FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[faunch]

On Reusse Unchained tonight Patrick said the bylaw change vote is all but a done and UST will be out. Time will tell if his sources are right.

I heard it too, he said the vote could be a move to prevent the MIAC from breaking up if UST is allowed to stay. Also said UST could preempt the vote by announcing they were leaving. Ruesse thought some schools like Gustavus, Bethel and others could call the bluff of the schools threatening to leave in an attempt keep the league intact. Nothing new of course but it did sound like he had good sources. He also mentioned some folks at SJU were telling him to count on 2 more SJU/UST games as it will be a 2 year process to leave.

34:50 mark if i recall correctly
https://www.skornorth.com/reusse-unchained/2019/05/i-think-less-of-rosas-because-he-allowed-himself-to-be-manipulated-like-that-today-ep-23/

If Reusse is correct i fully expect U$T and SJU to pound the **** out of Ole and others the next two years! I know for a fact they both held back this year.

[TheChucker]

On Reusse Unchained tonight Patrick said the bylaw change vote is all but a done and UST will be out. Time will tell if his sources are right.

I heard it too, he said the vote could be a move to prevent the MIAC from breaking up if UST is allowed to stay. Also said UST could preempt the vote by announcing they were leaving. Ruesse thought some schools like Gustavus, Bethel and others could call the bluff of the schools threatening to leave in an attempt keep the league intact. Nothing new of course but it did sound like he had good sources. He also mentioned some folks at SJU were telling him to count on 2 more SJU/UST games as it will be a 2 year process to leave.

34:50 mark if i recall correctly
https://www.skornorth.com/reusse-unchained/2019/05/i-think-less-of-rosas-because-he-allowed-himself-to-be-manipulated-like-that-today-ep-23/

If Reusse is correct i fully expect U$T and SJU to pound the **** out of Ole and others the next two years! I know for a fact they both held back this year.

Both the Tommies and Johnnies have national aspirations this year far beyond the dregs of the MIAC. A complete near triple digit monkey stomp could be tempting, but it would be wise to pull and rest starters as soon as the game's in hand. I'd rather see healthy teams compete against the likes of UMHB, MU, UWW, etc.

[OzJohnnie]

It is unfortunate that football is driving this schism, as all the other sports provide good competition and a fantastic opportunity for MIAC students.  I wonder if there is a football only solution that can be reached?

[faunch]

On Reusse Unchained tonight Patrick said the bylaw change vote is all but a done and UST will be out. Time will tell if his sources are right.

I heard it too, he said the vote could be a move to prevent the MIAC from breaking up if UST is allowed to stay. Also said UST could preempt the vote by announcing they were leaving. Ruesse thought some schools like Gustavus, Bethel and others could call the bluff of the schools threatening to leave in an attempt keep the league intact. Nothing new of course but it did sound like he had good sources. He also mentioned some folks at SJU were telling him to count on 2 more SJU/UST games as it will be a 2 year process to leave.

34:50 mark if i recall correctly
https://www.skornorth.com/reusse-unchained/2019/05/i-think-less-of-rosas-because-he-allowed-himself-to-be-manipulated-like-that-today-ep-23/

If Reusse is correct i fully expect U$T and SJU to pound the **** out of Ole and others the next two years! I know for a fact they both held back this year.

Both the Tommies and Johnnies have national aspirations this year far beyond the dregs of the MIAC. A complete near triple digit monkey stomp could be tempting, but it would be wise to pull and rest starters as soon as the game's in hand. I'd rather see healthy teams compete against the likes of UMHB, MU, UWW, etc.

Upon further consideration SJU is going to need to handle the C.O.L. with kid gloves unless they want to be the next team in the league to get their eviction notice.

[BDB]

It is unfortunate that football is driving this schism, as all the other sports provide good competition and a fantastic opportunity for MIAC students.  I wonder if there is a football only solution that can be reached?

Stop making sense! 

[USTBench]

I just wish this didn't mean an end to the Tommie/Johnnie rivalry, but, unless SJU can be convinced to leave with us, a la Jerry McGuire, it probably is.

I watched the UND/NDSU rivalry end in the early 2000s and it was just a total bummer. Now  they play each other pretty regularly again, and it's just not the same. The new generation of students don't know or remember what it was all about. Maybe once UND/NDSU start playing each other in football annually some of the old vitriol will come back.

As long as Superman has Lex Luther all is right with the world, in my opinion (pick who you want to be in this analogy). I don't care if UST is playing Hamline, Mankato State or The Little Sisters of the Poor the rest of the year, I just want that one game against SJU (and a second game with Bethel). Hopefully the powers that be can keep that alive and that we somehow are in the same division/conference.

[sowilson]

I'll have to look for that. My favorite Minnesota beer is Summit Oatmeal Stout, although I hear great things about Summit's Czech-style pilsener, Dakota Soul.

Dakota Soul is nice.  Another brewery to look at is Indeed.  They have a wide variety of beers on offer, my favorite is Indeed Mexican Honey, a lager at %8.5 ABV.  Be vary careful with that one.  They have started making the only light beer that I enjoy which is the Mexican Honey Light at a more normal %5.5 ABV.  It tastes great and you can actually drink two of them.

It's a wonderful time to be alive with all of the fine beers being made these days.

[hazzben]

If Reusse is correct i fully expect U$T and SJU to pound the **** out of Ole and others the next two years! I know for a fact they both held back this year.

I think UST will go Nuclear on St. Olaf. And I plan on attending the game 

The X-Factor is that Olaf is absolutely trending up (which is the evil genius behind their leading the COL). They are significantly better in almost every way. Better coaching staff, sounder scheme, better starters, deeper roster. They were toxic dump a few years ago. Almost no upperclassmen, several garbage recruiting classes in a row, and bad morale.

I don't think they can win, but I think a 56-0 score might actually be more indicative of UST going for the jugular all game long. It won't look as ugly as 97-0, but that's only because Olaf will actually have MIAC caliber players on the field this time around.

There's no love lost between Caruso and Killian from what I can gather. But I also don't get the sense Killian is in any way pushing for the ouster. That doesn't mean he isn't still the one who will have to take it on the chin come the fall.

That said, if UST gets the boot and Olaf somehow upsets UST this fall (it's gonna be an emotional game played by 18-22 year old young men), Killian might get a statue on campus and a lifetime contract.

For my money, I'd love to see UST go full throttle, get up 35-0 early in the 3rd quarter. And then start downing the ball inside the 5 yard line for the remainder of the game. Sort of a, "Is this what you were wanting us to do??" I'd love that as it pertains to Prez Anderson. But it would suck for Killian and the players, who are the real cannon fodder in all of this (as are all the MIAC coaches and athletes).

[57Johnnie]

It is unfortunate that football is driving this schism, as all the other sports provide good competition and a fantastic opportunity for MIAC students.  I wonder if there is a football only solution that can be reached?

Stop making sense! 

Quit keeping score and make sure every player on every roster gets equal playing time so nobody's feelings are hurt.
Funny thing is we all got a scoreboard on life whether we like it or not.
If you have never been Monkey Stomped you haven't done much. 

[OldAuggie]

Chatter on another board (GopherHole) says that UST announcing the move up before getting the boot from the MIAC is likely.

[jknezek]

Chatter on another board (GopherHole) says that UST announcing the move up before getting the boot from the MIAC is likely.

I think several of us concluded this was likely when the discussion first opened. Saves face for every one and, if given a few years to make it happen, probably just accelerates something UST was looking at anyway. Probably would have been better for everyone if it had been handled quietly, but there are only so many people who care about DIII anyway. Outside of this board and a few thousand people in (mostly) Minnesota, quiet or loud only makes a small difference in DIII space.

[GoldandBlueBU]

I'm curious as to why nothing went through in the last meeting, if this is such a foregone conclusion? I don't understand why they would have tabled that issue, if it was all but a done deal? Has something changed since that meeting?

Maybe UST asked for the delay, and said something to the effect of "Ok, we know we're out, keep it quiet and let us get our ducks in a row and we'll announce it in the near future."?  Perhaps a way to help both parties look better as UST can look as if they're leaving on their own accord, and the CoL ultimately get what they want anyway, so they play along?

[jamtod]

I'm curious as to why nothing went through in the last meeting, if this is such a foregone conclusion? I don't understand why they would have tabled that issue, if it was all but a done deal? Has something changed since that meeting?

Maybe UST asked for the delay, and said something to the effect of "Ok, we know we're out, keep it quiet and let us get our ducks in a row and we'll announce it in the near future."?  Perhaps a way to help both parties look better as UST can look as if they're leaving on their own accord, and the CoL ultimately get what they want anyway, so they play along?

If that was really the plan, I would think the comments from Esten about goals for the future of the MIAC and D3 would have been more coy, rather than stating something to the effect of "We want to stay in the MIAC and find a plan for long term stability." I guess maybe this way they can make the Oles, etc look like the bad guys (they are) but I'm not sure it looks great for UST that way either.

I think the plan for that last meeting was always (or at least in the days leading up to it) just to put something (or not) on the agenda for the next meeting, not to have any final vote.

[hazzben]

The goal was always late spring from what I know. Probably needed to get it in the agenda first.

Word was out on TomToss, but not to the broader public. It sounds like someone from UST wisely let a few sympathetic members of the media know the shenanigans that were taking place. Initially to hopefully bring it out into the public eye and garner enough sympathy to prevent ouster. Falling short of that, to control the narrative in such a way that the COL (especially Olaf) look really pathetic.

To that end, KFAN just did a segment today highlighting the stupidity of kicking out a founding member. Especially one that attracts media coverage to the whole league.

[GoldandBlueBU]

The goal was always late spring from what I know. Probably needed to get it in the agenda first.

Word was out on TomToss, but not to the broader public. It sounds like someone from UST wisely let a few sympathetic members of the media know the shenanigans that were taking place. Initially to hopefully bring it out into the public eye and garner enough sympathy to prevent ouster. Falling short of that, to control the narrative in such a way that the COL (especially Olaf) look really pathetic.

To that end, KFAN just did a segment today highlighting the stupidity of kicking out a founding member. Especially one that attracts media coverage to the whole league.

Which KFAN show?