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Flynntowne

Quote from: RoyalsFan on September 10, 2016, 11:47:43 PM
Looks to be a long year for the Royals. The weak spot is definitely the secondary. #16 didn't give up any long tds like last week but I think he was so concerned about getting beat deep that he gave up too big of a cushion. I think the first 3 passes that went his way today went for 36, 22 and 24 yards. The rest of the secondary didn't look much better. The tight ends down the seam were open all day long.

Bethel played a good first half, leading 28-12 at halftime, due in large part to a pick 6 and a blocked punt that gave the offense the ball inside the 10. The second half the defense wore down and gave up 22 points and the offense couldn't do anything until the final drive of regulation where they tied it up but then missed the extra point. Carthage then won it in overtime on 2 running plays right up the gut that they ran all 4th quarter and Bethel couldn't stop. Carthage had close to twice the possession time at about 40 minutes to 20. Maybe the new no huddle offense is hurting the defense more than helping the offense.

At this point, I guess I would rather see them get Trey Anderson some more experience at qb as it appears they aren't going to be contending for anything this year. I didn't think Dzurik was very accurate with his passing today and they were only able to gain 65 yards on the ground.

On a side note, I thought it was odd on a play where Carthage was throwing a screen pass and it hit one of the linemen in the back but no penalty was called. It should have been an illegal touching penalty but nothing was called other than an incomplete pass. It's hard to believe all the refs didn't see that or that none of them knew it should have been a penalty.


Actually, I think that in order for there to be an illegal touch the ineligible player must intentionally touch the ball.  Here's the rule:

                               Illegal Touching

ARTICLE 11. No originally ineligible player while inbounds shall
intentionally touch a legal forward pass until it has touched an opponent
or an official (A.R. 5-2-3-I and A.R. 7-3-11-I-II).
PENALTY—Five yards from the previous spot [S16].

jamtod

Safe travels to everyone heading up to Collegeville. When I awake, I shall be making the trek northward.

bleedpurple

Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 23, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
TOMMIES SUCK!
Congrats on 7000, Oz.  And you picked a sure winner!

Have fun at the game everyone, I know it's a special day up there.

57Johnnie

The older the violin - the sweeter the music!

sju56321

I am interested to see if either team is rated higher than they should be, or will this be a 7-10 point game.
Go Johnnies!

57Johnnie

Quote from: sju56321 on September 24, 2016, 12:18:48 PM
I am interested to see if either team is rated higher than they should be, or will this be a 7-10 point game.
Go Johnnies!
We probably need some MAGIC today.
The older the violin - the sweeter the music!

desertcat1

#79011
Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 23, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
TOMMIES SUCK!


Nice Choice.... :)

FULL CAPS ALL THE WAY ..   for # 7000..  :-*
   
Go Johnnies
" If you are going to be a bear, be a Grizzly"

C.W. Smith

RoyalsFan

Quote from: Flynntowne on September 23, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on September 10, 2016, 11:47:43 PM
Looks to be a long year for the Royals. The weak spot is definitely the secondary. #16 didn't give up any long tds like last week but I think he was so concerned about getting beat deep that he gave up too big of a cushion. I think the first 3 passes that went his way today went for 36, 22 and 24 yards. The rest of the secondary didn't look much better. The tight ends down the seam were open all day long.

Bethel played a good first half, leading 28-12 at halftime, due in large part to a pick 6 and a blocked punt that gave the offense the ball inside the 10. The second half the defense wore down and gave up 22 points and the offense couldn't do anything until the final drive of regulation where they tied it up but then missed the extra point. Carthage then won it in overtime on 2 running plays right up the gut that they ran all 4th quarter and Bethel couldn't stop. Carthage had close to twice the possession time at about 40 minutes to 20. Maybe the new no huddle offense is hurting the defense more than helping the offense.

At this point, I guess I would rather see them get Trey Anderson some more experience at qb as it appears they aren't going to be contending for anything this year. I didn't think Dzurik was very accurate with his passing today and they were only able to gain 65 yards on the ground.

On a side note, I thought it was odd on a play where Carthage was throwing a screen pass and it hit one of the linemen in the back but no penalty was called. It should have been an illegal touching penalty but nothing was called other than an incomplete pass. It's hard to believe all the refs didn't see that or that none of them knew it should have been a penalty.


Actually, I think that in order for there to be an illegal touch the ineligible player must intentionally touch the ball.  Here's the rule:

                               Illegal Touching

ARTICLE 11. No originally ineligible player while inbounds shall
intentionally touch a legal forward pass until it has touched an opponent
or an official (A.R. 5-2-3-I and A.R. 7-3-11-I-II).
PENALTY—Five yards from the previous spot [S16].

I believe you are correct - the key word there is 'intentional'. I just thought anytime a non eligible receiver touched a forward pass it was a penalty. Thanks!

jamtod


OzJohnnie

#79014
The game was a close one today and the Tommie linemen made the difference, particularly in the first half. In terms of speed and skill, especially at QB, I think the Johnnies are even or better.  Eliminate the mistakes, the fumbles, and find a way to nutralize the Tommie line advantage at least to a draw, and this Johnnie squad can take the Tommies.

Also, VOJ.

EDIT: And the stats are up.   The Johnnies won them all but for rushing, turnovers and points off turnovers.  The line and the mistakes.  Fix those up and this is a very good Johnnie team.  Dangerous in the post season.
  

sju56321

But can't lose another game to be assured of playoffs.

faunch

#79016
Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 24, 2016, 04:57:11 PM
The game was a close one today and the Tommie linemen made the difference, particularly in the first half. In terms of speed and skill, especially at QB, I think the Johnnies are even or better.  Eliminate the mistakes, the fumbles, and find a way to nutralize the Tommie line advantage at least to a draw, and this Johnnie squad can take the Tommies.

Also, VOJ.

EDIT: And the stats are up.   The Johnnies won them all but for rushing, turnovers and points off turnovers.  The line and the mistakes.  Fix those up and this is a very good Johnnie team.  Dangerous in the post season.

I agree and am going to be as positive as I can after this one.  I think a lot of people had kind of given SJU up for dead in the 3rd quarter but they never stopped battling.  Subtract the two turnovers that resulted in touchdowns and the Johnnies might have won this game.  First song on WDGY radio after the post-game show was "Don't Stop Believin'"  Very proud of how the boys in red fought today!

Go Johnnies!!!


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

RoyalsFan

If the Tommies could put up 33 points (could have been 40, 2 missed/blocked field goals and an extra point) against the Johnnies today without Roberts, the rest of the MIAC teams don't stand a chance against them. I understand turnovers played a big part in today's game, but they are part of the game.

RoyalsFan

Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 24, 2016, 04:57:11 PM
The game was a close one today and the Tommie linemen made the difference, particularly in the first half. In terms of speed and skill, especially at QB, I think the Johnnies are even or better.  Eliminate the mistakes, the fumbles, and find a way to nutralize the Tommie line advantage at least to a draw, and this Johnnie squad can take the Tommies.

Also, VOJ.

EDIT: And the stats are up.   The Johnnies won them all but for rushing, turnovers and points off turnovers.  The line and the mistakes.  Fix those up and this is a very good Johnnie team.  Dangerous in the post season.

You left out the most important stat though - the final score. :)

OzJohnnie

Quote from: RoyalsFan on September 24, 2016, 06:19:07 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 24, 2016, 04:57:11 PM
The game was a close one today and the Tommie linemen made the difference, particularly in the first half. In terms of speed and skill, especially at QB, I think the Johnnies are even or better.  Eliminate the mistakes, the fumbles, and find a way to nutralize the Tommie line advantage at least to a draw, and this Johnnie squad can take the Tommies.

Also, VOJ.

EDIT: And the stats are up.   The Johnnies won them all but for rushing, turnovers and points off turnovers.  The line and the mistakes.  Fix those up and this is a very good Johnnie team.  Dangerous in the post season.

You left out the most important stat though - the final score. :)


Feeling cocky after finally winning a game, eh?  I'm looking forward to next weekend. ;)