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[Retired Old Rat]

semi-permanent when UST hosts the game, or is SJU willing to go in on a permanent neutral site setting going forward?

Uhhh, no way.

When hell freezes over.

[Retired Old Rat]

semi-permanent when UST hosts the game, or is SJU willing to go in on a permanent neutral site setting going forward?

Pitt State & NW Mizz St had a similar setup with Arrowhead stadium for a while.

Definitely easier to seat 15k+ peeps ... but I think you lose something if you never have it on either campus anymore.

Isn't it about time for some permanent seating upgrades at Clemens?

Why add permanent seeds for one game every other year?  The temporary seating seems to work well.

[sjusection105]

semi-permanent when UST hosts the game, or is SJU willing to go in on a permanent neutral site setting going forward?

Uhhh, no way.

When hell freezes over.

The Target Field experiment was enough. No more!
I certainly hope that SJU administration realize how they greased the palms of UST. UST had to be smiling all the way to the bank. Not having to staff the event & cashing the check from the Twins was pretty clever for UST. I can't see SJU doing that again.

[faunch]

Just an FYI,

As I speculated in a post a couple of months ago, I have now verified from a very reliable source that next years 2019 Tommie/Johnnie Game will take place in Allianz Stadium on Snelling and 94. It will be the first football game to take place in that stadium. Look for it to be officially announced shortly after the first of the year.

I'm surprised the MNUFC / Allianz Stadium people would agree to play football on their brand new grass surface. A football game played on a cold, rain soaked October day could do quite a bit of damage.

[BDB]

BDB will be visiting the UST campus for the first time this Sunday for a dance competition that my daughter is taking part in. She's on a participating college dance team.

https://stthomas.campuslabs.com/engage/event/2835211

Schoenecker Arena which I suppose is the main basketball gym.

I do have an SJU hoodie that a friend I do business with gave me. Maybe I should wear that and see how it goes?   

[RoyalsFan]

Just an FYI,

As I speculated in a post a couple of months ago, I have now verified from a very reliable source that next years 2019 Tommie/Johnnie Game will take place in Allianz Stadium on Snelling and 94. It will be the first football game to take place in that stadium. Look for it to be officially announced shortly after the first of the year.

Nice.  The Target Field thing was cool but this is infinitely better than shoehorning a football field into a baseball stadium.

Agreed. That was cool for a one-time thing. This seems like it could be a semi-permanent solution for this particular game. I'm looking forward to it.

semi-permanent when UST hosts the game, or is SJU willing to go in on a permanent neutral site setting going forward?

Pitt State & NW Mizz St had a similar setup with Arrowhead stadium for a while.

Definitely easier to seat 15k+ peeps ... but I think you lose something if you never have it on either campus anymore.

Technically 2017 was not a neutral site game. U$T counted it as a home game. I don't believe SJU has any interest playing away from the "Natural Bowl."

Technically it was a neutral site. Since neither team never played on that site before, how can it not be a neutral site? Every game has a designated home/visitor. So according to you, the NFL games in London are not neutral sites because they have a designated home team? 

[OzJohnnie]

Even when the game is played on the UST campus it isn't neutral venue.

#thejohnniearmytravels

[HScoach]

Different UMHB team than what UST faced last year I realize, but what UST struggled with was the Cru's athleticism on defense. Parks had some trouble running the ball and the Cru had 6 sacks and 14 TFLs. SJU's saving grace might be that they have a smaller and more athletic offensive line, a better QB (than UST had last year) and better WRs (than UST had last year).

On the flipside, UST more than held their own on defense. The Cru offensive line were definitely not equipped to handle UST's playmakers on defense and UST was in their backfield all day. I don't think UMHB did anything fancy on offense that I recall. A lot of read/option and getting the ball out as quickly as possible on passing plays. But UST finished with 7 sacks and 15 TFLs, so many of UMHB's plays didn't have much of a chance to develop. I did not walk away with a good impression of the Cru's offensive line.

That sounds very similar to Mount against MHB last year.  Both defenses completely overwhelmed the offensive lines.  Neither QB had much time to throw, the difference ended up being Mount's QB either being cool enough (or dumb enough) to chuck it anyway and Mount's receivers made the play.

MHB's speed on defense is impressive.   One of the few teams that I've seen faster than Mount.

[OzJohnnie]

For some perusing...

UHMB stats: http://stats.ncaa.org/teams/450417

SJU stats: http://stats.ncaa.org/teams/450344


UHMB dominate the national stats to a scary degree.  The question is: have they padded them in a conference of cream puffs by building a huge program in a minnow pond or are they insanely dominant? We'll find out soon enough.

[HScoach]

For some perusing...

UHMB stats: http://stats.ncaa.org/teams/450417

SJU stats: http://stats.ncaa.org/teams/450344


UHMB dominate the national stats to a scary degree.  The question is: have they padded them in a conference of cream puffs by building a huge program in a minnow pond or are they insanely dominant? We'll find out soon enough.

I am confident in thinking their defensive stats are legit.  The offensive ones are built on the back of drilling below average teams.  MHB has the penchant for burying teams by 70 if they can which inflates the scoring higher than it actually should be.

[RoyalsFan]

Would love to see SJU get the W.  Not as much as I'd like to see BU's run continue, but still.  BU at SJU on the 8th would be incredible.

I'll check back for your post about Bethel knocking off UWW.

A week and two big road wins away from this being reality, but man ...

I'd assume it could rival the atmosphere in 2003 when Gags got the record and Kirchoff got the ambulance. That day was small college football Valhalla

Was that the same game we intercepted a pass in front of the SJU bench and they gave Elliot simultaneous possession just because he reached around from behind the defender and had one hand on the ball? I remember it was late in the game and would have sealed the win for Bethel.

[umhb2001]

For some perusing...

UHMB stats: http://stats.ncaa.org/teams/450417

SJU stats: http://stats.ncaa.org/teams/450344


UHMB dominate the national stats to a scary degree.  The question is: have they padded them in a conference of cream puffs by building a huge program in a minnow pond or are they insanely dominant? We'll find out soon enough.

For most questions like this, I'd say it is somewhere in the middle. UMHB has great size and speed, and due to the facilities, location, and tradition, they are able to recruit really well. Yes, we play in a division that has several teams at the bottom of the standings with poor records, but our performance against HSU, TLU, ETBU, and SW show that we have very dominant players. So to answer your question...Yes.

[RoyalsFan]

Even when the game is played on the UST campus it isn't neutral venue.

#thejohnniearmytravels

You kind of lost me on this one Oz. Of course it's not a neutral venue when it's played on one of the team's campus.

[RoyalsFan]

semi-permanent when UST hosts the game, or is SJU willing to go in on a permanent neutral site setting going forward?

Uhhh, no way.

When hell freezes over.

The Target Field experiment was enough. No more!
I certainly hope that SJU administration realize how they greased the palms of UST. UST had to be smiling all the way to the bank. Not having to staff the event & cashing the check from the Twins was pretty clever for UST. I can't see SJU doing that again.

Are you saying only UST benefited from playing the game at Target Field? Didn't SJU share in the ticket sales?

[OzJohnnie]

I'm in the mood for mindless boosterism.  This time of year does not always require rational posts.