FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OzJohnnie]

I'm pretty sure you're right, however, that the MIAC picked the worst, most unworkable solution possible so that their real intent seems a better decision in the end.

Even for your rhetorical exercise here, please don't put words into my mouth.

My apologies.

[BDB]

Back to the student athletes which D3 parades. At a Stout booster lunch a few years ago an older guy complained about the music played at games.  The coach was pissed and commented that these were college games played by college kids. It's their game and their music. 

So again, I wonder if the conference asked any of them?

The players I mean. Did the MIAC ask any of them what they thought?

[OzJohnnie]

I would love to hear more about these brilliant alternative solutions that you keep yammering about with your MIAC conspiracy theory. I am sure they are much better and easier than shifting the times on a couple football games each year, an action which apparently is causing great heartache and strife for all involved.

Again, my apologies.  I don't want to step on your toes in the yammering department.

As to less intrusive alternatives to last day shifts in game times to inferior localities, they aren't difficult to come up with if you put your mind to it.  Perhaps a challenge but give it the old college try and see how it goes.  As a pump primer, perhaps read this or this.  Let us know what you come up with.

[Pat Coleman]

It's their game. Remember that? Anybody ask them? I doubt it.

Ehhh ... I hear what you're getting at, but it's not. That would be a pickup game or an intramural game. They're on the field but the institutions are liable, and those institutions joined a conference and ceded some power to the group in that transaction.

[jamtod]

I would love to hear more about these brilliant alternative solutions that you keep yammering about with your MIAC conspiracy theory. I am sure they are much better and easier than shifting the times on a couple football games each year, an action which apparently is causing great heartache and strife for all involved.

Again, my apologies.  I don't want to step on your toes in the yammering department.

As to less intrusive alternatives to last day shifts in game times to inferior localities, they aren't difficult to come up with if you put your mind to it.  Perhaps a challenge but give it the old college try and see how it goes.  As a pump primer, perhaps read this or this.  Let us know what you come up with.

My apologies for missing your suggestions which surely were never considered by the actual experts, trainers, etc that made this decision.

[BDB]

It's their game. Remember that? Anybody ask them? I doubt it.

Ehhh ... I hear what you're getting at, but it's not. That would be a pickup game or an intramural game. They're on the field but the institutions are liable, and those institutions joined a conference and ceded some power to the group in that transaction.

Agreed and point well made. Just think while the players are the focus their opinions should be considered too.

[bennie]

Well, it is supposed to be in the 60's and partly cloudy on the coast tomorrow. With the game delay I guess I will head on over. I went over last weekend and saw a family of whales and a naked guy on the beach. Who knows what tomorrow will bring!

[Pat Coleman]

It's their game. Remember that? Anybody ask them? I doubt it.

Ehhh ... I hear what you're getting at, but it's not. That would be a pickup game or an intramural game. They're on the field but the institutions are liable, and those institutions joined a conference and ceded some power to the group in that transaction.

Agreed and point well made. Just think while the players are the focus their opinions should be conducted too.

You're assuming that they weren't -- but even if they weren't, the medical stuff trumps all, just like it did with the changes in preseason practice a couple years ago. That sort of thing is really convincing for the powers that be.

[OzJohnnie]

My apologies for missing your suggestions which surely were never considered by the actual experts, trainers, etc that made this decision.

Were they considered?  Are they expert?

[BDB]

I'm assuming they were not polled, because I'll bet if you lined up all the Johnnie and Gustie team members and asked them they would say that they weren't asked. 

[Pat Coleman]

I'm assuming they were not polled, because I'll bet if you lined up all the Johnnie and Gustie team members and asked them they would say that they weren't asked.

Surely they aren't going to ask every student-athlete in every instance where a game might be moved because that's pretty cumbersome. Ten contests for tomorrow were moved. The conference could have solicited feedback from the SAAC when making the policy, but even so, something done for the safety of the student-athlete doesn't have to be ratified by the student-athlete.

[Mr.MIAC]

I'm assuming they were not polled, because I'll bet if you lined up all the Johnnie and Gustie team members and asked them they would say that they weren't asked.

Surely they aren't going to ask every student-athlete in every instance where a game might be moved because that's pretty cumbersome. Ten contests for tomorrow were moved. The conference could have solicited feedback from the SAAC when making the policy, but even so, something done for the safety of the student-athlete doesn't have to be ratified by the student-athlete.

Some people enjoy their viewing pleasure...nothing else matters.

[OldAuggie]

Another better answer, night games. Let's say that playing hot is a sudden new danger, a point not proven but pretend it is. Then schedule all MIAC games for night play.  Having the Gusties and a few other teams play at the local high school every week will have a far smaller impact than moving the game to the same high school with a day to go.

I'm sure that after a year of this, you probably will see some schools make those decisions. The fact that only Hamline, SJU and UST have lights right now is going to slow this down, however.

Doesn't Auggie have lights? Swear I remember going to an Auggie / SJU game under the lights years ago when Hvistendahl was nearing that receiving record.

they used to...think i watched the johnnies there at night once

Yes, the lights are still in place at Edor Nelson Field and that is why we moved the game to 10AM on Saturday.

[OzJohnnie]

Some people enjoy their viewing pleasure...nothing else matters.

Surely you must realise that your repeated effort to paint any questioning of MIAC policy decisions as the base machinations of self-interested player abusers is absurd.

[BDB]

I'm assuming they were not polled, because I'll bet if you lined up all the Johnnie and Gustie team members and asked them they would say that they weren't asked.

Surely they aren't going to ask every student-athlete in every instance where a game might be moved because that's pretty cumbersome. Ten contests for tomorrow were moved. The conference could have solicited feedback from the SAAC when making the policy, but even so, something done for the safety of the student-athlete doesn't have to be ratified by the student-athlete.

Oh Pat stop it.  Listen, the last guy in the world I would debate D3 sports with is you. As a businessman, I respect what you have accomplished here. People that enjoy these sites that don't realize how much it took/takes to make them work are not in my world. I know better.

Yes, I get overall ability of the institutions to run the show. My point was that while the concern was over the players, that I doubted that the players would agree.