FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/334834653319038/?fref=nf

That link doesn't help the Facebook-less.

[faunch]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/334834653319038/?fref=nf

That link doesn't help the Facebook-less.

It's on an SJU Football Parents page.  The text reads:
"This is what the TAILGATING PARKING LOT (Science Bldg Lot) looks like right now. Sounds like the new tailgating location will be the first large lot as you come onto campus. Flynntown paved parking lot."

[Mr.MIAC]

On the topic of clean living at Bethel, why does the university find alcohol consumption objectionable? I read the Covenant of Life Together, which states the Bethel community aims to "discover the mind of Christ and to become like Christ." It seems Christ was pretty okay with alcohol, given the whole turning water into wine bit. Also, it says members of the Bethel community must "abstain from illicit or nonmedical use of drugs." I assume this includes marijuana. Here in DC it's legal to smoke marijuana for medical and/or recreational purposes. Let's say a Bethel student does an internship here over the summer; they start experiencing migranes from all the BS floating around this town. Are they allowed to toke a little reefer?

I don't get down on Bethel for the rules they supposedly impose on their students, a lot of people live their lives not necessarily only by what is legal.  I suspect there are a number of catholics on this board that attend UST/SJU (and other schools) and abortion comes to mind.  If a UST intern got pregnant out in DC would abortion be the answer because it's legal??

Nonetheless, I do like the joke, How do we know Bethel has students with higher religious character?  Just ask them.

Wow, now back to football.

To be clear, I'm not getting down on Bethel for anything. I'm asking serious questions about Bethel's code of conduct. If members of the Bethel community swear that they will endeavor to "become like Christ" upon entering the university, and Christ promoted alcohol consumption, then shouldn't Bethel at least be accepting of it? On marijuana, I'm not asking about whether Bethel students would use marijuana if it were legal. I'm asking about how Bethel approaches the issue given that it's now legal in a growing number of states. If a student legally smokes marijuana for medicinal purposes in DC, does the university consider that a code violation? Based on Bethel's website, legal narcotics used for medicinal purposes are fine.

[Mr.MIAC]

What's up with those crazy types living at BU who commit themselves to standards?  Who does that now days?  Nuts.

So in the case of booze and marijuana, how does BU justify its standards? As social norms and the law evolve, does BU's code of conduct change as well?

[art76]

On the topic of clean living at Bethel, why does the university find alcohol consumption objectionable? I read the Covenant of Life Together, which states the Bethel community aims to "discover the mind of Christ and to become like Christ." It seems Christ was pretty okay with alcohol, given the whole turning water into wine bit. Also, it says members of the Bethel community must "abstain from illicit or nonmedical use of drugs." I assume this includes marijuana. Here in DC it's legal to smoke marijuana for medical and/or recreational purposes. Let's say a Bethel student does an internship here over the summer; they start experiencing migranes from all the BS floating around this town. Are they allowed to toke a little reefer?

I don't get down on Bethel for the rules they supposedly impose on their students, a lot of people live their lives not necessarily only by what is legal.  I suspect there are a number of catholics on this board that attend UST/SJU (and other schools) and abortion comes to mind.  If a UST intern got pregnant out in DC would abortion be the answer because it's legal??

Nonetheless, I do like the joke, How do we know Bethel has students with higher religious character?  Just ask them.

Wow, now back to football.

To be clear, I'm not getting down on Bethel for anything. I'm asking serious questions about Bethel's code of conduct. If members of the Bethel community swear that they will endeavor to "become like Christ" upon entering the university, and Christ promoted alcohol consumption, then shouldn't Bethel at least be accepting of it? On marijuana, I'm not asking about whether Bethel students would use marijuana if it were legal. I'm asking about how Bethel approaches the issue given that it's now legal in a growing number of states. If a student legally smokes marijuana for medicinal purposes in DC, does the university consider that a code violation? Based on Bethel's website, legal narcotics used for medicinal purposes are fine.

You'll have to trust me on this - I do NOT speak for Bethel University. However, I am an alumnus, as are my wife and two sons - so I guess that makes us an alumni family, eh? And my wife works there - so I know a little bit about the place.

You have to admit, asking a question/questions like this in a football forum kind of limits the kind of responses you're likely to receive. Generally speaking, football players are mostly tolerated on campus as a necessary evil by most of the student population - you know, all they do is try to get some dead cowhide across an arbitrary line in the middle of a field - what's the big deal, anyways? But I digress.

As I understand the current lifestyle statement it is to be read something along these lines: When you sign the lifestyle statement as a student or staff person, you may not hold to certain reservations concerning lifestyle issues like drinking alcohol. However, for the sake of the "weaker" brother or sister, that may be lead into sin by your freedom, for them, we ask you to abstain from certain activities.

Take a look at what the apostle Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 10:14-33. I am also NOT an exegete, just a man trying to live my life as Christ would - not offending my "weaker" brothers or sisters - it is for them that I abstain. Now, don't even get started on the whole prideful angle of being "more holy" in being abstinent either - just keep in mind what Paul has to say about that, too. Humility goes a long way as a faithful follower of Christ.

Pat, feel free to nix the discussion if I've strayed too far adrift.

[Mr.MIAC]

On the topic of clean living at Bethel, why does the university find alcohol consumption objectionable? I read the Covenant of Life Together, which states the Bethel community aims to "discover the mind of Christ and to become like Christ." It seems Christ was pretty okay with alcohol, given the whole turning water into wine bit. Also, it says members of the Bethel community must "abstain from illicit or nonmedical use of drugs." I assume this includes marijuana. Here in DC it's legal to smoke marijuana for medical and/or recreational purposes. Let's say a Bethel student does an internship here over the summer; they start experiencing migranes from all the BS floating around this town. Are they allowed to toke a little reefer?

I don't get down on Bethel for the rules they supposedly impose on their students, a lot of people live their lives not necessarily only by what is legal.  I suspect there are a number of catholics on this board that attend UST/SJU (and other schools) and abortion comes to mind.  If a UST intern got pregnant out in DC would abortion be the answer because it's legal??

Nonetheless, I do like the joke, How do we know Bethel has students with higher religious character?  Just ask them.

Wow, now back to football.

To be clear, I'm not getting down on Bethel for anything. I'm asking serious questions about Bethel's code of conduct. If members of the Bethel community swear that they will endeavor to "become like Christ" upon entering the university, and Christ promoted alcohol consumption, then shouldn't Bethel at least be accepting of it? On marijuana, I'm not asking about whether Bethel students would use marijuana if it were legal. I'm asking about how Bethel approaches the issue given that it's now legal in a growing number of states. If a student legally smokes marijuana for medicinal purposes in DC, does the university consider that a code violation? Based on Bethel's website, legal narcotics used for medicinal purposes are fine.

You'll have to trust me on this - I do NOT speak for Bethel University. However, I am an alumnus, as are my wife and two sons - so I guess that makes us an alumni family, eh? And my wife works there - so I know a little bit about the place.

You have to admit, asking a question/questions like this in a football forum kind of limits the kind of responses you're likely to receive. Generally speaking, football players are mostly tolerated on campus as a necessary evil by most of the student population - you know, all they do is try to get some dead cowhide across an arbitrary line in the middle of a field - what's the big deal, anyways? But I digress.

As I understand the current lifestyle statement it is to be read something along these lines: When you sign the lifestyle statement as a student or staff person, you may not hold to certain reservations concerning lifestyle issues like drinking alcohol. However, for the sake of the "weaker" brother or sister, that may be lead into sin by your freedom, for them, we ask you to abstain from certain activities.

Take a look at what the apostle Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 10:14-33. I am also NOT an exegete, just a man trying to live my life as Christ would - not offending my "weaker" brothers or sisters - it is for them that I abstain. Now, don't even get started on the whole prideful angle of being "more holy" in being abstinent either - just keep in mind what Paul has to say about that, too. Humility goes a long way as a faithful follower of Christ.

Pat, feel free to nix the discussion if I've strayed too far adrift.

+K. Great post. The "looking out for your brother and sister" approach makes a lot of sense. Does this mindset apply to other behaviors, such as maintaining a poor diet and chronic inactivity, two factors that lead to some of our deadliest illnesses?

[DuffMan]

It's on an SJU Football Parents page.  The text reads:
"This is what the TAILGATING PARKING LOT (Science Bldg Lot) looks like right now. Sounds like the new tailgating location will be the first large lot as you come onto campus. Flynntown paved parking lot."

That's more convenient for parking if you don't get there early (believe me, I like to get there early, but the young family doesn't share quite the enthusiasm that I do), but that's also a long trek up to the stadium, and makes halftime libations more difficult! 

[faunch]

It's on an SJU Football Parents page.  The text reads:
"This is what the TAILGATING PARKING LOT (Science Bldg Lot) looks like right now. Sounds like the new tailgating location will be the first large lot as you come onto campus. Flynntown paved parking lot."

That's more convenient for parking if you don't get there early (believe me, I like to get there early, but the young family doesn't share quite the enthusiasm that I do), but that's also a long trek up to the stadium, and makes halftime libations more difficult! 

Brian a carry on to the stadium...I bet that diaper bag could hold few Hamm's.

[DuffMan]

Brian a carry on to the stadium...I bet that diaper bag could hold few Hamm's.

We're finally done with diapers, but we always have a backpack or two full of snacks and other things to keep them occupied.  A thermos full of cocoa and Rum Chata was a staple at late-season games last year!

[faunch]

Since Oz is always posting that Aussie Rules crap I thought I would share some highlights from this last weekend's Ireland GAA Hurling semifinals.  Kilkenny beat Waterford in a replay of the previous week's match and Tipperary downed Galway in the Sunday match. 
The All Ireland Hurling Final on Sunday, Sept 4. is all set between the Premier County / Tipperary and the Cats of Kilkenny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDGV0djObw

[OzJohnnie]

Hurling is a very entertaining sport. I don't understand how half of Ireland doesn't walk around with their teeth all busted out from the hurling sticks. The crazies don't wear face masks.

The Hawks have an Irish kid they signed up this year. A flaming bright red head, or as they call them in Oz, a ranga. Short for Orangutang, also red haired. And almost every red head's nickname is Bluey. Because it makes no sense, I think.  Our primary school has a dinner for the year six families whose kids are moving on to high school. A couple years ago a bright red headed boy was introduced by the student MC as Pentecost Pat. Part of the school's bully program, I suspect, was to tease kids just enough to toughen them up a little.

[hazzben]

Hurling is a very entertaining sport. I don't understand how half of Ireland doesn't walk around with their teeth all busted out from the hurling sticks. The crazies don't wear face masks.

The Hawks have an Irish kid they signed up this year. A flaming bright red head, or as they call them in Oz, a ranga. Short for Orangutang, also red haired. And almost every red head's nickname is Bluey. Because it makes no sense, I think.  Our primary school has a dinner for the year six families whose kids are moving on to high school. A couple years ago a bright red headed boy was introduced by the student MC as Pentecost Pat. Part of the school's bully program, I suspect, was to tease kids just enough to toughen them up a little.

I like how guys operate down under 

[faunch]

http://www.sctimes.com/story/sports/college/2016/08/17/sju-quarterbacks-vie-open-job/88883308/

Only two freshmen QB's in Collegeville and six total???  Did having Erdmann transfer (4 years of eligibility) in and also having juniors Alvord and Anderson in the mix scare off a bunch of potential freshman?

[DuffMan]

My season tickets arrived today!

[OzJohnnie]

I got a new job today.  Back on the jet plane, but that's how it is for most jobs these days it seems.  Thank goodness for the interweb.