FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Miacman4040]

But again, that doesn't mean it's not something Anderson isn't pushing - Olaf loves viewing itself as an academic elite.

They don't just believe it, they actually are an elite academic school, especially compared to other MIAC schools not named Carleton and Mac. STO's president is a fool but he is not bluffing on the academic merits of his school. These weak, timid, pathetic "Coalition of Losers" aren't losing in life after Division 3 football I can assure you that.

They may claim that, but the evidence in regards to the football team certainly doesn't support that claim.

https://gojohnnies.com/news/2019/4/10/football-sju-leads-the-way-with-20-named-to-nffs-hampshire-honor-society.aspx

COLLEGEVILLE, Minn. – Saint John's University led all divisions of college football with 20 student-athletes named to the 2019 National Football Foundation & College Football Hall of Fame Hampshire Honor Society on Wednesday, April 10...

SJU is one of 29 college football programs that have had at least one honoree in all 13 years of the NFF Hampshire Honor Society. The 20 honorees surpassed the Johnnies' previous high of 18 in 2017.

Ah yes, the ultimate measure of a school's academic achievement, the NFF Hampshire Honor Society. UM-Crookston has 7 honorees and Yale has 2 on this list. Seems like a pretty accurate representation of a school's academic prowess. 

[57Johnnie]

But again, that doesn't mean it's not something Anderson isn't pushing - Olaf loves viewing itself as an academic elite.

They don't just believe it, they actually are an elite academic school, especially compared to other MIAC schools not named Carleton and Mac. STO's president is a fool but he is not bluffing on the academic merits of his school. These weak, timid, pathetic "Coalition of Losers" aren't losing in life after Division 3 football I can assure you that.

They may claim that, but the evidence in regards to the football team certainly doesn't support that claim.

https://gojohnnies.com/news/2019/4/10/football-sju-leads-the-way-with-20-named-to-nffs-hampshire-honor-society.aspx

COLLEGEVILLE, Minn. – Saint John's University led all divisions of college football with 20 student-athletes named to the 2019 National Football Foundation & College Football Hall of Fame Hampshire Honor Society on Wednesday, April 10...

SJU is one of 29 college football programs that have had at least one honoree in all 13 years of the NFF Hampshire Honor Society. The 20 honorees surpassed the Johnnies' previous high of 18 in 2017.

Ah yes, the ultimate measure of a school's academic achievement, the NFF Hampshire Honor Society. UM-Crookston has 7 honorees and Yale has 2 on this list. Seems like a pretty accurate representation of a school's academic prowess. 

Macalester, Harvard and John's Hopkins among others all have 10 or more. 

[miac952]

But again, that doesn't mean it's not something Anderson isn't pushing - Olaf loves viewing itself as an academic elite.

They don't just believe it, they actually are an elite academic school, especially compared to other MIAC schools not named Carleton and Mac. STO's president is a fool but he is not bluffing on the academic merits of his school. These weak, timid, pathetic "Coalition of Losers" aren't losing in life after Division 3 football I can assure you that.

The Oles have labeled themselves as academic elite and tried to group in with Mac and Carleton, but there is a gap between those two and St Olaf. UST & Gustavus are the next tier and just as close to St Olaf as St Olaf is to the top two, based on ACT & GPA. Feel free to argue those metrics if you want but it's what is most accessible to uniformly measure enrolled classes. St Olaf has done some nice marketing to throw themselves in with Carleton and Mac.

Carleton - ACT 31-34 - GPA 3.8
Mac - ACT 29-32 - GPA - 3.8
St Olaf - ACT 25-31 - GPA - 3.7
St Thomas - ACT 24-29 GPA - 3.6
Gustavus - ACT 24-30 GPA - 3.6

[Miacman4040]

But again, that doesn't mean it's not something Anderson isn't pushing - Olaf loves viewing itself as an academic elite.

They don't just believe it, they actually are an elite academic school, especially compared to other MIAC schools not named Carleton and Mac. STO's president is a fool but he is not bluffing on the academic merits of his school. These weak, timid, pathetic "Coalition of Losers" aren't losing in life after Division 3 football I can assure you that.

The Oles have labeled themselves as academic elite and tried to group in with Mac and Carleton, but there is a gap between those two and St Olaf. UST & Gustavus are the next tier and just as close to St Olaf as St Olaf is to the top two, based on ACT & GPA. Feel free to argue those metrics if you want but it's what is most accessible to uniformly measure enrolled classes. St Olaf has done some nice marketing to throw themselves in with Carleton and Mac.

Carleton - ACT 31-34 - GPA 3.8
Mac - ACT 29-32 - GPA - 3.8
St Olaf - ACT 25-31 - GPA - 3.7
St Thomas - ACT 24-29 GPA - 3.6
Gustavus - ACT 24-30 GPA - 3.6

This may be true. St Olaf has a 36% acceptance rate, St Thomas has an 85% acceptance rate, Gustavus is 67%. Good marketing or not, St Olaf is seen as prestigious, and St Thomas/Gustavus are not as much. Additionally, my original post didn't claim they were light years ahead of the next best in the MIAC, just that they were better off academically than the rest, which is true. I think we can all agree that those 5 schools are great academic institutions based off those numbers. Especially that top one 

[OzJohnnie]

STO Parents' Association spokescelebrity, Lori Loughlin, was unavailable for comment regarding the integrity of college admission test result claims.

[ITH radio]

We talk a little MIAC and UST at the 41:50 mark

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/325219891519217?sfns=mo

[OzJohnnie]

We talk a little MIAC and UST at the 41:50 mark

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/325219891519217?sfns=mo

Bummer that you didn't get the interview with Caruso. On the record comments would have been an interesting development (and likely a good new dose of gasoline for the fire).

[BDB]

STO Parents' Association spokescelebrity, Lori Loughlin, was unavailable for comment regarding the integrity of college admission test result claims.

<< rim shot >> Goodnight Everybody!  < mic drop >

[ITH radio]

We talk a little MIAC and UST at the 41:50 mark

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/325219891519217?sfns=mo

Bummer that you didn't get the interview with Caruso. On the record comments would have been an interesting development (and likely a good new dose of gasoline for the fire).

Close but no cigar. Friday timing didn't work and I'm sure UST went into no comment mode.

[miac952]

But again, that doesn't mean it's not something Anderson isn't pushing - Olaf loves viewing itself as an academic elite.

They don't just believe it, they actually are an elite academic school, especially compared to other MIAC schools not named Carleton and Mac. STO's president is a fool but he is not bluffing on the academic merits of his school. These weak, timid, pathetic "Coalition of Losers" aren't losing in life after Division 3 football I can assure you that.

The Oles have labeled themselves as academic elite and tried to group in with Mac and Carleton, but there is a gap between those two and St Olaf. UST & Gustavus are the next tier and just as close to St Olaf as St Olaf is to the top two, based on ACT & GPA. Feel free to argue those metrics if you want but it's what is most accessible to uniformly measure enrolled classes. St Olaf has done some nice marketing to throw themselves in with Carleton and Mac.

Carleton - ACT 31-34 - GPA 3.8
Mac - ACT 29-32 - GPA - 3.8
St Olaf - ACT 25-31 - GPA - 3.7
St Thomas - ACT 24-29 GPA - 3.6
Gustavus - ACT 24-30 GPA - 3.6

This may be true. St Olaf has a 36% acceptance rate, St Thomas has an 85% acceptance rate, Gustavus is 67%. Good marketing or not, St Olaf is seen as prestigious, and St Thomas/Gustavus are not as much. Additionally, my original post didn't claim they were light years ahead of the next best in the MIAC, just that they were better off academically than the rest, which is true. I think we can all agree that those 5 schools are great academic institutions based off those numbers. Especially that top one 

No doubt. I would even argue there is a gap between 1&2 too, which should make you happy! My simple point I was trying to make was somewhere along the way St Olaf got hooked in with the Top 2, and I am not so sure that has been earned quite yet. St Olaf is a great school, and clearly the 3rd "best" by a number of metrics, but it is still a few steps behind the two above it.

[miac952]

After hearing the Reusse podcast, I was curious who the basketball coach was that called him at 6am? He stated it was not Tauer. But, it was clear whoever called him was very upset with the direction this was going in booting UST, based on how he described the conversation.

At a minimum I gave Coach Johnson from Bethel credit. He at least provided some off the cuff quotes on his personal opinions. Regardless of the side everyone else is just hiding behind the veil of their communication departments or going silent.

[faunch]

We talk a little MIAC and UST at the 41:50 mark

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/325219891519217?sfns=mo

Bummer that you didn't get the interview with Caruso. On the record comments would have been an interesting development (and likely a good new dose of gasoline for the fire).

Close but no cigar. Friday timing didn't work and I'm sure UST went into no comment mode.

Maybe I'll snowshoe over Glenn's 🏡 and see if i can get him to spill the beans. On second thought it's nasty out and I'm not walking even a block outside today!

[Ron Boerger]

St. Olaf's president may very well be pushing this. But I know how college faculties work. I can almost guarantee that St. Olaf's faculty would be howling mad if the administration passed a new policy that required St. Olaf students to miss that much class time.

I get that time away from campus is an issue, but the SAA makes it work. And those colleges are generally thought of as higher tier academic institutions. Pulling out the two TX schools, which are football affiliates only, Hendrix is 7 hours from Sewanee, 8.5 from Centre, 9 from Ogelthorpe in ATL traffic. Their only relatively short road trip is Rhodes at 3 hours. And it's not just one school. Centre is, arguably, worse off than Hendrix. Closest is Sewanee at 4.5 hours. Sure there is a somewhat tight core of Ogelthorpe and Berry and BSC and Sewanee, but then the next cluster is Milsaps to Rhodes or Rhodes to Hendrix, and Hendrix to Milsaps is a long way.

Those clusters are really nowhere near each other either. Compact is great. W&L is darn near the center of the ODAC and I don't think they have a conference trip more than 3 hours. So while they probably fit better in the SAA, I know why they stay, and completely support them staying, in the ODAC. But the SAA does show it can be done if you want to.

With the SAA, the distance is a factor mostly out of necessity though, right? If those schools could be a part of a conference located in the same metro, with almost all other schools within an hour (or slightly more for SJU and one long trip to Concordia), surely that would be preferable. If the only option was long travel, that's a different story but it sure seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.

Yeah I don't disagree. As I said, W&L would fit great in the SAA, but the ODAC is much better geographically. So W&L is living that argument. I was just pointing out that it CAN work, not that it is what should happen.

Another factor is size. The SAA consists of eight schools, which means four travel dates for single round-robin sports (such as football) and seven travel dates for double round-robin sports (such as men's basketball). The MWC, were it to replace St. Norbert with St. Olaf, would remain a ten-school league except for football, in which it would be an eleven-school league. That means five or six travel dates for football, and nine travel dates for the double round-robin sports.

Heck, the SAA used to make it work back in the SCAC days where you had schools scattered from Indiana to Colorado.  Don't ask me how when weekends could consist of a flight from back east to Colorado Springs one day, followed the next by a flight to Dallas or San Antonio, then another back home.   Their current configuration is absolutely compact by comparison.

[jamtod]

After hearing the Reusse podcast, I was curious who the basketball coach was that called him at 6am? He stated it was not Tauer. But, it was clear whoever called him was very upset with the direction this was going in booting UST, based on how he described the conversation.

At a minimum I gave Coach Johnson from Bethel credit. He at least provided some off the cuff quotes on his personal opinions. Regardless of the side everyone else is just hiding behind the veil of their communication departments or going silent.

I've got no love or Reusse, but I did crack up outloud when he talked about liking Caruso even though he's "a little Flecky" for his tastes.

JB - maybe you'd have better luck getting in contact with Caruso if you contact him in St Paul, not Minneapolis 
(this is tongue in cheek - please don't block me, sir. Technically UST does have a Minneapolis campus but it's mostly graduate students, which aren't allowed to play in the MIAC)

[ITH radio]

Fair point. It's called the Twin Cities for a reason 

Responded to our email quickly, then went radio silent. Hopefully we'll be able to track him down (in St Paul) some other time. We did have a nice interview with the UST SID on the show back in 2012.