FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

Prior to this year, out of curiosity, when was the last time the Johnnies made it to the quarterfinals?

2006, where they beat Whitworth in round 2 and lost to UWW 17-14 in the quarters.

[MiacMan]

Prior to this year, out of curiosity, when was the last time the Johnnies made it to the quarterfinals?

2006, where they beat Whitworth in round 2 and lost to UWW 17-14 in the quarters.

TY, Duff!

I do recall that UWW game now. I thought you guys were going to pull that one out.

[QB Jock Itch]

Prior to this year, out of curiosity, when was the last time the Johnnies made it to the quarterfinals?

2006, where they beat Whitworth in round 2 and lost to UWW 17-14 in the quarters.

st johns game notes looked good. I don't get to caught up in what teams have done in the passed years because it doesn't matter to much to the young'n playing Sat. But I'm curious is the johnnie's record in the qtr finals on the the road 2 and 3?

I also saw where the team will be coming down Thurs (smart move) to become acclimated to the heat wave we got going on the late November. By the way Y'ALL (Texas accent) are welcome.

[art76]

Because of how the brackets were set, it just occurred to me that if this week, only one MIAC team wins - the winner of this week's game will see the second MIAC team next week. Kind of weird.

And it looks like Mount will probably see both Centennial Conference teams.

[crufootball]

DuffMan was kind enough to alert the UMHB faithful that St. Johns had posted their game notes so I figured I would do the same.

https://cruathletics.com/news/2018/11/28/football-prepares-to-face-saint-johns-in-ncaa-quarterfinals.aspx

[OzJohnnie]

Would it be a fair statement to think that had the NCAA committee seeded differently, a better, more realistic bracket would have seen the Johnnies get the #1 East Seed, and put in HSU as an at-large in the East as well. ? Travel is travel. Its the friggin playoffs man. That would have been a great way to see what HSU really is and would have given the proper respect to the Johnnies.

We really hope to welcome them to the Perk next weekend with the current pairings, so let it rip. I'd like to watch both games at the same time.

To do that, in reality, the NCAA needs more gate receipts.  Maybe U$T for all their fault$, and they are numberou$, is $howing the way by whoring their big game$ to off campu$ venue$.  Just because they are possibly doing us all a favour doesn't mean we need to be happy about it.

This is what I don't understand - all the complaining by SJU fans (and no, not all) about UST using an off campus site for their big games. SJU is free to do the same thing. Sounds more like jealousy to me.

It's something to complain about.  Like taxes.

[Toby Taff]

So this was in SJUs game notes:

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the
team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted
testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard
reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former running
back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was
third at 4.74 seconds.

That's not really the fastest guy on your team, right?

[AO]

So this was in SJUs game notes:

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the
team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted
testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard
reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former running
back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was
third at 4.74 seconds.

That's not really the fastest guy on your team, right?

Their laser timed system is probably at least a tenth slower than what you would get manually timed.

[OzJohnnie]

So this was in SJUs game notes:

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the
team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted
testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard
reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former running
back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was
third at 4.74 seconds.

That's not really the fastest guy on your team, right?

I'm not sure they tell the truth on those things but maybe they do. I'm surprised the freshman Trost isn't the fastest in the squad as he's a lightening bolt and noticeably quicker than anyone around him, particularly when he breaks a long run.

[sjusection105]

So this was in SJUs game notes:

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the
team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted
testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard
reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former running
back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was
third at 4.74 seconds.

That's not really the fastest guy on your team, right?

I'm not sure they tell the truth on those things but maybe they do. I'm surprised the freshman Trost isn't the fastest in the squad as he's a lightening bolt and noticeably quicker than anyone around him, particularly when he breaks a long run.

that was supposed to be a secret.........

[D O.C.]

Lemme take this time on a Wednesday to thank the minions who have given press (ok, board time) to the not- invited-to-the-party LINFIELD.
Would remind those minions Hardin-Simmons has beaten LINFIELD in the last decade -or so.
Please, may the slings and arrows now become of a personal nature the next two days.

[Toby Taff]

So this was in SJUs game notes:

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the
team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted
testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard
reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former running
back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was
third at 4.74 seconds.

That's not really the fastest guy on your team, right?

I'm not sure they tell the truth on those things but maybe they do. I'm surprised the freshman Trost isn't the fastest in the squad as he's a lightening bolt and noticeably quicker than anyone around him, particularly when he breaks a long run.

that was supposed to be a secret.........

I propose that instead of risking injury playing football, we line up the teams and run positioin for position. most position wins advances.

[OzJohnnie]

SJU/UMHB Game Notes are up.

Ok, I pored over the game notes on the morning train (Sheena E lives in my head again.  I'm amazed at how frustratingly much I remember of that stupid song.) and I have some observations from 30,000 feet.  Essentially this: SJU present a new challenge to the Crusaders and that could be the difference.  Some stats and analysis.

          Total O / passing / ground / % pass / % ground

MHB: 477 / 214 / 264 / 45% / 55%
SJU: 494 / 290 / 204 / 59% / 41%

Despite the fact that the foot comes off the gas in the second half for both teams and they revert to run, run, run, I say that statistical view still reflects the general offensive disposition of the teams.  MHB is a run-heavy king of smash.  AirJohnnie^tm.

       Total D / passing / ground / pass % / ground %
MHB: 189 / 112 / 77 / 60% / 40%
SJU: 277 / 184 / 93 / 66% / 34%

Again ignoring second half distortions, MHB face more ground oriented offenses while SJU faces more air attack.  I imagine teams try the air against MHB because they can't move on the ground while teams try the air against SJU because they must keep up with the high and early scoring offense.

So those general observations aside, I looked for differences in the other stats that could give insight to the teams' play and two stood out.  The first was the sacks as a percentage of total tackles for loss.

      TFL / sacks / % of TFL which are sacks
MHB: 111 / 27 / 25%
SJU: 94 / 43 / 49%

That's quite a large difference.  It indicates to me that MHB has a rock solid line and it's very hard to run by those guys, but perhaps they don't have that explosive a pass rush.  SJU, on the other hand, is tackling the passing quarterback half the time they tackle in the backfield.  I suspect this is less because MHB are average pass rushers and more because they face the run far more than the pass, while the Johnnies face the pass more often.  It's a matter of opportunity.

     Takeaways / by int / by fumble / int:fumble ratio
MHB: 38 / 26 / 12 / 2.2:1
SJU: 35 / 18 / 17 / 1:1

Yet again an indicator that MHB is facing an unusual challenge in SJU.  I don't think that MHB have faced a particularly sophisticated pass attack.  Most definitely that have fabulous athletes and a hard defense, but it's strange to me that so many take aways are interceptions when they face the run far more often and their sack to TFL ratio is so low.  I think they are facing some sub-par passing teams.

The question is how will they go against an A-grade pass attack?  The average pass efficiency offense in the ASC is 126.2, well below SJU's pass efficiency of 194.15.  In fact the best pass attack that UHMB has face is... guess it... HSU who put out a pass attack of 162.25.

What am I concluding?  I'm concluding that both teams are facing the best they have yet faced.  But SJU is facing a game plan they have seen before, just done extremely well with great athletes.  MHB is facing something brand new and different from anything they have prepped against.  Does that mean they'll fail miserably and get stomped?  Of course not.  Does it mean that there is a real chance that SJU can beat these guys?  Absolutely.

[hazzben]

So this was in SJUs game notes:

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the
team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted
testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard
reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former running
back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was
third at 4.74 seconds.

That's not really the fastest guy on your team, right?

Typically a laser system is supposed to add .2 to .23 seconds to the time versus a hand held result. Which is why Clark's 4.3 last year was so crazy.

[hazzben]

I'm surprised nobody has yet recalled that "you heard it first" from Frank Rossi of "in the huddlle" fame, that predicted Brockport had the toughest road to the Stagg on the pre-playoff podcast (too lazy to go figure out which one it was).

I made fun of Frank earlier this week or over the weekend.