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[OldAuggie]

Bethel reminds me of SJU four or five years ago.  We were 6-4 in 2011 and 5-5 in 2012.  But we hung in there (I always looked to Linfield for inspiration as they made in through their dark days a few years earlier).

BU won't be down long.  And then I'll really resent this little pep talk.

Bethel recruits a certain type of player that may not be on the radar of other MIAC coaches,because other MIAC coaches don't recruit those areas. I'm just wondering if there will ever come a day when a kid decides to go somewhere else in the MIAC because of the lack of facilities at Bethel? Let's just use Becker as an example. Dwight Linden,one of the nicest coaches in the MSHSL and very successful. This is going against my initial premise but a lot of kids from Becker go to Bethel and a lot go to SJU. Would there ever be a time when the facilities of SJU close the deal for the kid not going to Bethel and instead going to SJU. Dwight's own kids went to Bethel & he has a strong relationship with Steve Johnson,but SJU has Brandon Novak...it's all hypothetical but it does make you wonder when a Bethel will get a major donor for facility upgrades.

They recently built a new weight room, new locker rooms and did a major reno of the athletic dept (meeting rooms, etc.). The next step would definitely be the stadium itself. All that to say, it's not UST or UMHB Taj Mahal-esq, but they are really significant upgrades.

The AARC is nice, the jumbotron is cool - as are the new bleachers affixed to the AARC, but the grandstand itself is a dive. Not sure what they could do to improve it outside of tearing up the track or temporarily tearing up a part of Cretin, so it's probably stuck like that, but it'd be nice to make some improvements.

FWIW Bench I like that old stadium feel that you have at UST. Sure the grandstand could use a minor upgrade here and there but I would hope if they fix it up they leave the old time ambiance as is. I say take advantage of it, that is hard to find.

[miac952]

Bethel reminds me of SJU four or five years ago.  We were 6-4 in 2011 and 5-5 in 2012.  But we hung in there (I always looked to Linfield for inspiration as they made in through their dark days a few years earlier).

BU won't be down long.  And then I'll really resent this little pep talk.

Bethel recruits a certain type of player that may not be on the radar of other MIAC coaches,because other MIAC coaches don't recruit those areas. I'm just wondering if there will ever come a day when a kid decides to go somewhere else in the MIAC because of the lack of facilities at Bethel? Let's just use Becker as an example. Dwight Linden,one of the nicest coaches in the MSHSL and very successful. This is going against my initial premise but a lot of kids from Becker go to Bethel and a lot go to SJU. Would there ever be a time when the facilities of SJU close the deal for the kid not going to Bethel and instead going to SJU. Dwight's own kids went to Bethel & he has a strong relationship with Steve Johnson,but SJU has Brandon Novak...it's all hypothetical but it does make you wonder when a Bethel will get a major donor for facility upgrades.

They recently built a new weight room, new locker rooms and did a major reno of the athletic dept (meeting rooms, etc.). The next step would definitely be the stadium itself. All that to say, it's not UST or UMHB Taj Mahal-esq, but they are really significant upgrades.

The AARC is nice, the jumbotron is cool - as are the new bleachers affixed to the AARC, but the grandstand itself is a dive. Not sure what they could do to improve it outside of tearing up the track or temporarily tearing up a part of Cretin, so it's probably stuck like that, but it'd be nice to make some improvements.

FWIW Bench I like that old stadium feel that you have at UST. Sure the grandstand could use a minor upgrade here and there but I would hope if they fix it up they leave the old time ambiance as is. I say take advantage of it, that is hard to find.

Would never want the old grandstand look to disappear, but some upgrades are needed there, especially above, in the press box, and underneath with bathrooms, concessions, etc. There have been a few wayward students throughout the years caught behind hurdles and high jump mats behaving in un-catholic manner. 

I think some of the problem is that when they touch it there will be some significant ADA compliant costs that come with it. I have heard rumors that it will be part of the next capital campaign to make the updates with an expanded pressbox and possibly a a couple suites on each end as well.

The track and field turf have hit their useful life and are up for replacement next offseason I believe.

[sowilson]

sowilson-
Well, what do you think the Gusties will be able to do vs the Auggies this weekend? Looks like you had a defensive TD and a blocked kick for a TD so the offense was not really rolling with the new QB in there. Hard to adjust on the fly like that but I understand now why you think Augsburg could win. I assume the new QB will be a capable replacement if Veldman can't play.

Well, I haven't seen them practice this week but I assume the new QB has taken most (all) of the 1st team reps this week and they've been able to work on things they've seen in film.  I would expect to see them run a bit more and add some beef to the line (i.e. add a TE and/or HB on pass plays) in order to gain the QB a 1/2s of pocket time.  Last I heard is that Veldman is out for the season and that Martinez was waiting on film but that it looks like a minor MCL strain.  If true, the starting running back should be back in 2-4 weeks.

The defense is pretty good though.  I still expect GAC to win in a relatively low scoring, close game.  Should be fun to watch.

[AO]

Bethel reminds me of SJU four or five years ago.  We were 6-4 in 2011 and 5-5 in 2012.  But we hung in there (I always looked to Linfield for inspiration as they made in through their dark days a few years earlier).

BU won't be down long.  And then I'll really resent this little pep talk.

Bethel recruits a certain type of player that may not be on the radar of other MIAC coaches,because other MIAC coaches don't recruit those areas. I'm just wondering if there will ever come a day when a kid decides to go somewhere else in the MIAC because of the lack of facilities at Bethel? Let's just use Becker as an example. Dwight Linden,one of the nicest coaches in the MSHSL and very successful. This is going against my initial premise but a lot of kids from Becker go to Bethel and a lot go to SJU. Would there ever be a time when the facilities of SJU close the deal for the kid not going to Bethel and instead going to SJU. Dwight's own kids went to Bethel & he has a strong relationship with Steve Johnson,but SJU has Brandon Novak...it's all hypothetical but it does make you wonder when a Bethel will get a major donor for facility upgrades.

They recently built a new weight room, new locker rooms and did a major reno of the athletic dept (meeting rooms, etc.). The next step would definitely be the stadium itself. All that to say, it's not UST or UMHB Taj Mahal-esq, but they are really significant upgrades.

The AARC is nice, the jumbotron is cool - as are the new bleachers affixed to the AARC, but the grandstand itself is a dive. Not sure what they could do to improve it outside of tearing up the track or temporarily tearing up a part of Cretin, so it's probably stuck like that, but it'd be nice to make some improvements.

FWIW Bench I like that old stadium feel that you have at UST. Sure the grandstand could use a minor upgrade here and there but I would hope if they fix it up they leave the old time ambiance as is. I say take advantage of it, that is hard to find.

Would never want the old grandstand look to disappear, but some upgrades are needed there, especially above, in the press box, and underneath with bathrooms, concessions, etc. There have been a few wayward students throughout the years caught behind hurdles and high jump mats behaving in un-catholic manner. 

I think some of the problem is that when they touch it there will be some significant ADA compliant costs that come with it. I have heard rumors that it will be part of the next capital campaign to make the updates with an expanded pressbox and possibly a a couple suites on each end as well.

The track and field turf have hit their useful life and are up for replacement next offseason I believe.

I got a sneak peek at the new upgraded stadium plans and took a pic.

[old9manguy]

sowilson-
Well, what do you think the Gusties will be able to do vs the Auggies this weekend? Looks like you had a defensive TD and a blocked kick for a TD so the offense was not really rolling with the new QB in there. Hard to adjust on the fly like that but I understand now why you think Augsburg could win. I assume the new QB will be a capable replacement if Veldman can't play.

Well, I haven't seen them practice this week but I assume the new QB has taken most (all) of the 1st team reps this week and they've been able to work on things they've seen in film.  I would expect to see them run a bit more and add some beef to the line (i.e. add a TE and/or HB on pass plays) in order to gain the QB a 1/2s of pocket time.  Last I heard is that Veldman is out for the season and that Martinez was waiting on film but that it looks like a minor MCL strain.  If true, the starting running back should be back in 2-4 weeks.

The defense is pretty good though.  I still expect GAC to win in a relatively low scoring, close game.  Should be fun to watch.

I have been a spectator on these boards for a long time, and feel I can finally have something here to contribute! I followed all 3 of the Gustie QB'S while they were in High School, I am from Big Lake. Veldman is from Becker, Archer from Princeton, and Snoberger from Sartell. All 3 had very good high school careers. Veldman definitely got more press with the season Becker had that year. Archer looks to be the starter at Gustavus now. He had started for Princeton for 2 years and did very well. I believe he is more athletic than Veldman, and has great arm strength. I think Veldman is more of a pocket passer.  I looked at the Gustavus website and he also plays baseball there too. He went 4-0 as a starter last year as a freshman. He definitely looks more durable than Veldman or Snoberger. Time will tell! I think Veldman needs to add a few pounds to his frame to survive at the QB position, or Gustavus needs to improve the O line. Peter Haugen said in a newspaper quote that the competition was very close for that starting job. I think Veldmans 6'4" height was a major factor in that decision. I do find it interesting that 3 High School QB'S that grew up within a 30 mile radius or so all ended up at the same school.

[art76]

I have been a spectator on these boards for a long time, and feel I can finally have something here to contribute! I followed all 3 of the Gustie QB'S while they were in High School, I am from Big Lake. Veldman is from Becker, Archer from Princeton, and Snoberger from Sartell. All 3 had very good high school careers. Veldman definitely got more press with the season Becker had that year. Archer looks to be the starter at Gustavus now. He had started for Princeton for 2 years and did very well. I believe he is more athletic than Veldman, and has great arm strength. I think Veldman is more of a pocket passer.  I looked at the Gustavus website and he also plays baseball there too. He went 4-0 as a starter last year as a freshman. He definitely looks more durable than Veldman or Snoberger. Time will tell! I think Veldman needs to add a few pounds to his frame to survive at the QB position, or Gustavus needs to improve the O line. Peter Haugen said in a newspaper quote that the competition was very close for that starting job. I think Veldmans 6'4" height was a major factor in that decision. I do find it interesting that 3 High School QB'S that grew up within a 30 mile radius or so all ended up at the same school.

Welcome to the boards old9manguy!

[OldAuggie]

sowilson-
Well, what do you think the Gusties will be able to do vs the Auggies this weekend? Looks like you had a defensive TD and a blocked kick for a TD so the offense was not really rolling with the new QB in there. Hard to adjust on the fly like that but I understand now why you think Augsburg could win. I assume the new QB will be a capable replacement if Veldman can't play.

Well, I haven't seen them practice this week but I assume the new QB has taken most (all) of the 1st team reps this week and they've been able to work on things they've seen in film.  I would expect to see them run a bit more and add some beef to the line (i.e. add a TE and/or HB on pass plays) in order to gain the QB a 1/2s of pocket time.  Last I heard is that Veldman is out for the season and that Martinez was waiting on film but that it looks like a minor MCL strain.  If true, the starting running back should be back in 2-4 weeks.

The defense is pretty good though.  I still expect GAC to win in a relatively low scoring, close game.  Should be fun to watch.

I have been a spectator on these boards for a long time, and feel I can finally have something here to contribute! I followed all 3 of the Gustie QB'S while they were in High School, I am from Big Lake. Veldman is from Becker, Archer from Princeton, and Snoberger from Sartell. All 3 had very good high school careers. Veldman definitely got more press with the season Becker had that year. Archer looks to be the starter at Gustavus now. He had started for Princeton for 2 years and did very well. I believe he is more athletic than Veldman, and has great arm strength. I think Veldman is more of a pocket passer.  I looked at the Gustavus website and he also plays baseball there too. He went 4-0 as a starter last year as a freshman. He definitely looks more durable than Veldman or Snoberger. Time will tell! I think Veldman needs to add a few pounds to his frame to survive at the QB position, or Gustavus needs to improve the O line. Peter Haugen said in a newspaper quote that the competition was very close for that starting job. I think Veldmans 6'4" height was a major factor in that decision. I do find it interesting that 3 High School QB'S that grew up within a 30 mile radius or so all ended up at the same school.

Welcome old9manguy! You know what is also interesting? I probably saw Archer and Snoberger play in high school. I see the former Mississippi 8 teams when they play Rogers so I see Princeton a lot and Sartell is one of the old non conference teams that I see too. Have not watched Becker in a long time so I never saw Veldman.

[old9manguy]

[/quote]u know what is also interesting? I probably saw Archer and Snoberger play in high school. I see the former Mississippi 8 teams when they play Rogers so I see Princeton a lot and Sartell is one of the old non conference teams that I see too. Have not watched Becker in a long time so I never saw Veldman.
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I was an official out that way. Princeton has only played Rogers the past 2 years now, I don"t think Archer ever faced them. I was an official in a JV game when Becker played Princeton. Veldman and Archer were the QB'S, I believe they were sophomores then. Princeton won that game. Archer completed a beautiful pass under great pressure for a touchdown to go ahead with around 35 seconds left in the game. He stood in and got nailed! I went over to him right away to see if he was ok,he picked himself up and was all smiles, he knew what he did. He is one tough kid. I am pretty sure both JV teams were undefeated until that day. Both of those young men were great competitors, and fine examples of what good sportsmanship should look like. I never saw Snoberger play, but from what I read in the papers back them he was top notch also.  I think Gustavus is deeper at the QB position more  now than they have been in years.

[OldAuggie]

u know what is also interesting? I probably saw Archer and Snoberger play in high school. I see the former Mississippi 8 teams when they play Rogers so I see Princeton a lot and Sartell is one of the old non conference teams that I see too. Have not watched Becker in a long time so I never saw Veldman.
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I was an official out that way. Princeton has only played Rogers the past 2 years now, I don"t think Archer ever faced them. I was an official in a JV game when Becker played Princeton. Veldman and Archer were the QB'S, I believe they were sophomores then. Princeton won that game. Archer completed a beautiful pass under great pressure for a touchdown to go ahead with around 35 seconds left in the game. He stood in and got nailed! I went over to him right away to see if he was ok,he picked himself up and was all smiles, he knew what he did. He is one tough kid. I am pretty sure both JV teams were undefeated until that day. Both of those young men were great competitors, and fine examples of what good sportsmanship should look like. I never saw Snoberger play, but from what I read in the papers back them he was top notch also.  I think Gustavus is deeper at the QB position more  now than they have been in years.
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I have absolutely watched Princeton play at Rogers for several years now (I have been to most home games since the school opened in 2003, so yeah.) but maybe there was a window when the Mississippi 8 split into divisions that Rogers did not meet them. I believe that to be true. Anyway sounds like GAC is BACK.

[old9manguy]

I have absolutely watched Princeton play at Rogers for several years now (I have been to most home games since the school opened in 2003, so yeah.) but maybe there was a window when the Mississippi 8 split into divisions that Rogers did not meet them. I believe that to be true. Anyway sounds like GAC is BACK.
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I just looked, when they played in the Mississippi 8 , Princeton was in the opposite division as Rogers. that was in 2013-2014. Prior to that Princeton was in the Granite Ridge for 2

[old9manguy]

sorry, got cut off and couldn't edit that post. Princeton Varsity did not play Rogers from 2011-2014, before that I am betting they did. I see they played them last week though, and it was a butt kicking!

[OldAuggie]

sorry, got cut off and couldn't edit that post. Princeton Varsity did not play Rogers from 2011-2014, before that I am betting they did. I see they played them last week though, and it was a butt kicking!

Yeah I recall a QB that Princeton had about 8-10 years ago that was good. Looked like a D2 bound kid.

Yes it was a butt kicking last week! Until the last 30 seconds or so Rogers had the pedal to the metal. Big game tomorrow against St. Michael -Albertville and it looked like they were already in that mode vs Princeton.   

[Boys of Fall]

Yeah I recall a QB that Princeton had about 8-10 years ago that was good. Looked like a D2 bound kid.

Yes it was a butt kicking last week! Until the last 30 seconds or so Rogers had the pedal to the metal. Big game tomorrow against St. Michael -Albertville and it looked like they were already in that mode vs Princeton.
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You're probably thinking about Philip Klaphake.  He came out of Princeton about that time and went on to a nice career at SCSU.

[OldAuggie]

Yeah I recall a QB that Princeton had about 8-10 years ago that was good. Looked like a D2 bound kid.

Yes it was a butt kicking last week! Until the last 30 seconds or so Rogers had the pedal to the metal. Big game tomorrow against St. Michael -Albertville and it looked like they were already in that mode vs Princeton.

You're probably thinking about Philip Klaphake.  He came out of Princeton about that time and went on to a nice career at SCSU.
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Yeah that is him. He did it all for Princeton, played defensive back too. I was impressed.

[old9manguy]

Yep Phillip was good, he went on to be a 4 year starter at SCSU, and broke about every record there was to have there. He was also on the Gustavus Coaching Staff last year, and is now the head coach at Sauk Rapids - Rice. A co-worker told me he was the youngest head coach in Minnesota right now.