FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[art76]

I'm getting ready to head out to the circus,Target Field. Go Johnnies! Score early & score often.

On another note: Art, Old Auggie et al. how does the rest of the MIAC look at this Johnnie- Tommie media circus? I mean when the NY Times does a story on it, that's getting a little out of hand. Do the other MIAC teams look at it as a positive for the conference as a whole or do they just want to puke from all of the hype?

Mostly positive vibe for me. It seems to reinforce the concept of "build it and they will come". The however on it is this, at least for me, when there is a showcase game like this, it would be nice if some of the windfall was distributed throughout the league in some way. I think it would help the MIAC become a better place of "all for one, and one for all". (Please notice I didn't say, or even imply, any kind of "even splitting" amongst the 9 football teams.)

[PurpleReign]

I'm getting ready to head out to the circus,Target Field. Go Johnnies! Score early & score often.

On another note: Art, Old Auggie et al. how does the rest of the MIAC look at this Johnnie- Tommie media circus? I mean when the NY Times does a story on it, that's getting a little out of hand. Do the other MIAC teams look at it as a positive for the conference as a whole or do they just want to puke from all of the hype?

Mostly positive vibe for me. It seems to reinforce the concept of "build it and they will come". The however on it is this, at least for me, when there is a showcase game like this, it would be nice if some of the windfall was distributed throughout the league in some way. I think it would help the MIAC become a better place of "all for one, and one for all". (Please notice I didn't say, or even imply, any kind of "even splitting" amongst the 9 football teams.)

This is capitalism and so let's keep any socialist "spread the wealth around" for, let's say Venezuela or some other particular "group", but not MIAC football.  I would 100% support that UST get's 65% and SJU get's 35% of allocated revenue and vice versa if SJU decided to hold a game at, let's say the new soccer stadium or TCF or the Stearns County Fairgrounds Grandstand aka Linfield.

That's my two "cents."

[art76]

This is capitalism and so let's keep any socialist "spread the wealth around" for, let's say Venezuela or some other particular "group", but not MIAC football.  I would 100% support that UST get's 65% and SJU get's 35% of allocated revenue and vice versa if SJU decided to hold a game at, let's say the new soccer stadium or TCF or the Stearns County Fairgrounds Grandstand aka Linfield.

That's my two "cents."

I am no socialist, you're going to have to trust me on that point. But as a league, it makes more sense to all play in the sandbox together. Being selfish seldom is helpful in maintaining good relationships.

[PurpleReign]

This is capitalism and so let's keep any socialist "spread the wealth around" for, let's say Venezuela or some other particular "group", but not MIAC football.  I would 100% support that UST get's 65% and SJU get's 35% of allocated revenue and vice versa if SJU decided to hold a game at, let's say the new soccer stadium or TCF or the Stearns County Fairgrounds Grandstand aka Linfield.

That's my two "cents."

I am no socialist, you're going to have to trust me on this. But as a league, it makes more sense to all play in the sandbox nicely. Being selfish seldom is helpful in maintaining good relationships.

So then would you send Jackson Erdmann or Ben Alvord or Chris Backes to St. Olaf?  How many players would you be willing to distribute through out the MIAC to level the playing field?  I bet none.  Because you recognize that somebody at SJU took the time to recruit these guys, talk to them, talk to the parents, do evaluations and put in a solid effort to build the team.

[art76]

This is capitalism and so let's keep any socialist "spread the wealth around" for, let's say Venezuela or some other particular "group", but not MIAC football.  I would 100% support that UST get's 65% and SJU get's 35% of allocated revenue and vice versa if SJU decided to hold a game at, let's say the new soccer stadium or TCF or the Stearns County Fairgrounds Grandstand aka Linfield.

That's my two "cents."

I am no socialist, you're going to have to trust me on this. But as a league, it makes more sense to all play in the sandbox nicely. Being selfish seldom is helpful in maintaining good relationships.

So then would you send Jackson Erdmann or Ben Alvord or Chris Backes to St. Olaf?

You seem to be making an assumption that these, or any other players on any other team in the MIAC, make any difference in this line of thinking. Perhaps you cannot see the bigger picture of hanging together so we don't all hang separately. The MIAC, or any other NCAA league, for that matter, depends on its member schools to work together on shared interests. It is my opinion that it benefits all the members of the league to be on the same page in matters such as these.

This may all be moot, as I have seen no evidence that in any way has shown that the MIAC had diddly squat of input in this game. It may have been solely between St. Thomas and the Twins. If anyone knows more, I'd be all ears to hearing what was said and why.

Again, it is my opinion, that the league, the voice for all nine teams, should have had some say about the arrangements - that's all.

[PurpleReign]

This is capitalism and so let's keep any socialist "spread the wealth around" for, let's say Venezuela or some other particular "group", but not MIAC football.  I would 100% support that UST get's 65% and SJU get's 35% of allocated revenue and vice versa if SJU decided to hold a game at, let's say the new soccer stadium or TCF or the Stearns County Fairgrounds Grandstand aka Linfield.

That's my two "cents."

I am no socialist, you're going to have to trust me on this. But as a league, it makes more sense to all play in the sandbox nicely. Being selfish seldom is helpful in maintaining good relationships.

So then would you send Jackson Erdmann or Ben Alvord or Chris Backes to St. Olaf?

You seem to be making an assumption that these, or any other players on any other team in the MIAC, make any difference in this line of thinking. Perhaps you cannot see the bigger picture of hanging together so we don't all hang separately. The MIAC, or any other NCAA league, for that matter, depends on its member schools to work together on shared interests. It is my opinion that it benefits all the members of the league to be on the same page in matters such as these.

This may all be moot, as I have seen no evidence that in any way has shown that the MIAC had diddly squat of input in this game. It may have been solely between St. Thomas and the Twins. If anyone knows more, I'd be all ears to hearing what was said and why.

Again, it is my opinion, that the league, the voice for all nine teams, should have had some say about the arrangements - that's all.

I think the only difference is this discussion is that you favor the collective, while I represent and believe in the efforts of the individual.

[DuffMan]

Can I interject that Art is a Bethel guy, not a Johnnie? 

[PurpleReign]

Can I interject that Art is a Bethel guy, not a Johnnie? 

Now that is interesting and I did not know that.  That adds an entirely new dynamic into the discussion.  Don't come to the Catholics with your hat in hand, we have our own set of issues. 

I am going to leave this as is.  I will let the rest of you run with this in the morning.

[AO]

This may all be moot, as I have seen no evidence that in any way has shown that the MIAC had diddly squat of input in this game. It may have been solely between St. Thomas and the Twins. If anyone knows more, I'd be all ears to hearing what was said and why.

Again, it is my opinion, that the league, the voice for all nine teams, should have had some say about the arrangements - that's all.

McKane was interviewed during halftime and said the big thing the league office did was work on an alcohol waiver for the game since the Twins wanted to sell beer.

Was able to watch the 2nd half since UNW started at noon.  Impressive line play by the Tommies.    A great day for Tommie-Johnnie, the MIAC and D3 football.

[Robert Zimmerman]

Frank, please come back, the SC Times really needs you.

[OzJohnnie]

Well, that was a disappointing game. The Toms came ready to play, that's for sure.

Our offense seemed unable to adjust at all.  This was a surprise. I just listened to audio in the second half, but the first half was either a run up the guts or a long developing pass. Where were the swing passes?  The pitches to get around the corner?  The short pass over the blitz?  It was frustratingly uncreative. Perhaps I'm bein unfair?

The defense in the first half was lucky and in the second half was good.  They spent a lot of time on the field getting worked over but held the Toms to 20 points which was enough to give us a shot at winning.  But the offense never looked threatening.  That's the biggest surprise.

[sjusection105]

Congratulations to the Tommie defense holding SJU to 1 yard rushing- Ouch! and 0-11 on 3rd down- Double Ouch!!

[D O.C.]

Ey! Purple Reign. Come eh.
You snow bounds do what you like as long as LINFIELD gets the vig off the top.

Fairgrounds got roofs not a baseball team shoveling snow the morning of game day.

[sjusection105]

Well, that was a disappointing game. The Toms came ready to play, that's for sure.

Our offense seemed unable to adjust at all.  This was a surprise. I just listened to audio in the second half, but the first half was either a run up the guts or a long developing pass. Where were the swing passes?  The pitches to get around the corner?  The short pass over the blitz?  It was frustratingly uncreative. Perhaps I'm bein unfair?

The defense in the first half was lucky and in the second half was good.  They spent a lot of time on the field getting worked over but held the Toms to 20 points which was enough to give us a shot at winning.  But the offense never looked threatening.  That's the biggest surprise.

The UST overly aggressive defense was ripe for running shovel passes,but nothing attempted. The only thing close was the mini flea-flicker pass back to Erdmann. That should of been the beginning of the keep them honest creative short pass attack, not the end of it.

[Mr.MIAC]

I just got back to my room. I've never seen that many Tommies and Johnnies take over the pubs in downtown Minneapolis. Here are a few initial thoughts:

1) Congrats to the Johnnies for keeping the game uncomfortably close.
2) Target Field was a great venue. It really felt like a DI game, with the play, amenities, attendance, etc.
3) UST's defense was stifling. The offense was pretty sloppy. I probably could have caught that interception in Q4. Some unnecessary penalties.
4) Parks is one hell of an athlete. Roberts is still a little off his game. Our receiving corps is a big question mark.
5) The officiating was all over the place. I saw a number of blatant examples of holds/interference that weren't called.
6) The Johnnie receiver who scored the late touchdown, whilst dragging our back into the end zone from five yards out, is a beast.
7) Let's do this again.