FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sjusection105]

@ 105;

Yes, embarrassingly, I had forgotten that UST had snuck in a second D1 QB just after a three article blitz in the Star Trib about Perra.  One of them will be playing at BU before long.

Gunga, gunga galunga.

Ha!  We'll see about that...

Tom Thumb is right, but I'm sure one of them will end up discontented and will likely leave UST or at least leave the team.  A kid who comes down from D1 to D3 isn't going to be content in a backup role, even if he's one of the F.A.M.I.L.Y.

So all these QBs are gunning for the top spot at UST, but backup status doesn't necessarily mean anyone's leaving the team. These guys are all talented athletes and it isn't unheard of to have players switch positions at UST.

I'm sure at least one of them is practicing the behind the back toss out of a fake PAT for the 2 point conversion as I type this......

[Mr.MIAC]

@ 105;

Yes, embarrassingly, I had forgotten that UST had snuck in a second D1 QB just after a three article blitz in the Star Trib about Perra.  One of them will be playing at BU before long.

Gunga, gunga galunga.

Ha!  We'll see about that...

Tom Thumb is right, but I'm sure one of them will end up discontented and will likely leave UST or at least leave the team.  A kid who comes down from D1 to D3 isn't going to be content in a backup role, even if he's one of the F.A.M.I.L.Y.

So all these QBs are gunning for the top spot at UST, but backup status doesn't necessarily mean anyone's leaving the team. These guys are all talented athletes and it isn't unheard of to have players switch positions at UST.

I'm sure at least one of them is practicing the behind the back toss out of a fake PAT for the 2 point conversion as I type this......

We call that one Carl's Junior...       

[OldAuggie]

@ 105;

Yes, embarrassingly, I had forgotten that UST had snuck in a second D1 QB just after a three article blitz in the Star Trib about Perra.  One of them will be playing at BU before long.

Gunga, gunga galunga.

Ha!  We'll see about that...

Tom Thumb is right, but I'm sure one of them will end up discontented and will likely leave UST or at least leave the team.  A kid who comes down from D1 to D3 isn't going to be content in a backup role, even if he's one of the F.A.M.I.L.Y.

So all these QBs are gunning for the top spot at UST, but backup status doesn't necessarily mean anyone's leaving the team. These guys are all talented athletes and it isn't unheard of to have players switch positions at UST.

I'm sure at least one of them is practicing the behind the back toss out of a fake PAT for the 2 point conversion as I type this......

I'm sure they are but that trick was last year, what's new for this year?

[USTBench]

Top 25 is out. Based on what I saw in the semifinals, Linfield and UWW are a tad too high (new season, I know), but hard to argue with the rest of the order.

[OzJohnnie]

Top 25 is out. Based on what I saw in the semifinals, Linfield and UWW are a tad too high (new season, I know), but hard to argue with the rest of the order.

The link: http://d3football.com/top25/2016/preseason

UST at 4
SJU at 9

Votes to CON and BU.

And this from the Johnnie press release:

Seven teams in the West region, including SJU, were ranked in D3football.com's top 25. Five of the seven were in the top 10: Linfield (No. 2), Wisconsin-Whitewater (No. 3), St. Thomas (No. 4), Wisconsin-Oshkosh (No. 6), Wisconsin-Platteville (No. 12) and Whitworth (No. 19).

[sjusection105]

So all these QBs are gunning for the top spot at UST, but backup status doesn't necessarily mean anyone's leaving the team. These guys are all talented athletes and it isn't unheard of to have players switch positions at UST.

I guess stranger things have happened but it's hard to imagine leaving a D1 program to  transfer to UST and play a different position. I would venture a guess that neither of these guys have played anything but QB since middle school. There is a greater chance of the odd man out leaving the program especially if Fenske gets the nod. If Fenske gets the nod the two D1 guys really start to question their decision and doubt their own ability. It should be a soap opera worth watching. Does anyone remember a So. Cal. poster named Snoop Dawg- this sounds a lot like his kid's situation.

[OzJohnnie]

So all these QBs are gunning for the top spot at UST, but backup status doesn't necessarily mean anyone's leaving the team. These guys are all talented athletes and it isn't unheard of to have players switch positions at UST.

I guess stranger things have happened but it's hard to imagine leaving a D1 program to  transfer to UST and play a different position. I would venture a guess that neither of these guys have played anything but QB since middle school. There is a greater chance of the odd man out leaving the program especially if Fenske gets the nod. If Fenske gets the nod the two D1 guys really start to question their decision and doubt their own ability. It should be a soap opera worth watching. Does anyone remember a So. Cal. poster named Snoop Dawg- this sounds a lot like his kid's situation.

Yeah, snoopdawg. He got under people's skin but he had a sweet camper van and hung out with Tiger Woods. Livin' life large, one chased ambulance at a time.

[Boys of Fall]

So all these QBs are gunning for the top spot at UST, but backup status doesn't necessarily mean anyone's leaving the team. These guys are all talented athletes and it isn't unheard of to have players switch positions at UST.

I guess stranger things have happened but it's hard to imagine leaving a D1 program to  transfer to UST and play a different position. I would venture a guess that neither of these guys have played anything but QB since middle school. There is a greater chance of the odd man out leaving the program especially if Fenske gets the nod. If Fenske gets the nod the two D1 guys really start to question their decision and doubt their own ability. It should be a soap opera worth watching. Does anyone remember a So. Cal. poster named Snoop Dawg- this sounds a lot like his kid's situation.

Players change positions at all colleges, not just UST, but I tend to agree with 105 on this one.  D1 QB's transferring to a D3 school probably aren't of the mindset to switch to WR, TE, DB, or another position.  These guys have been groomed to be QB's from a young age.  Slightly different situation, but GAC ended up with a very good QB recently because he didn't get the nod early at SJU.

[badgerwarhawk]

The thing about QBs is that they tend to be pretty versatile athletes capable of playing other skill positions like receiver and/or one of the defensive back positions.  I've even seen them converted to linebacker.

Are these D1 transfers former scholarship athletes or were they a walk on?  If they were a walk on it very possible that they just want to play and realized that wasn't going to happen where they were.  That type of athlete may be considerably more amenable, despite being groomed, to playing another position.

Also it's naïve to think that this issue wasn't discussed when the two parties discussed the possibility of transferring.  You may or may not like Curuso but from this outsider's perception the dude knows what he's doing and right now he's doing it pretty well. 

[AO]

The thing about QBs is that they tend to be pretty versatile athletes capable of playing other skill positions like receiver and/or one of the defensive back positions.  I've even seen them converted to linebacker.

Are these D1 transfers former scholarship athletes or were they a walk on?  If they were a walk on it very possible that they just want to play and realized that wasn't going to happen where they were.  That type of athlete may be considerably more amenable, despite being groomed, to playing another position.

Also it's naïve to think that this issue wasn't discussed when the two parties discussed the possibility of transferring.  You may or may not like Curuso but from this outsider's perception the dude knows what he's doing and right now he's doing it pretty well.

Gabe Green was on scholarship at Southern Miss.  Perra was a walk-on at the U, but did have an offer from South Dakota coming out of HS.

[Boys of Fall]

The thing about QBs is that they tend to be pretty versatile athletes capable of playing other skill positions like receiver and/or one of the defensive back positions.  I've even seen them converted to linebacker.

Are these D1 transfers former scholarship athletes or were they a walk on?  If they were a walk on it very possible that they just want to play and realized that wasn't going to happen where they were.  That type of athlete may be considerably more amenable, despite being groomed, to playing another position.

Also it's naïve to think that this issue wasn't discussed when the two parties discussed the possibility of transferring.  You may or may not like Curuso but from this outsider's perception the dude knows what he's doing and right now he's doing it pretty well.

I agree Caruso knows what he's doing, but it might also be naïve of us to think all the cards were on the table and Perra was told UST was recruiting another D1 transfer, but that if QB didn't work out he might be able to play receiver, defensive back, or even linebacker.  Who knows, maybe he wants to be part of the F.A.M.I.L.Y. regardless of where he plays.  Questioning though if a kid who thought he was good enough to be a D1 QB would want to play elsewhere at the D3 level.  Will be a fun competition to follow.

[OzJohnnie]

The thing about QBs is that they tend to be pretty versatile athletes capable of playing other skill positions like receiver and/or one of the defensive back positions.  I've even seen them converted to linebacker.

Are these D1 transfers former scholarship athletes or were they a walk on?  If they were a walk on it very possible that they just want to play and realized that wasn't going to happen where they were.  That type of athlete may be considerably more amenable, despite being groomed, to playing another position.

Also it's naïve to think that this issue wasn't discussed when the two parties discussed the possibility of transferring.  You may or may not like Curuso but from this outsider's perception the dude knows what he's doing and right now he's doing it pretty well.

I agree Caruso knows what he's doing, but it might also be naïve of us to think all the cards were on the table and Perra was told UST was recruiting another D1 transfer, but that if QB didn't work out he might be able to play receiver, defensive back, or even linebacker.  Who knows, maybe he wants to be part of the F.A.M.I.L.Y. regardless of where he plays.  Questioning though if a kid who thought he was good enough to be a D1 QB would want to play elsewhere at the D3 level.  Will be a fun competition to follow.

I guess I felt sorry for Perra.  He did those articles in the Strib talking up QB next year and then a couple weeks later here comes a scholarship D1 QB. UST a guy in a tough spot and you would think the Strib articles wouldn't have happened if he knew what was about to go down. But if I recall correctly, Caruso was quoted in those Perra articles too. He certainly knew what was going down. I never went back to read them but it would be interesting to see how Caruso was parsing his words at the time in order to avoid claims of deception.

[OldAuggie]

The thing about QBs is that they tend to be pretty versatile athletes capable of playing other skill positions like receiver and/or one of the defensive back positions.  I've even seen them converted to linebacker.

Are these D1 transfers former scholarship athletes or were they a walk on?  If they were a walk on it very possible that they just want to play and realized that wasn't going to happen where they were.  That type of athlete may be considerably more amenable, despite being groomed, to playing another position.

Also it's naïve to think that this issue wasn't discussed when the two parties discussed the possibility of transferring.  You may or may not like Curuso but from this outsider's perception the dude knows what he's doing and right now he's doing it pretty well.

I agree Caruso knows what he's doing, but it might also be naïve of us to think all the cards were on the table and Perra was told UST was recruiting another D1 transfer, but that if QB didn't work out he might be able to play receiver, defensive back, or even linebacker.  Who knows, maybe he wants to be part of the F.A.M.I.L.Y. regardless of where he plays.  Questioning though if a kid who thought he was good enough to be a D1 QB would want to play elsewhere at the D3 level.  Will be a fun competition to follow.

I guess I felt sorry for Perra.  He did those articles in the Strib talking up QB next year and then a couple weeks later here comes a scholarship D1 QB. UST a guy in a tough spot and you would think the Strib articles wouldn't have happened if he knew what was about to go down. But if I recall correctly, Caruso was quoted in those Perra articles too. He certainly knew what was going down. I never went back to read them but it would be interesting to see how Caruso was parsing his words at the time in order to avoid claims of deception.

shamasportsheadliners.com:
"St. Thomas football coach Glenn Caruso told Sports Headliners Gopher transfer Jacques Perra, who will be a sophomore next fall, is a leading candidate for the starting quarterback job. Tommies' spring practices started earlier this month and continue into May."

[sjusection105]

The thing about QBs is that they tend to be pretty versatile athletes capable of playing other skill positions like receiver and/or one of the defensive back positions.  I've even seen them converted to linebacker.

Are these D1 transfers former scholarship athletes or were they a walk on?  If they were a walk on it very possible that they just want to play and realized that wasn't going to happen where they were.  That type of athlete may be considerably more amenable, despite being groomed, to playing another position.

Also it's naïve to think that this issue wasn't discussed when the two parties discussed the possibility of transferring.  You may or may not like Curuso but from this outsider's perception the dude knows what he's doing and right now he's doing it pretty well.

I agree Caruso knows what he's doing, but it might also be naïve of us to think all the cards were on the table and Perra was told UST was recruiting another D1 transfer, but that if QB didn't work out he might be able to play receiver, defensive back, or even linebacker.  Who knows, maybe he wants to be part of the F.A.M.I.L.Y. regardless of where he plays.  Questioning though if a kid who thought he was good enough to be a D1 QB would want to play elsewhere at the D3 level.  Will be a fun competition to follow.

I guess I felt sorry for Perra.  He did those articles in the Strib talking up QB next year and then a couple weeks later here comes a scholarship D1 QB. UST a guy in a tough spot and you would think the Strib articles wouldn't have happened if he knew what was about to go down. But if I recall correctly, Caruso was quoted in those Perra articles too. He certainly knew what was going down. I never went back to read them but it would be interesting to see how Caruso was parsing his words at the time in order to avoid claims of deception.

shamasportsheadliners.com:
"St. Thomas football coach Glenn Caruso told Sports Headliners Gopher transfer Jacques Perra, who will be a sophomore next fall, is a leading candidate for the starting quarterback job. Tommies' spring practices started earlier this month and continue into May."

Well, none of us were there and that's why this is so fun. I don't understand what goes through the minds of Millennials but I reckon someone is about to go looking for a safe zone because chicanery has been perpetrated on one of the participating parties.

[Tom Thumb]

I doubt Caruso had a clue that Green was interested in transferring to UST until the end of April. Green played in Southern Miss' spring game in April (https://www.instagram.com/p/BEmZWfpI-RE/?taken-by=gabegreen6) and then decided to leave. All of those articles on Perra were back in January. Maybe Pat or someone else can correct me, but I thought coaches were not allowed to contact players when they are on other teams.

If I had to guess, Green was likely recruited by UST when he played HS ball in Illinois. Once he made the decision to leave, he reached out to UST and let them know he was interested in possibly transferring. It looks like he narrowed his options down to Northern Iowa, Marian, and UST in early May. It was not announced that he would actually attend UST until May 15: http://www.wandtv.com/story/31977811/former-shg-quarterback-green-commits-to-st-thomas.