - their first view of a sunrise on YouTube, for example. Anyway, it tickles my funny bone. Some highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HACXYXyzfH8

It's currently available to stream for free on HBO Now if you have a subscription.

[OzJohnnie]

For those of you interested in the AFL mystique, I came across a phenomenal hour long documentary on the '89 Grand Final between the Hawthorn and Geelong.  It's universally recognised as the greatest Grand Final ever played, and the last and most brutal of the old-time hockey type games.  Over 20 years later it's plainly visible that the emotion of the day still runs raw with the men that literally fought on the field that day.

Eddie Shore would not approve.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfa3mj0mfZE