FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Boys of Fall]

Remember, the stadium issue is only a problem once every other year, when SJU comes to town.  Other than that game the current stadium handles the crowd those in attendance.  I doubt if UST will look into making major stadium modifications for this as opposed to finding other venue options, especially if they can figure out a financial gain.

[finsleft]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4331235-central-minnesota-lake-neighbor-fight-turns-more-ugly-judge-orders-removal-cabin

At least one Johnnie got a victory this week.

Haha Bench! 2 Johnnies, actually, Plaintiff and his attorney.
We are on a roll!

[Pat Coleman]

Remember, the stadium issue is only a problem once every other year, when SJU comes to town.  Other than that game the current stadium handles the crowd those in attendance.  I doubt if UST will look into making major stadium modifications for this as opposed to finding other venue options, especially if they can figure out a financial gain.

And I'm sure the neighborhood residents object to major stadium modifications.

[SagatagSam]

Remember, the stadium issue is only a problem once every other year, when SJU comes to town.  Other than that game the current stadium handles the crowd those in attendance.  I doubt if UST will look into making major stadium modifications for this as opposed to finding other venue options, especially if they can figure out a financial gain.

And I'm sure the neighborhood residents object to major stadium modifications.

But at what degree do modifications become "major" to the neighborhood residents?  No one is expecting them to build a mini-US Bank Stadium--at least I don't think that's what people would expect.

However, sometimes any modification beyond new paint and regular repairs is seen as "major" in the eyes of residents.

Would VOJ's desire to improve the press box area be considered "major" and, therefore, unacceptable?

[USTBench]

There's some thoughts over at UST that the rivalry is currently too big for O'Shaughnessy. Obviously Target Field isn't a long-term solution to that, but there's some thought that perhaps when the new MLS stadium in St. Paul is ready, that UST might elect to play its home games vs. St. John's there.

It's as much the stadium as it is the neighborhood -- you guys all know that it's hard to handle an influx of 10,000 people in that area, in terms of parking.

In terms of site lines, proximity to campus, and the ability to handle crowds, this might be a good long term solution for UST. Though, I hate the idea of basically having to play SJU either at their place or a neutral location, it's nearly impossible to see/enjoy the game from a pure football standpoint unless you get inside the stadium an hour early. It is getting this way at SJU as well, even though they have much more space to accommodate the influx of people, unless you get in there an hour early and can hold your bladder for 3 hours, you're going to struggle to find a great place to actually see the action.

The other option is building our own version of Cotton Bowl in Monticello.

[jamtod]

There's some thoughts over at UST that the rivalry is currently too big for O'Shaughnessy. Obviously Target Field isn't a long-term solution to that, but there's some thought that perhaps when the new MLS stadium in St. Paul is ready, that UST might elect to play its home games vs. St. John's there.

It's as much the stadium as it is the neighborhood -- you guys all know that it's hard to handle an influx of 10,000 people in that area, in terms of parking.

In terms of site lines, proximity to campus, and the ability to handle crowds, this might be a good long term solution for UST. Though, I hate the idea of basically having to play SJU either at their place or a neutral location, it's nearly impossible to see/enjoy the game from a pure football standpoint unless you get inside the stadium an hour early. It is getting this way at SJU as well, even though they have much more space to accommodate the influx of people, unless you get in there an hour early and can hold your bladder for 3 hours, you're going to struggle to find a great place to actually see the action.

The other option is building our own version of Cotton Bowl in Monticello.

On the UST side last year @ SJU, we had plenty of room. The weather was also kind of crappy in the morning, so that may have kept some folks away.

[Pat Coleman]

However, sometimes any modification beyond new paint and regular repairs is seen as "major" in the eyes of residents.

You could well be right. There's a lot of property value in the area and homeowners surely like it that way.

Would VOJ's desire to improve the press box area be considered "major" and, therefore, unacceptable?

I think it's everyone's desire to improve the press box area. A new press box would have to be built to the modern code and accessibility standards and would open a big can of worms. I believe UST still wants this to happen, but I haven't talked to anyone there about this specifically in almost a year.

[USTBench]

However, sometimes any modification beyond new paint and regular repairs is seen as "major" in the eyes of residents.

You could well be right. There's a lot of property value in the area and homeowners surely like it that way.

Would VOJ's desire to improve the press box area be considered "major" and, therefore, unacceptable?

I think it's everyone's desire to improve the press box area. A new press box would have to be built to the modern code and accessibility standards and would open a big can of worms. I believe UST still wants this to happen, but I haven't talked to anyone there about this specifically in almost a year.

That neighborhood isn't an HOA. I say just do it and let the lawyers figure it out.

[Pat Coleman]

No, but they wield a lot of political power in St. Paul, don't they? That's my impression of how it works.

[57Johnnie]

However, sometimes any modification beyond new paint and regular repairs is seen as "major" in the eyes of residents.

You could well be right. There's a lot of property value in the area and homeowners surely like it that way.

Would VOJ's desire to improve the press box area be considered "major" and, therefore, unacceptable?

I think it's everyone's desire to improve the press box area. A new press box would have to be built to the modern code and accessibility standards and would open a big can of worms. I believe UST still wants this to happen, but I haven't talked to anyone there about this specifically in almost a year.

That neighborhood isn't an HOA. I say just do it and let the lawyers figure it out.

Tommie speak for:  'Screw the peons' 

[miac952]

However, sometimes any modification beyond new paint and regular repairs is seen as "major" in the eyes of residents.

You could well be right. There's a lot of property value in the area and homeowners surely like it that way.

Would VOJ's desire to improve the press box area be considered "major" and, therefore, unacceptable?

I think it's everyone's desire to improve the press box area. A new press box would have to be built to the modern code and accessibility standards and would open a big can of worms. I believe UST still wants this to happen, but I haven't talked to anyone there about this specifically in almost a year.

That neighborhood isn't an HOA. I say just do it and let the lawyers figure it out.

The neighbors lose their minds just about anything. So, I would expect the same for the pressbox and subsequent grandstand updates that would be necessary. There was an uprising over a few tennis courts being added to south campus on a huge swath of land UST owns a few years back. Iv'e never understood this, since nearly all moved into the neighborhood after the college was established as a large University in the 80's. Maybe now we can slip a few things past them since there seems to be such a focus and neighbor warfare around the Ford site plans.

However bad it is with the neighbors though, you can always look to De La Salle and realize it can be worse. All of the residents on the island were gifted their homes, well after the school was established. The poor school wanted to put a football field on campus with a few lights and they almost torpedo'd it about noise and lights. All the while they have a massive rail line running right through the middle of their neighborhood with Northstar trains and some freight. There houses are adjacent to downtown skyscrapers and lighting was an issue.

[faunch]

There's some thoughts over at UST that the rivalry is currently too big for O'Shaughnessy. Obviously Target Field isn't a long-term solution to that, but there's some thought that perhaps when the new MLS stadium in St. Paul is ready, that UST might elect to play its home games vs. St. John's there.

It's as much the stadium as it is the neighborhood -- you guys all know that it's hard to handle an influx of 10,000 people in that area, in terms of parking.

In terms of site lines, proximity to campus, and the ability to handle crowds, this might be a good long term solution for UST. Though, I hate the idea of basically having to play SJU either at their place or a neutral location, it's nearly impossible to see/enjoy the game from a pure football standpoint unless you get inside the stadium an hour early. It is getting this way at SJU as well, even though they have much more space to accommodate the influx of people, unless you get in there an hour early and can hold your bladder for 3 hours, you're going to struggle to find a great place to actually see the action.

The other option is building our own version of Cotton Bowl in Monticello.

On the UST side last year @ SJU, we had plenty of room. The weather was also kind of crappy in the morning, so that may have kept some folks away.

How very nice of SJU to provide U$T fans seating on their side of the field.

[finsleft]

That neighborhood isn't an HOA. I say just do it and let the lawyers figure it out.

Obv

[DuffMan]

That neighborhood isn't an HOA. I say just do it and let the lawyers figure it out.

Obv

Ha ha ha!  +K

[OzJohnnie]

I reckon it's a good thing that UST respond to the magnitude of the rivalry and take it to a location that's appropriate. The campus was not designed for a game like this. Who would ever anticipate that UST would be involved in something so meaningful and popular?

A 20k stadium would be perfect for this game.