FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[art76]

New Top 25 is Up
#4 SJU
#7 UST
#25 Bethel
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2018/week9

105 - you just beat me to the punch - BU finally makes it into the top 25.

[OzJohnnie]

New Top 25 is Up
#4 SJU
#7 UST
#25 Bethel
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2018/week9

BU gets some justice, which is nice to see.  Hopefully they play as they should against Augsburg and then we get another big game to finish the year.

Also, Frostburg is falling back just a couple points but still close and you can now throw a blanket over 3rd to 6th, with just 18 points separating UWW from Brockport and Frostburg is just a further 18 points behind UWW.  3rd to 6th could all change based on the strength (or lack thereof) of the expected victories for these teams.  A very tight packing of teams there.

[Pat Coleman]

I think the incremental points, those little shifts up there, are going to UWW. Someone listed them as No. 2 this week, even.

[OzJohnnie]

I think the incremental points, those little shifts up there, are going to UWW. Someone listed them as No. 2 this week, even.

Obviously you have the terminally insane casting votes.

It's so close, though, that the little tiny shifts which usually make no difference are actually relevant.  A little intrigue and extra excitement for the poll which is normally fairly settled this time of year.

Speaking of normally settled, your voters had their work cut out for them this weekend with so many upsets and unexpectedly close games.  I would expect that by the 8th week the top 25 has largely fallen into a pattern and is predictable.  But fully a third of the teams forced voters to think about things a little more deeply.

[Pat Coleman]

Makes it a little more fun, for sure. We had a couple of weeks this year where no teams entered/left the poll, so this makes it interesting.

[jamtod]

Another question. How is it that UST seems to have a hyped up headline on the front page of d3football.com every Sunday when the top 25 selectors are considering selecting?  I'm not accusing Pat or anyone else of a pro-Tommie conspiracy but instead suspect there's some sort submission process which gets your stories selected and posted by the site's content engine.  And the Tommie program has that process tuned to within an inch of its life.

Observe the Sunday front page for a couple weeks and you'll see that the other top programs let their play on the field do the talking for them. 

I talked to the UST athletic department and they informed that they pay thousands of extra dollars (U$T after all) to get extra press coverage to ensure that they remain firmly entrenched at the front of your (yes, you personally Oz) mind. I also talked to a psychologist friend and he informed me that they are considering an entry for Tommie Derangement Syndrome in the updated DSM. Perhaps you can be a case study subject for researchers.

[OzJohnnie]

[D O.C.]

A crank.
Is this Facebook now?

[DustySJU]

Chew on this one...
https://usatodayhss.com/2018/minn-football-players-family-turns-to-lawyer-gofundme-to-fight-suspension

Hmm... that's interesting. With substantive penalties and no means of appeal or review it seems to me there's a pretty bad lack of due process.  Despite the fact that the rules state officials' decisions are final, I feel that is more for things like a holding penalty not a four-game suspension which can be meted out after the match with film review and player injury assessments, etc.


It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

Wowza!  Now that's a pretty chippy hit. I think I'd take that one off the low light reel.

[USTBench]

Chew on this one...
https://usatodayhss.com/2018/minn-football-players-family-turns-to-lawyer-gofundme-to-fight-suspension

Hmm... that's interesting. With substantive penalties and no means of appeal or review it seems to me there's a pretty bad lack of due process.  Despite the fact that the rules state officials' decisions are final, I feel that is more for things like a holding penalty not a four-game suspension which can be meted out after the match with film review and player injury assessments, etc.


It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

Wowza!  Now that's a pretty chippy hit. I think I'd take that one off the low light reel.

I think the hit was unnecessary and cheap and probably worthy of a 15 yard penalty or perhaps being shown the door for the remainder of the game, but not four games. But then he put it on his Hudl page, so I think he should be suspended until the end of time.

[DuffMan]

But then he put it on his Hudl page, so I think he should be suspended until the end of time.

+K for that. 

I'm glad Hudl didn't exist in our day.  Heck, I'm glad social media didn't exist back then.

[MiacMan]

Chew on this one...
https://usatodayhss.com/2018/minn-football-players-family-turns-to-lawyer-gofundme-to-fight-suspension

Hmm... that's interesting. With substantive penalties and no means of appeal or review it seems to me there's a pretty bad lack of due process.  Despite the fact that the rules state officials' decisions are final, I feel that is more for things like a holding penalty not a four-game suspension which can be meted out after the match with film review and player injury assessments, etc.


It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

Wowza!  Now that's a pretty chippy hit. I think I'd take that one off the low light reel.

I think the hit was unnecessary and cheap and probably worthy of a 15 yard penalty or perhaps being shown the door for the remainder of the game, but not four games. But then he put it on his Hudl page, so I think he should be suspended until the end of time.

Totally agree with you guys. Pretty cheap hit. Lesson should also be, though, "keep your head on a swivel" There will always be some jack-wagon out there just looking to light someone up whose not paying attention.

[hazzben]

But then he put it on his Hudl page, so I think he should be suspended until the end of time.

+K for that. 

I'm glad Hudl didn't exist in our day.  Heck, I'm glad social media didn't exist back then.

Yeah, you put it on your Hudl page as a "look what I can do college coaches" and you lose all credibility for your appeal.

It does highlight how much football has changed. 20 years ago, blind side blocks like this were fairly common and would rarely (ever??) draw a flag. This one was cheap, what I have a problem with is blind side blocks that are actually a part of the play and springing a teammate for a bigger gain. As long as a guy doesn't go above the shoulders, those kinds of blocks are part of the game. Keep your head on a swivel young man 

[faunch]

Chew on this one...
https://usatodayhss.com/2018/minn-football-players-family-turns-to-lawyer-gofundme-to-fight-suspension

Hmm... that's interesting. With substantive penalties and no means of appeal or review it seems to me there's a pretty bad lack of due process.  Despite the fact that the rules state officials' decisions are final, I feel that is more for things like a holding penalty not a four-game suspension which can be meted out after the match with film review and player injury assessments, etc.


It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

Wowza!  Now that's a pretty chippy hit. I think I'd take that one off the low light reel.

I think the hit was unnecessary and cheap and probably worthy of a 15 yard penalty or perhaps being shown the door for the remainder of the game, but not four games. But then he put it on his Hudl page, so I think he should be suspended until the end of time.

I've heard that this was his second suspension this season...first one was possibly a kick to the head of an opponent.
Football is a game of controlled agression...key word is control!

[MIAC23]

Chew on this one...
https://usatodayhss.com/2018/minn-football-players-family-turns-to-lawyer-gofundme-to-fight-suspension

Hmm... that's interesting. With substantive penalties and no means of appeal or review it seems to me there's a pretty bad lack of due process.  Despite the fact that the rules state officials' decisions are final, I feel that is more for things like a holding penalty not a four-game suspension which can be meted out after the match with film review and player injury assessments, etc.


It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

Wowza!  Now that's a pretty chippy hit. I think I'd take that one off the low light reel.

I think the hit was unnecessary and cheap and probably worthy of a 15 yard penalty or perhaps being shown the door for the remainder of the game, but not four games. But then he put it on his Hudl page, so I think he should be suspended until the end of time.

I've heard that this was his second suspension this season...first one was possibly a kick to the head of an opponent.
Football is a game of controlled agression...key word is control!

If true that this is a second offense, then I think the four games is warranted. Very cheap hit, which the sole purpose appears is to injure. Blind-side blocks are still legal in high school, the only thing is you have to lead with your hands and can't touch the head.