FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Will the J-Club leak 2nd place? Thanks in advance 

I'm sorry I can't help myself today. Someone please take the keyboard away.

J-Club announced second place last year. Heitland, from Coe.

[AO]

UMAC football blog picks Eureka to pull the upset.   

https://uppermidwestfootballcentral.blogspot.com/2017/11/eureka-st-thomas-preview.html?m=1

[bennie]

UMAC football blog picks Eureka to pull the upset.   

https://uppermidwestfootballcentral.blogspot.com/2017/11/eureka-st-thomas-preview.html?m=1

"To add to all this negativity, I will just give you a little taste of who St. Thomas is. They are the mean older brother of the MIAC, who constantly rags on everyone and nobody likes (except for St. Thomas fans)."

Between the comments on the OAC board and this, it has been a pretty entertaining day all the way around!

[MUC57]

bennie

I think you summed it up very well.
Go Johnnies!

[OzJohnnie]

 I finally went and read that thread after your post, bennie.  Thanks.     

[sjusection105]

https://uppermidwestfootballcentral.blogspot.com/2017/11/eureka-st-thomas-preview.html?m=1

There is no love for UST in this piece......
He could have saved the 8 paragraphs and just wrote.....Tommies Suck! 

[miac952]

UMAC football blog picks Eureka to pull the upset.   

https://uppermidwestfootballcentral.blogspot.com/2017/11/eureka-st-thomas-preview.html?m=1

This is delicious. Thanks for sharing

[jamtod]

UMAC football blog picks Eureka to pull the upset.   

https://uppermidwestfootballcentral.blogspot.com/2017/11/eureka-st-thomas-preview.html?m=1

This is delicious. Thanks for sharing

This Tommie hatred is enough to sustain through Saturday, when I will be nourished by another Tommie MONKEY STOMP (or is that term copyrighted by the Johnn1es?)

[OzJohnnie]

Official Monkey Stomp (tm) rules and terminology, including (c) authority and credit.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxwpLdvD6eqQPG_tDAIuCS8PlO9P3SJOTM5HPehmcOU/edit?usp=sharing

[jamtod]

Official Monkey Stomp (tm) rules and terminology, including (c) authority and credit.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxwpLdvD6eqQPG_tDAIuCS8PlO9P3SJOTM5HPehmcOU/edit?usp=sharing

I only see a few of the categories specific to SJU so I think I can call the Hamline game a Quadruple Stompout and the St Olaf game a Quadruple Stompout with a Side of Pie (in reference to the Piesman Trophy award, for an offensive lineman toting the rock into the end zone).

[stanbob]

He might be an a-hole...

Hey, we finally agree on something!!!

He might be an-hole but he's OUR a-hole, as they say. Stopped clock is right once a day Duff, and this is your moment.

Happy I could provide you some entertainment.

I dropped the kids (age 7,5,3) off at my mother in law's house last Saturday afternoon. I recommend doing the same. Getting to watch uninterrupted football was pretty glorious and then I actually got some housework done, so you should do that.

What "football" did you watch last week?

[miac952]

My final thought on academics. I Wil be curious how the new Dougherty school factors into admission standards for UST. Because they won't be enrolling as Freshman, if they choose to go there after 1-2 years at Dougherty, I would assume it isn't part of the freshman class enrollment.

I really, really like the concept of it, given that opportunity and affordability significantly limit some kids coming out of high school.

I was quite squeamish, and still am, when UST quietly started the journey of becoming more selective in their admissions. I don't know where the end point is, but I would guess the shift continues more towards numbers Sr Olaf has. It's nice to see them jumping up but that also makes me skittish because of its limitations. We had a fantastic kid in the neighborhood a few years back that was on pins and needles about getting into UST with a 25 ACT and 3.6 gpa. She got in, but the fact that it was a question mark made me think a bit. I don't know that your community is well served at a certain level of exclusivity.

[Mr.MIAC]

My final thought on academics. I Wil be curious how the new Dougherty school factors into admission standards for UST. Because they won't be enrolling as Freshman, if they choose to go there after 1-2 years at Dougherty, I would assume it isn't part of the freshman class enrollment.

I really, really like the concept of it, given that opportunity and affordability significantly limit some kids coming out of high school.

I was quite squeamish, and still am, when UST quietly started the journey of becoming more selective in their admissions. I don't know where the end point is, but I would guess the shift continues more towards numbers Sr Olaf has. It's nice to see them jumping up but that also makes me skittish because of its limitations. We had a fantastic kid in the neighborhood a few years back that was on pins and needles about getting into UST with a 25 ACT and 3.6 gpa. She got in, but the fact that it was a question mark made me think a bit. I don't know that your community is well served at a certain level of exclusivity.

The median ACT is roughly 27 at present. I've heard the goal is to move it to 31-32. The Dougherty School will allow UST to become a more selective national university while continuing to serve the local community.

[jamtod]

He might be an a-hole...

Hey, we finally agree on something!!!

He might be an-hole but he's OUR a-hole, as they say. Stopped clock is right once a day Duff, and this is your moment.

Happy I could provide you some entertainment.

I dropped the kids (age 7,5,3) off at my mother in law's house last Saturday afternoon. I recommend doing the same. Getting to watch uninterrupted football was pretty glorious and then I actually got some housework done, so you should do that.

What "football" did you watch last week?

I watched St Thomas play, but unfortunately the opposition failed to participate after the opening onside kick. That game was mostly on the background while I also caught parts of the Delaware Valley vs. Widener, Frostburg State vs Salisbury, St John's vs Concordia, CMU vs CWRU, and the end of the Iowa State game. I listened to UMHB vs ETBU for a bit, in hopes that it would remain close but it didn't after a while. Same with Mount Union and JCU. Basically I caught part of a ton of games between two laptops and a Fire TV Stick.

And in reference to your (now deleted) comment about my consumption of Chivas. I wish. My employer would probably frown on that, even though it was a slow day. My whiskey tastes are generally a bit cheaper, tending towards whatever the cheapest bourbon I can find or some [REDACTED] Rye moonshine from my home state.

[OzJohnnie]

My final thought on academics. I Wil be curious how the new Dougherty school factors into admission standards for UST. Because they won't be enrolling as Freshman, if they choose to go there after 1-2 years at Dougherty, I would assume it isn't part of the freshman class enrollment.

I really, really like the concept of it, given that opportunity and affordability significantly limit some kids coming out of high school.

I was quite squeamish, and still am, when UST quietly started the journey of becoming more selective in their admissions. I don't know where the end point is, but I would guess the shift continues more towards numbers Sr Olaf has. It's nice to see them jumping up but that also makes me skittish because of its limitations. We had a fantastic kid in the neighborhood a few years back that was on pins and needles about getting into UST with a 25 ACT and 3.6 gpa. She got in, but the fact that it was a question mark made me think a bit. I don't know that your community is well served at a certain level of exclusivity.

The median ACT is roughly 27 at present. I've heard the goal is to move it to 31-32. The Dougherty School will allow UST to become a more selective national university while continuing to serve the local community.

31 ACT is top 3% of all results.  32 is top 2%.  27 is top 12%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACT_(test)#Score_cumulative_percentages_and_comparison_with_SAT

Of course, BC claims an average ACT of 32 so the target has been set.

http://www.prepscholar.com/act/s/colleges/Boston-College-ACT-scores-GPA

There are about 15.6m undergrads in university each year.  Let's make 30% of them freshman to account for attrition.  2% of 30% of 15.6m is 95,600 freshmen making up the top 2%.

http://howtoedu.org/college-facts/how-many-people-go-to-college-every-year/

The Ivy League accepts about 23k freshmen every year.

https://www.ivycoach.com/2017-ivy-league-admissions-statistics/

Assuming that the Ivy League (not accounting for other elite universities) takes the lion's share of the top 2%, then UST just to have a hope of making an average ACT entry of 32 would need about 60% of their 4700 accepted students to be top 2% (accounting for the longer tail toward the bottom when you want the average to be only 4 points off the max score of 36).

http://www.acceptancerate.com/minnesota

This means that of the remaining 75k of top 2% freshmen in the USA each year (after the Ivy League takes theirs - ignoring other elite universities for the moment) that means UST must attract 4700 * .6 = 2800 of the still uncommitted top 2%, or nearly 4% of them.  Over BC.  Over Stanford.  Over MIT.  Over Berkeley.  And on and on.

It seems to me there are a whole lot of schools claiming the lion's share of a very small pie.

(Of course, when UST's acceptance rate gets somewhere more selective than 86% (otherwise known as anyone who can breath and pay the tuition bill) then we'll see about them getting all elite.  Frickin' ridiculous, but entertaining, afternoon.)