FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Mr.MIAC]

Really? Is this thing rigged? By what measure does Fasching even come close Caruso's coaching success this year?

I'll take a stab at it. They lost the same number of games in the regular season and Fasching's team only lost to Caruso's by only 3 points (which technically is the home field advantage if you assume that applied to Target Field). That's pretty close.

You are lumping conference and non conference games, but I would consider the 'regular' season to be conference games since they all have the same opponents. So from that aspect, St. Thomas was undefeated and St. John's had 1 loss. Including non conference games would be relevant only if the Tommies and Johnnies played the same teams, but they didn't. St. Thomas only loss came to a much tougher team in Stout than either of the teams that St. John's played. But the head-to-head game was close on the score board even though St. Thomas dominated in the other stats. And yes, I know, the only stat that really counts is the final score. IMO since St. Thomas beat St. John's then Caruso should have the tie breaker.

That award is already determined. It's called the Conference Champion and it's only based on conference performance. Coach of the year is a bit more subjective. St Thomas basically did what it was expected to do. St John's also. Who actually overachieved in the MIAC?

I'm not sure number of wins is the best criterion for coach of the year. If you believe all the disgruntled Johnnies, SJU's coaching (especially its play calling) left a lot to be desired this year. They weren't especially dominant against MIAC opponents. On the other hand, Caruso and crew were coaching machines this year. UST was truly dominant in its games against MIAC opponents, including SJU (even if the final score didn't reflect the level of dominance).   

[Retired Old Rat]

Congratulations to Coach Fashing on a well deserved MIAC coach of the year award.

[DuffMan]

IIRC, it's voted on by coaches.  St. Glenn needs to make more friends with his peers. 

[exauggie]

How is the team voted on? 
Congrats to all the Auggie players who made the teams.  Thought a guy or two got ripped off but I have no idea if their own coaches have to nominate or how the guys are selected.
If my Auggies could build a little depth they might be okay.  Looks like they had some decent individual talent.
Good luck to St. Thomas this weekend. Represent the conference well.

[sjusection105]

IIRC, it's voted on by coaches. St. Glenn needs to make more friends with his peers. 

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a BINGO!

[retagent]

Molitor was Manager of the Year in the AL. I guess that's bogus as well?

[OldAuggie]

How is the team voted on? 
Congrats to all the Auggie players who made the teams.  Thought a guy or two got ripped off but I have no idea if their own coaches have to nominate or how the guys are selected.
If my Auggies could build a little depth they might be okay.  Looks like they had some decent individual talent.
Good luck to St. Thomas this weekend. Represent the conference well.

+k exauggie! I agree, depth is the issue.

[sfury]

Jeez, relax over the coaching award. From the MIAC site:

Available records are incomplete, but Gagliardi received the honor that now carries his name at least 14 times in his career, most recently in 2009 after his 27th MIAC championship. He also earned the conference's Coach-of-the-Year award in 1962, 1963, 1965, 1976, 1982, 1985, 1991, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2003 and 2005.

Which means. Gagliardi didn't win the award when, say, he led the highest-scoring team in NCAA history to an unbeaten conference record in 1993. Didn't get it while going unbeaten in conference in 1996. Didn't get it while going unbeaten in the conference in 2002 (with a backup QB). Didn't win it in 1977 after completing a third straight unbeaten conference season. Frankly, given how superior the Tommies' athletes are -- as we've heard so often on here -- it's sort of an outrage Fasching had to share it with a guy who only beat the Johnnies by 3 points.

[faunch]

IIRC, it's voted on by coaches.  St. Glenn needs to make more friends with his peers. 

isn't it a 9 team league...so Horan got one or two and Fasc and GC split the rest? I believe that sju has been out worked and out coached but to have about half of your peers not respect your success must be tough to swallow. I'd love a conference championship but if I were a coach I'd like to be recognized by my peers too. Would suck to share coach of the year w a guy you beat...someone once told me that actions had consequences. #onnsidekick #fakepunt #fakextrapoints

[OldAuggie]

How is the team voted on? 
Congrats to all the Auggie players who made the teams.  Thought a guy or two got ripped off but I have no idea if their own coaches have to nominate or how the guys are selected.
If my Auggies could build a little depth they might be okay.  Looks like they had some decent individual talent.
Good luck to St. Thomas this weekend. Represent the conference well.

First let me also say congrats to all of the Auggies that earned MIAC awards this year. Nice job and we are all looking forward to next year!

I have to say that Quinn Frisell absolutely deserved a higher team than Honorable mention. Yes, this makes you wonder who votes for these things and if they are afraid of blow-back from the "Gucci" teams if they vote for anyone outside SJU and UST. Look at the stats, Frisell led the league in yds per game and TD's. His WR Heenie who deserves his award, get's 1st team but his QB gets HM? Well the good news: I expect Frisell to come out firing next year with something to prove. I am sure St. Goof Ball bullies the voters same as he bullies the referees. #joke

[miac952]

How is the team voted on? 
Congrats to all the Auggie players who made the teams.  Thought a guy or two got ripped off but I have no idea if their own coaches have to nominate or how the guys are selected.
If my Auggies could build a little depth they might be okay.  Looks like they had some decent individual talent.
Good luck to St. Thomas this weekend. Represent the conference well.

First let me also say congrats to all of the Auggies that earned MIAC awards this year. Nice job and we are all looking forward to next year!

I have to say that Quinn Frisell absolutely deserved a higher team than Honorable mention. Yes, this makes you wonder who votes for these things and if they are afraid of blow-back from the "Gucci" teams if they vote for anyone outside SJU and UST. Look at the stats, Frisell led the league in yds per game and TD's. His WR Heenie who deserves his award, get's 1st team but his QB gets HM? Well the good news: I expect Frisell to come out firing next year with something to prove. I am sure St. Goof Ball bullies the voters same as he bullies the referees. #joke

Come back down to earth. A number of metrics beyond total yards matter for QB's. And he trails the 3 QB's in front of him in literally every other metric when looking at conference stats. The efficiency numbers really aren't even close. He threw 8 picks in conference games. If it was only total yards the Auggie qb would be All conference every year.

I'm pretty sure coaches aren't thinking of what Glenn will say abou their vote. They get input from their coordinators and assistants who watch the film and submit their votes. There isn't some grand conspiracy to put A Hamline QB in front of an auggie QB.In some capacity teams like SJU and UST don't get enough guys on these teams. Weber should have been a first teamer on defense but you can't put every LB on there. Frisell is exactly where he should be. If Auggie wants more kids on all conference they might want to start by beating teams like St Olaf first.

[Tom Thumb]

IIRC, it's voted on by coaches.  St. Glenn needs to make more friends with his peers. 

isn't it a 9 team league...so Horan got one or two and Fasc and GC split the rest? I believe that sju has been out worked and out coached but to have about half of your peers not respect your success must be tough to swallow. I'd love a conference championship but if I were a coach I'd like to be recognized by my peers too. Would suck to share coach of the year w a guy you beat...someone once told me that actions had consequences. #onnsidekick #fakepunt #fakextrapoints

Well, he's won the award six times in the past eight years so I'm sure his peers have a little respect for what he's done with the program. However, I doubt Caruso spends time worrying about what they think of him anyways. It doesn't seem like something he would waste his energy worrying about.

[Tom Thumb]

Interesting article on the MIAC: https://www.minnpost.com/sports/2017/11/miac-without-mercy-can-minnesota-intercollegiate-athletic-conference-solve-its-footba

[DuffMan]

Interesting article on the MIAC: https://www.minnpost.com/sports/2017/11/miac-without-mercy-can-minnesota-intercollegiate-athletic-conference-solve-its-footba

I am dumber for having read Mr. Joel Stegner's comment.

[USTBench]

Interesting article on the MIAC: https://www.minnpost.com/sports/2017/11/miac-without-mercy-can-minnesota-intercollegiate-athletic-conference-solve-its-footba

I am dumber for having read Mr. Joel Stegner's comment.

Haha, I was just going to say something similar. This commonly occurs on the Star Trib website as well. People with very little understanding with how the MIAC and Division III works opining on things that they really don't know anything about.

I want to just post on every article about UST: "ENROLLMENT NUMBERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH COMPETITIVENESS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL. COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAMS ONLY PULL ATHLETES OUT OF THE STUDENT BODY ON THE RAREST OF OCCASIONS."