FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[MiacMan]

An interesting note is the impact the volunteer O-line assistant coach Mike Magnuson(SJU 90) is having getting high quality kids from CDH to become Johnnies. I understand he was a volunteer coach at CDH prior to his time with SJU the past two seasons.Currently two  O-line starters, a RB who will be a significant contributor and the starting FS are all CDH kids.

Mags is a great guy and deserves some recognition for being instrumental in landing Max Jackson and Dan Greenheck, two great players for SJ2. This year (actually the last 2yrs) however, UST got the better of the CDH prospects (at least on paper, time will tell).

[jamtod]

They are a not very good NAIA team.

Better or worse than Scholastica?

[MiacMan]

They are a not very good NAIA team.

Better or worse than Scholastica?

Significantly better. They have athletic scholarships.

[57Johnnie]

They are a not very good NAIA team.

Better or worse than Scholastica?

Significantly better. They have athletic scholarships.

Apparently you didn't see Sister Mary Jo who went to St. Scholastically throw out the first pitch at a White Sox game Saturday night.   

[jamtod]

They are a not very good NAIA team.

Better or worse than Scholastica?

Significantly better. They have athletic scholarships.

Apparently you didn't see Sister Mary Jo who went to St. Scholastically throw out the first pitch at a White Sox game Saturday night.   

Maybe she could have helped out there football team last year.

[DuffMan]

Maybe she could have helped out there football team last year.

I don't think it would have hurt them. 

[MiacMan]

FYI, I may have used the word "significantly" very loosely. While they do offer some athletic/football scholarships, my best guess is that the word "slightly" should be substituted for "significantly". We'll soon see!

[jamtod]

FYI, I may have used the word "significantly" very loosely. While they do offer some athletic/football scholarships, my best guess is that the word "slightly" should be substituted for "significantly". We'll soon see!

Slightly seems more accurate, if even that might be a stretch. A 2-8 NAIA team isn't great and even with scholarships, NAIA isn't really a step above D3 at all. If anything, the partial scholarships are balanced out by other types of aid available.
Trinity plays Presentation in week 1 (this Saturday) so maybe we'll get some sort of comparison by way of the super-transitive property.

[Mr.MIAC]

FYI, I may have used the word "significantly" very loosely. While they do offer some athletic/football scholarships, my best guess is that the word "slightly" should be substituted for "significantly". We'll soon see!

Slightly seems more accurate, if even that might be a stretch. A 2-8 NAIA team isn't great and even with scholarships, NAIA isn't really a step above D3 at all. If anything, the partial scholarships are balanced out by other types of aid available.
Trinity plays Presentation in week 1 (this Saturday) so maybe we'll get some sort of comparison by way of the super-transitive property.

The "other types of aid" thing is interesting, particularly when it comes to the MIAC. I might be totally naive on how things work with aid for MIAC athletes. Most schools seem to bang on about how they're looking for "student athletes."

That being said, one of my closest friends has a rising senior son who's being recruited by a number of D1, D2, and D3 schools, including some in the MIAC. Apparently he's one of the best players in his mid-size, upper-Midwest high school. Neither his GPA nor his ACT scores are particularly stellar. His family doesn't have much of any financial need. I'm sure they're well within the top 1% category. In short, I can't see what sort of aid their son would qualify for outside athletic scholarships.

According to my buddy, most D3 recruiters (including some in the MIAC) have suggested that non-athletic scholarships could be made available for his son. What do you think is going on here? Is this common? Awhile back another friend shared a similar story, but in this case it's clearer that the recruit wouldn't qualify for academic and/or need-based aid.

[jamtod]

The "other types of aid" thing is interesting, particularly when it comes to the MIAC. I might be totally naive on how things work with aid for MIAC athletes. Most schools seem to bang on about how they're looking for "student athletes."

That being said, one of my closest friends has a rising senior son who's being recruited by a number of D1, D2, and D3 schools, including some in the MIAC. Apparently he's one of the best players in his mid-size, upper-Midwest high school. Neither his GPA nor his ACT scores are particularly stellar. His family doesn't have much of any financial need. I'm sure they're well within the top 1% category. In short, I can't see what sort of aid their son would qualify for outside athletic scholarships.

According to my buddy, most D3 recruiters (including some in the MIAC) have suggested that non-athletic scholarships could be made available for his son. What do you think is going on here? Is this common? Awhile back another friend shared a similar story, but in this case it's clearer that the recruit wouldn't qualify for academic and/or need-based aid.

Non-sports extracurriculars or something else that pads his resume beyond just GPA/ACT?
At some schools, basically anybody who has the track record to get admitted to the school is going to qualify for some level of financial aid.

[Mr.MIAC]

The "other types of aid" thing is interesting, particularly when it comes to the MIAC. I might be totally naive on how things work with aid for MIAC athletes. Most schools seem to bang on about how they're looking for "student athletes."

That being said, one of my closest friends has a rising senior son who's being recruited by a number of D1, D2, and D3 schools, including some in the MIAC. Apparently he's one of the best players in his mid-size, upper-Midwest high school. Neither his GPA nor his ACT scores are particularly stellar. His family doesn't have much of any financial need. I'm sure they're well within the top 1% category. In short, I can't see what sort of aid their son would qualify for outside athletic scholarships.

According to my buddy, most D3 recruiters (including some in the MIAC) have suggested that non-athletic scholarships could be made available for his son. What do you think is going on here? Is this common? Awhile back another friend shared a similar story, but in this case it's clearer that the recruit wouldn't qualify for academic and/or need-based aid.

Non-sports extracurriculars or something else that pads his resume beyond just GPA/ACT?
At some schools, basically anybody who has the track record to get admitted to the school is going to qualify for some level of financial aid.

I get that part, but we're not talking about football programs poorly disguised as institutions of higher learning (e.g. MUC). Without naming names, many folks on this board are alums of the MIAC schools he mentioned. 

I don't think he has much in the way of extracurriculars outside of football. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but the kid's life revolves around athletics. 

[MUC57]

Reverend MIAC

I wouldn't call Mount Union a football program poorly disguised as an institution of higher learning. That statement just shows your stupidity and lack of information. Academics and athletics are not mutually exclusive. Besides the usual 4 year undergraduate degree programs, Mount has several Master degree programs as well as a recently added PhD program. All are fully accredited and have been recognized around the country as outstanding.
If being a great football power means you aren't a quality academic school, it's nice to be in the company of Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Michigan, .............!
Go Raiders. ☠🏈

[57Johnnie]

Reverend MIAC

I wouldn't call Mount Union a football program poorly disguised as an institution of higher learning. That statement just shows your stupidity and lack of information. Academics and athletics are not mutually exclusive. Besides the usual 4 year undergraduate degree programs, Mount has several Master degree programs as well as a recently added PhD program. All are fully accredited and have been recognized around the country as outstanding.
If being a great football power means you aren't a quality academic school, it's nice to be in the company of Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Michigan, .............!
Go Raiders. ☠🏈

Just a case of: If you can't beat em, trash em!

[jamtod]

Reverend MIAC

I wouldn't call Mount Union a football program poorly disguised as an institution of higher learning. That statement just shows your stupidity and lack of information. Academics and athletics are not mutually exclusive. Besides the usual 4 year undergraduate degree programs, Mount has several Master degree programs as well as a recently added PhD program. All are fully accredited and have been recognized around the country as outstanding.
If being a great football power means you aren't a quality academic school, it's nice to be in the company of Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Michigan, .............!
Go Raiders. ☠🏈

Just a case of: If you can't beat em, trash em!

Y'all would kind of be the experts on that the last several years, eh?

[57Johnnie]

Reverend MIAC

I wouldn't call Mount Union a football program poorly disguised as an institution of higher learning. That statement just shows your stupidity and lack of information. Academics and athletics are not mutually exclusive. Besides the usual 4 year undergraduate degree programs, Mount has several Master degree programs as well as a recently added PhD program. All are fully accredited and have been recognized around the country as outstanding.
If being a great football power means you aren't a quality academic school, it's nice to be in the company of Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Michigan, .............!
Go Raiders. ☠🏈

Just a case of: If you can't beat em, trash em!

Y'all would kind of be the experts on that the last several years, eh?

I do not ever remember a Johnnie saying UST was a football program disguised as an institution of higher learning. We can have fun within limits.