FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[57Johnnie]

fury, I agree with you, obviously.  It's beyond obvious that UHMB are favourites.  They are as tough as anything that the Jays have encountered in years.  Travelling to TX means that the Johnnies are one or two score underdogs.  At least on or two scores.  They will need to play out of their skin on both offense and defense, particularly defense, to have a chance of victory.


That being said, why is it so controversial to point out that UHMB have been raised on a diet of Texas creampuffs, candied almonds and maraschino cherries?

I think its more an issue of dismissing th conference overall. yes we have a few teams that are down, some of which have been in the playoffs in the last 5 years. The ASC has 1 non-conference game and the teams try to schedule good opponents. HSU played trinity, ETBU played Plattville, SU played Denison, UMHB traveled to NY to play Albright so they'd have a game (apparently, Albright backed out of the backend of the home and home because UMHB is looking for a week 1 game now). the top middle of the ASC put up numbers on everyone they play in or out of conference, except UMHB. The MIAC has 4 teams above .500, the ASC has 5. Each MIAC team gets 2 non-conference games and none of y'all were scheduling juggernauts, so your cries of cream puff and candied almonds come across as specious and selfserving. I'd be willing to bet that one of our top half teams would be willing to put y'all on the schedule so you could have a taste of texas cream puff, too.

The one thing that has been established beyond a reasonable doubt is that the Johnnie Faithful are the undisputed juggernaut of the d3boards. 

not sure juggernaut is the right word. I like boisterous, blow hard, troll, cacophanous, self agrandizing... any of those seems good.

Absolutely, we are all those and much much more.
Don't think of getting us started on beer, fishing, beer, wrestling, beer, hockey by bennie and retagent. beer or other topics. 

[AO]

I don't think we would romp our way through another region, but I do feel as if we could make the quarters as in a way Mulenburg or RPI did this year. I've watched both play this year and I believe HSU is a better team than both. Especially the way we played finishing out the season. I would love to have the ability to do that, until then we will have to deal with the dominance of UMHB in our own region, if not playing another power in Linfield. It is a fair question, but I mean a lot of people were really high on Berry and you saw their result to UMHB compared to both of ours. St. John's is a good team, and I am anxious to see how they match up to UMHB.

I, being a Linfield fan, agree with you.    HSU is consistently a good football team.    I have expressed for years the HORRIBLE seeding of the teams.    HSU could advance to the 2nd round or 3rd round if they were scheduled to meet most of the teams in the East or South regions.     Or, if they met the champions from the weaker conferences in the West or North.

I continue to fail to understand NCAA seedings.     Bizarre and very unfair.

George

Linfield has the same problem as HSU in recent years since we haven't really seen Linfield play anybody great besides HSU and UMHB.  Hard to tell if they're really on the same tier as the 2nd place MIAC/WIAC/CCIW teams or not.

[wm4]

Would it be a fair statement to think that had the NCAA committee seeded differently, a better, more realistic bracket would have seen the Johnnies get the #1 East Seed, and put in HSU as an at-large in the East as well. ? Travel is travel. Its the friggin playoffs man. That would have been a great way to see what HSU really is and would have given the proper respect to the Johnnies.

Yes. Proper seating would be a welcome change.Perhaps in the future this will occur,but I won't be holding my breath waiting on the NCAA 

From the Chairman of the national committee, sounds like they got called on the carpet by the NCAA for too many flights in recent years.  My cynical self says the funds required to pay for the legal fees related to the D1 hoops scandal had to come from somewhere, so D3 travel got axed/reduced. 

[Toby Taff]

fury, I agree with you, obviously.  It's beyond obvious that UHMB are favourites.  They are as tough as anything that the Jays have encountered in years.  Travelling to TX means that the Johnnies are one or two score underdogs.  At least on or two scores.  They will need to play out of their skin on both offense and defense, particularly defense, to have a chance of victory.


That being said, why is it so controversial to point out that UHMB have been raised on a diet of Texas creampuffs, candied almonds and maraschino cherries?

I think its more an issue of dismissing th conference overall. yes we have a few teams that are down, some of which have been in the playoffs in the last 5 years. The ASC has 1 non-conference game and the teams try to schedule good opponents. HSU played trinity, ETBU played Plattville, SU played Denison, UMHB traveled to NY to play Albright so they'd have a game (apparently, Albright backed out of the backend of the home and home because UMHB is looking for a week 1 game now). the top middle of the ASC put up numbers on everyone they play in or out of conference, except UMHB. The MIAC has 4 teams above .500, the ASC has 5. Each MIAC team gets 2 non-conference games and none of y'all were scheduling juggernauts, so your cries of cream puff and candied almonds come across as specious and selfserving. I'd be willing to bet that one of our top half teams would be willing to put y'all on the schedule so you could have a taste of texas cream puff, too.

The one thing that has been established beyond a reasonable doubt is that the Johnnie Faithful are the undisputed juggernaut of the d3boards. 

not sure juggernaut is the right word. I like boisterous, blow hard, troll, cacophanous, self agrandizing... any of those seems good.

Absolutely, we are all those and much much more.
Don't think of getting us started on beer, fishing, beer, wrestling, beer, hockey by bennie and retagent. beer or other topics. 

We're just a bunch of tea-totalling Baptists, what do we know about beer.   
Belton did have a hockey team at one time though. Sure miss those days.

[retagent]

fury, I agree with you, obviously.  It's beyond obvious that UHMB are favourites.  They are as tough as anything that the Jays have encountered in years.  Travelling to TX means that the Johnnies are one or two score underdogs.  At least on or two scores.  They will need to play out of their skin on both offense and defense, particularly defense, to have a chance of victory.


That being said, why is it so controversial to point out that UHMB have been raised on a diet of Texas creampuffs, candied almonds and maraschino cherries?

I think its more an issue of dismissing th conference overall. yes we have a few teams that are down, some of which have been in the playoffs in the last 5 years. The ASC has 1 non-conference game and the teams try to schedule good opponents. HSU played trinity, ETBU played Plattville, SU played Denison, UMHB traveled to NY to play Albright so they'd have a game (apparently, Albright backed out of the backend of the home and home because UMHB is looking for a week 1 game now). the top middle of the ASC put up numbers on everyone they play in or out of conference, except UMHB. The MIAC has 4 teams above .500, the ASC has 5. Each MIAC team gets 2 non-conference games and none of y'all were scheduling juggernauts, so your cries of cream puff and candied almonds come across as specious and selfserving. I'd be willing to bet that one of our top half teams would be willing to put y'all on the schedule so you could have a taste of texas cream puff, too.

The one thing that has been established beyond a reasonable doubt is that the Johnnie Faithful are the undisputed juggernaut of the d3boards. 

not sure juggernaut is the right word. I like boisterous, blow hard, troll, cacophanous, self agrandizing... any of those seems good.

Absolutely, we are all those and much much more.
Don't think of getting us started on beer, fishing, beer, wrestling, beer, hockey by bennie and retagent. beer or other topics. 

Speaking of hockey, I don't think I've crowed enough about my Capitals winning the Stanley Cup. As a way to bring it up again, try and locate the video of the "ceremony" Monday night in Long Island prior to the Caps/Islanders tilt. The Caps presented last year's Head Coach Barry Trotz, Assistant Coach Lane Lambert and Goalie Coach Mitch Korn with their rings. Nice speeches by the recipients, particularly Trotz and Korn. Very heartfelt and profound.

[repete]

Ret -- If your Caps fandom goes back far enough, you might remember this guy's night against the Isles.  Great guy. Sad story.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/11/26/bob-and-victoria-mason-battle-stage-4-cancer-and-wild-nhl-pitch-in/

[repete]

Would it be a fair statement to think that had the NCAA committee seeded differently, a better, more realistic bracket would have seen the Johnnies get the #1 East Seed, and put in HSU as an at-large in the East as well. ? Travel is travel. Its the friggin playoffs man. That would have been a great way to see what HSU really is and would have given the proper respect to the Johnnies.

Yes. Proper seating would be a welcome change.Perhaps in the future this will occur,but I won't be holding my breath waiting on the NCAA 

From the Chairman of the national committee, sounds like they got called on the carpet by the NCAA for too many flights in recent years.  My cynical self says the funds required to pay for the legal fees related to the D1 hoops scandal had to come from somewhere, so D3 travel got axed/reduced.

Wondering if the chair put up a better stand for bracket integrity than his Lake Forest defense did in its loss to Mac. (435 yards, BTW) 

[wally_wabash]

fury, I agree with you, obviously.  It's beyond obvious that UHMB are favourites.  They are as tough as anything that the Jays have encountered in years.  Travelling to TX means that the Johnnies are one or two score underdogs.  At least on or two scores.  They will need to play out of their skin on both offense and defense, particularly defense, to have a chance of victory.


That being said, why is it so controversial to point out that UHMB have been raised on a diet of Texas creampuffs, candied almonds and maraschino cherries?

I think its more an issue of dismissing th conference overall. yes we have a few teams that are down, some of which have been in the playoffs in the last 5 years. The ASC has 1 non-conference game and the teams try to schedule good opponents. HSU played trinity, ETBU played Plattville, SU played Denison, UMHB traveled to NY to play Albright so they'd have a game (apparently, Albright backed out of the backend of the home and home because UMHB is looking for a week 1 game now). the top middle of the ASC put up numbers on everyone they play in or out of conference, except UMHB. The MIAC has 4 teams above .500, the ASC has 5. Each MIAC team gets 2 non-conference games and none of y'all were scheduling juggernauts, so your cries of cream puff and candied almonds come across as specious and selfserving. I'd be willing to bet that one of our top half teams would be willing to put y'all on the schedule so you could have a taste of texas cream puff, too.

The one thing that has been established beyond a reasonable doubt is that the Johnnie Faithful are the undisputed juggernaut of the d3boards. 

not sure juggernaut is the right word. I like boisterous, blow hard, troll, cacophanous, self agrandizing... any of those seems good.

Absolutely, we are all those and much much more.
Don't think of getting us started on beer, fishing, beer, wrestling, beer, hockey by bennie and retagent. beer or other topics. 

Speaking of hockey, I don't think I've crowed enough about my Capitals winning the Stanley Cup. As a way to bring it up again, try and locate the video of the "ceremony" Monday night in Long Island prior to the Caps/Islanders tilt. The Caps presented last year's Head Coach Barry Trotz, Assistant Coach Lane Lambert and Goalie Coach Mitch Korn with their rings. Nice speeches by the recipients, particularly Trotz and Korn. Very heartfelt and profound.

I was at Nats Park to take in a little bit of the national pasttime when the Caps showed up with the Cup.  Two things:
1) The Stanley Cup is freaking awesome.  Was definitely cool to see it in person. 
2) I hope to one day have, like, 10% as much fun giving zero effs about anything as the Caps did post-Finals.  Those boys enjoyed themselves, to say the least. 

[sju56321]

Put HSU in the east and they probably get to the bracket final.
I think all this banter is funny, can you imagine if this site was running in 1993? We SJU would be saying who has Mount played? We have the SI player of the year and a point a minute offense-no contest. How wrong that was.
Hopefully it is a good game Saturday-a measuring stick-maybe.

[Pat Coleman]

Would it be a fair statement to think that had the NCAA committee seeded differently, a better, more realistic bracket would have seen the Johnnies get the #1 East Seed, and put in HSU as an at-large in the East as well. ? Travel is travel. Its the friggin playoffs man. That would have been a great way to see what HSU really is and would have given the proper respect to the Johnnies.

Yes. Proper seating would be a welcome change.Perhaps in the future this will occur,but I won't be holding my breath waiting on the NCAA 

From the Chairman of the national committee, sounds like they got called on the carpet by the NCAA for too many flights in recent years.  My cynical self says the funds required to pay for the legal fees related to the D1 hoops scandal had to come from somewhere, so D3 travel got axed/reduced.

Wondering if the chair put up a better stand for bracket integrity than his Lake Forest defense did in its loss to Mac. (435 yards, BTW)

Not sure why people feel the need to take shots at LFC because their coach is the chair. That seems kind of petty.

[Ralph Turner]

fury, I agree with you, obviously.  It's beyond obvious that UHMB are favourites.  They are as tough as anything that the Jays have encountered in years.  Travelling to TX means that the Johnnies are one or two score underdogs.  At least on or two scores.  They will need to play out of their skin on both offense and defense, particularly defense, to have a chance of victory.


That being said, why is it so controversial to point out that UHMB have been raised on a diet of Texas creampuffs, candied almonds and maraschino cherries?

I think its more an issue of dismissing th conference overall. yes we have a few teams that are down, some of which have been in the playoffs in the last 5 years. The ASC has 1 non-conference game and the teams try to schedule good opponents. HSU played trinity, ETBU played Plattville, SU played Denison, UMHB traveled to NY to play Albright so they'd have a game (apparently, Albright backed out of the backend of the home and home because UMHB is looking for a week 1 game now). the top middle of the ASC put up numbers on everyone they play in or out of conference, except UMHB. The MIAC has 4 teams above .500, the ASC has 5. Each MIAC team gets 2 non-conference games and none of y'all were scheduling juggernauts, so your cries of cream puff and candied almonds come across as specious and selfserving. I'd be willing to bet that one of our top half teams would be willing to put y'all on the schedule so you could have a taste of texas cream puff, too.

The one thing that has been established beyond a reasonable doubt is that the Johnnie Faithful are the undisputed juggernaut of the d3boards. 

not sure juggernaut is the right word. I like boisterous, blow hard, troll, cacophanous, self agrandizing... any of those seems good.

Absolutely, we are all those and much much more.
Don't think of getting us started on beer, fishing, beer, wrestling, beer, hockey by bennie and retagent. beer or other topics. 

We're just a bunch of tea-totalling Baptists, what do we know about beer.   
Belton did have a hockey team at one time though. Sure miss those days.

Do you know how to keep a Baptist from drinking your beer on a fishing trip?

Invite 2 Baptists!

[retagent]

Ret -- If your Caps fandom goes back far enough, you might remember this guy's night against the Isles.  Great guy. Sad story.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/11/26/bob-and-victoria-mason-battle-stage-4-cancer-and-wild-nhl-pitch-in/

I was a man without a team when the North Stars left. I didn't pick up the Capitals until I moved there and started taking my sons to games. Although I did go to one game at the old arena in Landover during their first year in the league because I was going to a school near DC. I believe that Mason not only played for the Caps but was their goalie coach for a while. Curiously, they just had a trivia question on one of the recent broadcasts that asked you to name the 4 American born goalies that played for the Caps. (Mason, Carrey, Brent Johnson and now Phoenix Copley).

[repete]

Would it be a fair statement to think that had the NCAA committee seeded differently, a better, more realistic bracket would have seen the Johnnies get the #1 East Seed, and put in HSU as an at-large in the East as well. ? Travel is travel. Its the friggin playoffs man. That would have been a great way to see what HSU really is and would have given the proper respect to the Johnnies.

Yes. Proper seating would be a welcome change.Perhaps in the future this will occur,but I won't be holding my breath waiting on the NCAA 

From the Chairman of the national committee, sounds like they got called on the carpet by the NCAA for too many flights in recent years.  My cynical self says the funds required to pay for the legal fees related to the D1 hoops scandal had to come from somewhere, so D3 travel got axed/reduced.

Wondering if the chair put up a better stand for bracket integrity than his Lake Forest defense did in its loss to Mac. (435 yards, BTW)

Not sure why people feel the need to take shots at LFC because their coach is the chair. That seems kind of petty.

Meh, more of a jab at a coach than a poke at his team. It was basically his defense. Would have had like to have heard more from the podcast or elsewhere on how hard the pushback was, if any.

[repete]

Ret -- If your Caps fandom goes back far enough, you might remember this guy's night against the Isles.  Great guy. Sad story.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/11/26/bob-and-victoria-mason-battle-stage-4-cancer-and-wild-nhl-pitch-in/

I was a man without a team when the North Stars left. I didn't pick up the Capitals until I moved there and started taking my sons to games. Although I did go to one game at the old arena in Landover during their first year in the league because I was going to a school near DC. I believe that Mason not only played for the Caps but was their goalie coach for a while. Curiously, they just had a trivia question on one of the recent broadcasts that asked you to name the 4 American born goalies that played for the Caps. (Mason, Carrey, Brent Johnson and now Phoenix Copley).

Seemed for a while that between the pipes was the only entrance for Yanks to the NHL. Bob had a twin brother, Billy, who was a great player as well. Ended up as a WCHA ref. Nice family.

[OzJohnnie]

WOW!

You guys are really going at it. I'm not getting involved. Just a quick comment. We all agree, Belton will get to see two great teams play Saturday. That's a given. Who will win? We'll find out in 3 days.
I will simply say - GO JOHNNIES! Bring that win back to Collegeville. This Raider fan is with you all the way. Travel safely, no injuries to the team and enjoy the fruits of your labor over the season. Have fun St. John's!. 🏈👍

And, 57, just an early warning... IF Mount manage to somehow survive the nuclear battle zone of their half of the bracket and we meet in the Stagg, it won't be personal that week.  Just PP flame. We can return to normal after your gracious concession speech.