FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

The coat thing started in 2016 -- it's an homage to Craig Sager, noted sideline guy with outlandish coats, who lost his battle with leukemia the night before the 2016 Stagg.

[art76]

Just finished listening to the final podcast for the year. I was a bit surprised that Steve Johnson's name did not come up when they were doing the round table discussion for coach of the year. - not that I expected him to win it because Bethel only got to the semi-final round. Most on this board know that BU went 5 and 5 last year and were only picked to end up fourth in the conference in Kick-off at the beginning of the year. It is my opinion that he did a lot with a little this year and should have gotten at least a little recognition at the national level for what happened this year at Bethel.

[repete]

The coat thing started in 2016 -- it's an homage to Craig Sager, noted sideline guy with outlandish coats, who lost his battle with leukemia the night before the 2016 Stagg.

Yikes, apologies. Did not know, but it makes sense. Was just a lame, throwaway attempt at a joke after complimenting your crew. Modifying that post as so not to further offend.

[sjusection105]

With the off season transfers of Luke Poorman to MHB, Dom Davis to Walsh and Jake Reid to Wabash there isn't a viable QB left on the roster behind Fulford. 

Mount is in dire need of serious QB recruit ahead of next season.

So what's the scoop here? With just some preliminary searching it looks like Jake Reid did well for Wabash. Poorman had some  action in UMHB blowouts and Dom Davis went to D2 Walsh, played in 2 games, had 2 attempts and 0 completions.
Are there internal issues within the team, the coaching staff or both at UMU?

[MUC57]

With the off season transfers of Luke Poorman to MHB, Dom Davis to Walsh and Jake Reid to Wabash there isn't a viable QB left on the roster behind Fulford. 

Mount is in dire need of serious QB recruit ahead of next season.

So what's the scoop here? With just some preliminary searching it looks like Jake Reid did well for Wabash. Poorman had some  action in UMHB blowouts and Dom Davis went to D2 Walsh, played in 2 games, had 2 attempts and 0 completions.
Are there internal issues within the team, the coaching staff or both at UMU?

I think it's just that Fulford was seen as the starter until he graduated. The other guys, at least Poorman, wanted to play more and even start. 

[Bspratt2]

Hello all, I follow this board quite frequently during the season and am a current SJU student. I follow the football program very closely, yes some students do still care, and wanted to get some feedback. Feel free to talk me down from this lofty perch...but I truly believe Jackson Erdmann is one of the most talented QB's from the state of Minnesota in some time. I posted his highlight video from this season below and the throws he is able to make, often right on the money, are simply incredible.

Now of course there are any number of reasons why my statement could be dead wrong. DIII football is not DI by any means. The difference between watching the Stagg Bowl and even a team like NDSU shows immense speed differences. That I cannot deny. I also could be extremely biased since I just witnessed an incredible Gagliardi Trophy season first hand. With that in mind, I ask when is the last time you saw a Gopher quarterback make those throws? Or a Wisconsin QB? The DI game is obviously much quicker and the DBs are very talented, but I think Erdmann has more arm talent and better ball placement than a lot of DI quarterbacks I've seen in the last 10 years. I know Gopher fans should agree that Jerdy can spin it better than say...Mitch Leidner?

And it makes sense too. James Franklin's staff at Penn State saw enough in him to give him a PWO. That alone says he's probably a DI talent. Injuries and the bouts with acute cerebellar ataxia may have cooled the recruiting trail otherwise maybe he gets more offers. All I know is that I'm grateful that my Johnnies have him for another season and I can't wait to see what records he breaks in 2019. And who knows? If Joe Callahan can pick up an NFL look a few years ago I don't see why Jackson couldn't get a rookie minicamp look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiF1QzFu87o&t=0s

[D O.C.]

BS2...I have the pleasure of giving your first positive karma.

Now, you should know people from across the d3 world have their interest piqued  (Guru Pat is a master at sniffing out something amiss.)

Ex: about 10 years ago a father came on the SCIAC board lauding a quarterback at Redlands U.
Turns out the kid was his son. Dad did not back down with the charade. His kid was 3rd string at best and eventually moved on.
You see my drift?

And no, this is not my board.  I just come here to post and be ignored. True, I contribute little about Glory Days, ice fishing, dressing a deer in the field or where Ferris St. or Minnesota St. are located.
Welcome

[sjusection105]

Welcome bspratt2,

A couple of years back two Concordia Cobbers, QB Griffin Neal & WR Brandon Zylstra made their way to AZ for a NFL Pro Day. Neal got an offer from the Saints and Zylstra went to Edmonton of the CFL and lit up the league. Zylstra is now on the Vikings roster thanks in part to a Vikings scout named Jake Essler, yep he is Adam's older brother and former Johnnie RB.
I am absolutely 100% certain that Jackson is on the Vikings scouting reports. Jackson will get an opportunity to attend a Pro Day, if he performs well enough one or more NFL or CFL teams will have a serious discussion with he and his family. Until then, we as Johnnie fans, just need to appreciate what we have because a talent like this comes around on the D3 level a lot less frequently than on the D1 level.

[OzJohnnie]

Hello all, I follow this board quite frequently during the season and am a current SJU student. I follow the football program very closely, yes some students do still care, and wanted to get some feedback. Feel free to talk me down from this lofty perch...but I truly believe Jackson Erdmann is one of the most talented QB's from the state of Minnesota in some time. I posted his highlight video from this season below and the throws he is able to make, often right on the money, are simply incredible.

Now of course there are any number of reasons why my statement could be dead wrong. DIII football is not DI by any means. The difference between watching the Stagg Bowl and even a team like NDSU shows immense speed differences. That I cannot deny. I also could be extremely biased since I just witnessed an incredible Gagliardi Trophy season first hand. With that in mind, I ask when is the last time you saw a Gopher quarterback make those throws? Or a Wisconsin QB? The DI game is obviously much quicker and the DBs are very talented, but I think Erdmann has more arm talent and better ball placement than a lot of DI quarterbacks I've seen in the last 10 years. I know Gopher fans should agree that Jerdy can spin it better than say...Mitch Leidner?

And it makes sense too. James Franklin's staff at Penn State saw enough in him to give him a PWO. That alone says he's probably a DI talent. Injuries and the bouts with acute cerebellar ataxia may have cooled the recruiting trail otherwise maybe he gets more offers. All I know is that I'm grateful that my Johnnies have him for another season and I can't wait to see what records he breaks in 2019. And who knows? If Joe Callahan can pick up an NFL look a few years ago I don't see why Jackson couldn't get a rookie minicamp look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiF1QzFu87o&t=0s

Thanks for this vid.  I really enjoyed watching when it was first posted to youtube.

Do you post all the vids on the gojohnniesdotcom youtube channel?  If so, thanks bigly.  Very much appreciated.  If not, could you share my thanks with your colleagues?

[miac952]

As most know I'm a Tommie Fan. After thinking about it a bit I don't think the Erdmann take is outlandish. MN hasn't exactly had a bumper crop of QB talent to point to in the last 10-12 years, especially "true" pocket passing QB's. Maybe I'm forgetting a standout DII guy since I don't follow it closely, but nothing DI or DIII jumps out. Adam Weber or a Mankato QB?? No one else jumps out. The Dakota's and Western WI have produced better QB talent (Wentz, Stanley). That's pretty sad. Mauer was a generational QB talent, but that's going back a ways, and he chose the baseball path.

At a DIII level the only comparable QB's I have seen are Aaron Boehme from Linfield and Alex Tanney from Monmouth. There were other guys out there over the years that were dynamic, but when looking at what the NFK truly covets, those two + Erdmann jump out. Matt Blanchard from UWW had a similar journeyman NFL career to Tanney, but I can't say I saw him play enough to judge.

[Mr. Ypsi]

As most know I'm a Tommie Fan. After thinking about it a bit I don't think the Erdmann take is outlandish. MN hasn't exactly had a bumper crop of QB talent to point to in the last 10-12 years, especially "true" pocket passing QB's. Maybe I'm forgetting a standout DII guy since I don't follow it closely, but nothing DI or DIII jumps out. Adam Weber or a Mankato QB?? No one else jumps out. The Dakota's and Western WI have produced better QB talent (Wentz, Stanley). That's pretty sad. Mauer was a generational QB talent, but that's going back a ways, and he chose the baseball path.

At a DIII level the only comparable QB's I have seen are Aaron Boehme from Linfield and Alex Tanney from Monmouth. There were other guys out there over the years that were dynamic, but when looking at what the NFK truly covets, those two + Erdmann jump out. Matt Blanchard from UWW had a similar journeyman NFL career to Tanney, but I can't say I saw him play enough to judge.

Please don't EVER bring up the name of Alex Tanney again- it causes recurring nightmares!

In 2011, IWU faced Monmouth in round one of the playoffs.  We had the better team (probably by far) but they had Alex Tanney.  They prevailed in triple OT.  In the final OT, they scored by non-stop runs - but they worked because we were so focusing on Tanney (he had about 336 yards passing for the game - which was holding him well below his average!)  Our QB was good, but he was a sophomore and no Tanney - Monmouth's opportunity in the third OT was because Rob Gallik lost a fumble on the one yard line.

If Monmouth plays football for another 200 years, they will NEVER have another Alex Tanney!

[bleedpurple]

As most know I'm a Tommie Fan. After thinking about it a bit I don't think the Erdmann take is outlandish. MN hasn't exactly had a bumper crop of QB talent to point to in the last 10-12 years, especially "true" pocket passing QB's. Maybe I'm forgetting a standout DII guy since I don't follow it closely, but nothing DI or DIII jumps out. Adam Weber or a Mankato QB?? No one else jumps out. The Dakota's and Western WI have produced better QB talent (Wentz, Stanley). That's pretty sad. Mauer was a generational QB talent, but that's going back a ways, and he chose the baseball path.

At a DIII level the only comparable QB's I have seen are Aaron Boehme from Linfield and Alex Tanney from Monmouth. There were other guys out there over the years that were dynamic, but when looking at what the NFK truly covets, those two + Erdmann jump out. Matt Blanchard from UWW had a similar journeyman NFL career to Tanney, but I can't say I saw him play enough to judge.

Please don't EVER bring up the name of Alex Tanney again- it causes recurring nightmares!

In 2011, IWU faced Monmouth in round one of the playoffs.  We had the better team (probably by far) but they had Alex Tanney.  They prevailed in triple OT.  In the final OT, they scored by non-stop runs - but they worked because we were so focusing on Tanney (he had about 336 yards passing for the game - which was holding him well below his average!)  Our QB was good, but he was a sophomore and no Tanney - Monmouth's opportunity in the third OT was because Rob Gallik lost a fumble on the one yard line.

If Monmouth plays football for another 200 years, they will NEVER have another Alex Tanney!

I have a feeling Erdmann may be the same thing for St. John's, except with far more talent surrounding him. 2019 might be the best chance St. John's has had at a Stagg Bowl appearance for long time. It may be awhile (not 200 years) before the Johnnies get another QB the caliber of Erdmann as well. 

[OzJohnnie]

I may become addicted to making moving gif files now that I've figured out how to do this.

[SaintsFAN]

My word. UMHB has mismanaged the hell out of the last 4 minutes of this game

Gonna win in spite of it.

Yup.  MHB wins inspite of their coaching.   Not because of it.

Strong Jimmy's and Joe's, despite the lack of X's and O's

[OldAuggie]

Hello all, I follow this board quite frequently during the season and am a current SJU student. I follow the football program very closely, yes some students do still care, and wanted to get some feedback. Feel free to talk me down from this lofty perch...but I truly believe Jackson Erdmann is one of the most talented QB's from the state of Minnesota in some time. I posted his highlight video from this season below and the throws he is able to make, often right on the money, are simply incredible.

Now of course there are any number of reasons why my statement could be dead wrong. DIII football is not DI by any means. The difference between watching the Stagg Bowl and even a team like NDSU shows immense speed differences. That I cannot deny. I also could be extremely biased since I just witnessed an incredible Gagliardi Trophy season first hand. With that in mind, I ask when is the last time you saw a Gopher quarterback make those throws? Or a Wisconsin QB? The DI game is obviously much quicker and the DBs are very talented, but I think Erdmann has more arm talent and better ball placement than a lot of DI quarterbacks I've seen in the last 10 years. I know Gopher fans should agree that Jerdy can spin it better than say...Mitch Leidner?

And it makes sense too. James Franklin's staff at Penn State saw enough in him to give him a PWO. That alone says he's probably a DI talent. Injuries and the bouts with acute cerebellar ataxia may have cooled the recruiting trail otherwise maybe he gets more offers. All I know is that I'm grateful that my Johnnies have him for another season and I can't wait to see what records he breaks in 2019. And who knows? If Joe Callahan can pick up an NFL look a few years ago I don't see why Jackson couldn't get a rookie minicamp look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiF1QzFu87o&t=0s

Erdmann is clearly a very nice QB. I will admit before the playoffs I was wondering how he could be a serious finalist for the Gagliardi Award when Mount Union and UMHB have so many good players that deserve consideration. After watching some of the playoffs and the Stagg Bowl and the UMU and UMHB players it is clear to me; Erdmann deserved the award.

As far as comparing him to a D1 QB there are so many things a QB needs to do on that level, maybe he can handle a D1 pounding but we just don't know. Those D1 defenders are so big, TALL, fast and strong and the QB has to be super tough to take the hits and stay on the field. Additionally, reading a defense at the D1 level is complicated and while I think Erdmann is probably capable in that department we just don't know if he can handle a Pro Style role at that level.

The Gophers have struggled big time to land a good QB for so many years. Some say Adam Weber fits the bill and yes he was good but I have to go back to Tony Dungy to find someone who I really like. I will say this about current starter Tanner Morgan, he is not going to impress you physically or with incredible arm strength but he is very smart and super tough. I have watched him take some big time hits when he takes off running in Ciarrocca's RPO and he gets up and comes back for more. He has that grit and competitive spirit that is hard to find. I don't see Erdmann as physically able to handle that level of pounding. I liked his toughness as he played in the Stagg with one arm though. A new recruit from Rockwall TX who will sign a NLI on Wednesday named Jacob Clark will be that new level of QB for the Gophers. I don't think Erdmann is better than Clark who is coming in as a 4 star. Erdmann who had no star rating out of high school that I can find could possibly compete with Annexstad or Morgan who are the QB's now but as soon as Clark gets his feet wet in January all of that will change.