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sowilson

Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.  From the academic and social side what maters is the student's comfort level (academic rigor included) with the school and can they see themselves there for 4 years, even if they aren't playing football.  From the football side it mainly boils down to playing time, how you're treated, and how the coaches vision jives with the athletes vision (are you on the same page).  Really simple things tell a lot.  For example, when your student/athlete enters a room full of other athletes, coaches, and parents how do the coaches respond? How much love do they show?  I told my son that you probably won't make a bad decision if you go with who loves you the most.  The nice thing about the MIAC is that all of the schools are good so it's not a question about the quality of the education.  So, the decision boils down to comfort level and finding a place where you feel you truly belong at.

As for St. Thomas, my son and I know a few of their players and a number of their coaches.  My son has interacted with members of the athletics department since he's been a 5th grader.  Unfortunately, the area recruiter wasn't very responsive and the financial package put forward by the school wasn't very competitive.  Another issue that St. Johns and St. Thomas share are large rosters.  I personally feel that as the roster extends past 130 players that the playing experience for the athletes degrades.  I felt that 85-130 is a good size for a college football team and ensures decent contact time between players and coaches, and players and strength and conditioning staff.  Having said that, everyone has a different comfort level and I won't disparage the choices other athletes and their parents make.  It is a nice ego boost to a HS player to have both Mt. Union, UST, and St. Johns recruit you.

Mr.MIAC

Quote from: sowilson on June 21, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.  From the academic and social side what maters is the student's comfort level (academic rigor included) with the school and can they see themselves there for 4 years, even if they aren't playing football.  From the football side it mainly boils down to playing time, how you're treated, and how the coaches vision jives with the athletes vision (are you on the same page).  Really simple things tell a lot.  For example, when your student/athlete enters a room full of other athletes, coaches, and parents how do the coaches respond? How much love do they show?  I told my son that you probably won't make a bad decision if you go with who loves you the most.  The nice thing about the MIAC is that all of the schools are good so it's not a question about the quality of the education.  So, the decision boils down to comfort level and finding a place where you feel you truly belong at.

As for St. Thomas, my son and I know a few of their players and a number of their coaches.  My son has interacted with members of the athletics department since he's been a 5th grader.  Unfortunately, the area recruiter wasn't very responsive and the financial package put forward by the school wasn't very competitive.  Another issue that St. Johns and St. Thomas share are large rosters.  I personally feel that as the roster extends past 130 players that the playing experience for the athletes degrades.  I felt that 85-130 is a good size for a college football team and ensures decent contact time between players and coaches, and players and strength and conditioning staff.  Having said that, everyone has a different comfort level and I won't disparage the choices other athletes and their parents make.  It is a nice ego boost to a HS player to have both Mt. Union, UST, and St. Johns recruit you.

+K. Your son must be very talented. It's too bad the UST recruiter wasn't responsive and the aid package was less than stellar. Money is always a major concern. UST's program has grown dramatically and now that there's a larger pool of prospectives, maybe the recruiting staff needs to expand in order to provide more personalized service.

I think he made the right choice in going with Gustavus over SJU. The academics are comparable, the football programs are similarly competitive, and both are located in quaint rural towns. However, with Gustavus you have little niceties like indoor plumbing, horseless carriages, and members of the opposite sex. 

OzJohnnie

Quote from: sowilson on June 21, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.

Ha!  You'll fit in just fine here, sowilson.

Good luck to your boy.
  


faunch

#77914
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: sowilson on June 21, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.  From the academic and social side what maters is the student's comfort level (academic rigor included) with the school and can they see themselves there for 4 years, even if they aren't playing football.  From the football side it mainly boils down to playing time, how you're treated, and how the coaches vision jives with the athletes vision (are you on the same page).  Really simple things tell a lot.  For example, when your student/athlete enters a room full of other athletes, coaches, and parents how do the coaches respond? How much love do they show?  I told my son that you probably won't make a bad decision if you go with who loves you the most.  The nice thing about the MIAC is that all of the schools are good so it's not a question about the quality of the education.  So, the decision boils down to comfort level and finding a place where you feel you truly belong at.

As for St. Thomas, my son and I know a few of their players and a number of their coaches.  My son has interacted with members of the athletics department since he's been a 5th grader.  Unfortunately, the area recruiter wasn't very responsive and the financial package put forward by the school wasn't very competitive.  Another issue that St. Johns and St. Thomas share are large rosters.  I personally feel that as the roster extends past 130 players that the playing experience for the athletes degrades.  I felt that 85-130 is a good size for a college football team and ensures decent contact time between players and coaches, and players and strength and conditioning staff.  Having said that, everyone has a different comfort level and I won't disparage the choices other athletes and their parents make.  It is a nice ego boost to a HS player to have both Mt. Union, UST, and St. Johns recruit you.

+K. Your son must be very talented. It's too bad the UST recruiter wasn't responsive and the aid package was less than stellar. Money is always a major concern. UST's program has grown dramatically and now that there's a larger pool of prospectives, maybe the recruiting staff needs to expand in order to provide more personalized service.

I think he made the right choice in going with Gustavus over SJU. The academics are comparable, the football programs are similarly competitive, and both are located in quaint rural towns. However, with Gustavus you have little niceties like indoor plumbing, horseless carriages, and members of the opposite sex.

I toured both U$T and CSB/SJU with my daughter this week.  U$T spent the first hour or so of the visit showing off shiny new things and then took us through what my daughter thought was a pretty crappy dorm room.  It's great that when the MOA is closed the Anderson Center is available to provide U$T students with a shopping mall experience.


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

Mr.MIAC

Quote from: faunch on June 21, 2016, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: sowilson on June 21, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.  From the academic and social side what maters is the student's comfort level (academic rigor included) with the school and can they see themselves there for 4 years, even if they aren't playing football.  From the football side it mainly boils down to playing time, how you're treated, and how the coaches vision jives with the athletes vision (are you on the same page).  Really simple things tell a lot.  For example, when your student/athlete enters a room full of other athletes, coaches, and parents how do the coaches respond? How much love do they show?  I told my son that you probably won't make a bad decision if you go with who loves you the most.  The nice thing about the MIAC is that all of the schools are good so it's not a question about the quality of the education.  So, the decision boils down to comfort level and finding a place where you feel you truly belong at.

As for St. Thomas, my son and I know a few of their players and a number of their coaches.  My son has interacted with members of the athletics department since he's been a 5th grader.  Unfortunately, the area recruiter wasn't very responsive and the financial package put forward by the school wasn't very competitive.  Another issue that St. Johns and St. Thomas share are large rosters.  I personally feel that as the roster extends past 130 players that the playing experience for the athletes degrades.  I felt that 85-130 is a good size for a college football team and ensures decent contact time between players and coaches, and players and strength and conditioning staff.  Having said that, everyone has a different comfort level and I won't disparage the choices other athletes and their parents make.  It is a nice ego boost to a HS player to have both Mt. Union, UST, and St. Johns recruit you.

+K. Your son must be very talented. It's too bad the UST recruiter wasn't responsive and the aid package was less than stellar. Money is always a major concern. UST's program has grown dramatically and now that there's a larger pool of prospectives, maybe the recruiting staff needs to expand in order to provide more personalized service.

I think he made the right choice in going with Gustavus over SJU. The academics are comparable, the football programs are similarly competitive, and both are located in quaint rural towns. However, with Gustavus you have little niceties like indoor plumbing, horseless carriages, and members of the opposite sex.

I toured both U$T and CSB/SJU with my daughter this week.  U$T spent the first hour or so of the visit showing off shiny new things and then took us through what my daughter thought was a pretty crappy dorm room.  It's great that when the MOA is closed the Anderson Center is available to provide U$T students with a shopping mall experience.

Tommie envy at its finest...

Mr.MIAC

#77916
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 11:48:53 PM
Quote from: faunch on June 21, 2016, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: sowilson on June 21, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.  From the academic and social side what maters is the student's comfort level (academic rigor included) with the school and can they see themselves there for 4 years, even if they aren't playing football.  From the football side it mainly boils down to playing time, how you're treated, and how the coaches vision jives with the athletes vision (are you on the same page).  Really simple things tell a lot.  For example, when your student/athlete enters a room full of other athletes, coaches, and parents how do the coaches respond? How much love do they show?  I told my son that you probably won't make a bad decision if you go with who loves you the most.  The nice thing about the MIAC is that all of the schools are good so it's not a question about the quality of the education.  So, the decision boils down to comfort level and finding a place where you feel you truly belong at.

As for St. Thomas, my son and I know a few of their players and a number of their coaches.  My son has interacted with members of the athletics department since he's been a 5th grader.  Unfortunately, the area recruiter wasn't very responsive and the financial package put forward by the school wasn't very competitive.  Another issue that St. Johns and St. Thomas share are large rosters.  I personally feel that as the roster extends past 130 players that the playing experience for the athletes degrades.  I felt that 85-130 is a good size for a college football team and ensures decent contact time between players and coaches, and players and strength and conditioning staff.  Having said that, everyone has a different comfort level and I won't disparage the choices other athletes and their parents make.  It is a nice ego boost to a HS player to have both Mt. Union, UST, and St. Johns recruit you.

+K. Your son must be very talented. It's too bad the UST recruiter wasn't responsive and the aid package was less than stellar. Money is always a major concern. UST's program has grown dramatically and now that there's a larger pool of prospectives, maybe the recruiting staff needs to expand in order to provide more personalized service.

I think he made the right choice in going with Gustavus over SJU. The academics are comparable, the football programs are similarly competitive, and both are located in quaint rural towns. However, with Gustavus you have little niceties like indoor plumbing, horseless carriages, and members of the opposite sex.

I toured both U$T and CSB/SJU with my daughter this week.  U$T spent the first hour or so of the visit showing off shiny new things and then took us through what my daughter thought was a pretty crappy dorm room.  It's great that when the MOA is closed the Anderson Center is available to provide U$T students with a shopping mall experience.

Tommie envy at its finest...

Actually, there probably is a demographic that prefers SJU to UST. Anyone who's really fascinated with fancy Bibles and is passionate about good bread should head up to Collegeville. For those who like job prospects and entry into top graduate programs, perhaps you should head down to the corner of Cretin and Summit. Also, UST might be a better choice if you're not all that interested in neighboring girls who express the subtle scent of a freshly manured field...

faunch

#77917
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 11:48:53 PM
Quote from: faunch on June 21, 2016, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: sowilson on June 21, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on June 21, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Did you see any handholding on campus? Did they tell you about the F.A.M.I.L.Y.?
Forget about me I love you?  Yeah, I heard it.  I sat through numerous slide show presentations from a lot of schools.  All of which is meaningless.  From the academic and social side what maters is the student's comfort level (academic rigor included) with the school and can they see themselves there for 4 years, even if they aren't playing football.  From the football side it mainly boils down to playing time, how you're treated, and how the coaches vision jives with the athletes vision (are you on the same page).  Really simple things tell a lot.  For example, when your student/athlete enters a room full of other athletes, coaches, and parents how do the coaches respond? How much love do they show?  I told my son that you probably won't make a bad decision if you go with who loves you the most.  The nice thing about the MIAC is that all of the schools are good so it's not a question about the quality of the education.  So, the decision boils down to comfort level and finding a place where you feel you truly belong at.

As for St. Thomas, my son and I know a few of their players and a number of their coaches.  My son has interacted with members of the athletics department since he's been a 5th grader.  Unfortunately, the area recruiter wasn't very responsive and the financial package put forward by the school wasn't very competitive.  Another issue that St. Johns and St. Thomas share are large rosters.  I personally feel that as the roster extends past 130 players that the playing experience for the athletes degrades.  I felt that 85-130 is a good size for a college football team and ensures decent contact time between players and coaches, and players and strength and conditioning staff.  Having said that, everyone has a different comfort level and I won't disparage the choices other athletes and their parents make.  It is a nice ego boost to a HS player to have both Mt. Union, UST, and St. Johns recruit you.

+K. Your son must be very talented. It's too bad the UST recruiter wasn't responsive and the aid package was less than stellar. Money is always a major concern. UST's program has grown dramatically and now that there's a larger pool of prospectives, maybe the recruiting staff needs to expand in order to provide more personalized service.

I think he made the right choice in going with Gustavus over SJU. The academics are comparable, the football programs are similarly competitive, and both are located in quaint rural towns. However, with Gustavus you have little niceties like indoor plumbing, horseless carriages, and members of the opposite sex.

I toured both U$T and CSB/SJU with my daughter this week.  U$T spent the first hour or so of the visit showing off shiny new things and then took us through what my daughter thought was a pretty crappy dorm room.  It's great that when the MOA is closed the Anderson Center is available to provide U$T students with a shopping mall experience.

Tommie envy at its finest...

U$T = CDH West + Wayzata East


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

OzJohnnie

This commercial for V energy drink has been making me chuckle for a couple weeks now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwt-dRSEcKs
  

OldAuggie

Quote from: faunch on June 21, 2016, 11:21:13 PM
U$T spent the first hour or so of the visit showing off shiny new things and then took us through what my daughter thought was a pretty crappy dorm room.
We visited several schools two years ago when our oldest daughter was looking at schools and yeah the dorm rooms were important to the women folk and even more important were the dorm bathrooms. I saw it every visit, the mom's would ask to see the bathroom with their daughters and if she walked out with a smile you knew the school was still on their list. A make or break moment for sure.
MIAC champions 1928, 1997

GoldandBlueBU

Old Auggie -

Were Sonnenfeld or Scott able to make any headway in playing football beyond college?

OldAuggie

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on June 22, 2016, 10:24:53 AM
Old Auggie -

Were Sonnenfeld or Scott able to make any headway in playing football beyond college?
Well I don't think the dream is over for either of them but I know Sonnenfeld is a coach at Osseo this fall. Both had their pro day and I assume both could play somewhere just not sure which level. I don't know much more than that but I will post more when I hear it.
MIAC champions 1928, 1997

hazzben

Enjoy GAC sowilson, Coach Haugen is a good man and doing some really nice things with the program. As much as we all poke each other in here, the MIAC is a great collection of schools.

One piece of advice, keep your son away from 'GAC legend' Ryan Hoag, his physicality, mental fortitude and ability to catch the pigskin will diminish exponentially the longer he's exposed to Mr. Irrelevant (though it may help his male modeling prospects)  ;) 8-)

sowilson

Quote from: hazzben on June 22, 2016, 10:54:12 AM
Enjoy GAC sowilson, Coach Haugen is a good man and doing some really nice things with the program. As much as we all poke each other in here, the MIAC is a great collection of schools.

One piece of advice, keep your son away from 'GAC legend' Ryan Hoag, his physicality, mental fortitude and ability to catch the pigskin will diminish exponentially the longer he's exposed to Mr. Irrelevant (though it may help his male modeling prospects)  ;) 8-)

He, he, he - my son the male model - don't think so.  Just keep a look out for the 6' 270lb  Freshman Nose Guard with a beard, looks Asian, with an Irish first name. He also long snaps but just loves hitting people and tossing Centers through QB's if he gets the chance.

57Johnnie

#77924
Rockies 9 home runs in the last 2 1/2 games.  :)

Now 10 :D
The older the violin - the sweeter the music!