FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[miac952]

Enough is enough. Now St Olaf's President is trying squash the once in a generation Jeopardy Champion because he is too good. https://t.co/OnR0lp6Six

And, if you are still in the mood for some satire Soucheray has chimed in.
‪https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/01/joe-soucheray-miac-future-st-thomas-column-mn-college-sports/‬;

[faunch]

Some interesting tidbits in Shooter's sunday column: https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/01/charley-walters-twins-in-market-for-dallas-keuchel-craig-kimbrel/?utm_content=tw-PioneerPress&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social

Rachel Garcia, the UCLA starter who beat the Gophers 7-2 in the Women's College World Series opener on Thursday, threw fastballs in the 69- to 70-mph range.

In each ascending level of competition in college softball, pitchers' velocity increases on average about three miles per hour. Most pitchers' fastballs in the softball World Series are in the 69- to 70-mph range.

The actual release point of the softball is closer to 40' (for round numbers) to home plate.

70 MPH traversing 40 feet  in roughly the same as a baseball thrown from 60 feet (6 inches) at 105 MPH.
Not much time to react...

When she entered the game with 2 outs the game was over. Leadoff batter for the Gophs MaKenna Partain was just guessing and trying to get the bat on the ball.

[Warren Thompson]

Okay, DuffMan and other SJU  posters:
I hate to be a pest, so please forgive me. However, I am going ask this one more time. Has anyone seen or heard from my friend Johnnie Red? You had mentioned you saw him once or twice at a SJU football game last fall. Yet, since his retirement as a Federal Judge in the Twin Vitu s area, I have been totally unsuccessful in attempting to contact him multiple times since last summer. His former Federal/county court people won't provide me with any forwarding contact info, for obvious/ understandable reasons. I have attempted to call him many times per his previous phone numbers, however, those must have changed as there is no messaging available. I even sent a card, however, never heard back. I am baffled. Any update or info would be appreciated, if you know.  If any of you see him at one of the games this fall, please tell him I have been trying to contact him to say hello. Thanks. I am baffled.

former

I hope he's OK. A number of years ago my wife and I were in Minnesota for a family wedding and he graciously took us on a tour of the St. John's campus.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

Breaking news from NYC--- the Twins have been "involuntarily removed" from the American League! 

[MUC57]

Breaking news from NYC--- the Twins have been "involuntarily removed" from the American League!

Shocking! 

[TheChucker]

Some interesting tidbits in Shooter's sunday column: https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/01/charley-walters-twins-in-market-for-dallas-keuchel-craig-kimbrel/?utm_content=tw-PioneerPress&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social

That $20M figure for D2 is beyond ridiculous. Shooter must have pulled that from....well, you know where.

MSUM, UMD and SCS with D1 hockey spend $10-$11M while BSU spends $7M and that includes scholarships. The remaining non hockey schools average $6M including scholarships. UST already spends $5M not including any financial aid to athletes.

[Texas Ole]

Some interesting tidbits in Shooter's sunday column: https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/01/charley-walters-twins-in-market-for-dallas-keuchel-craig-kimbrel/?utm_content=tw-PioneerPress&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social

That $20M figure for D2 is beyond ridiculous. Shooter must have pulled that from....well, you know where.

MSUM, UMD and SCS with D1 hockey spend $10-$11M while BSU spends $7M and that includes scholarships. The remaining non hockey schools average $6M including scholarships. UST already spends $5M not including any financial aid to athletes.

Might be a little high, but UST also sponsors more sports.  It might also include added facility costs and those associated to a private school that are not present at those schools.  It would be interesting to know the difference in cost between D1 and D2.  I have sympathy for the UST athletes that have no clue where they will play in the future.  If UST moves up there are likely a few athletes that could lose playing time and maybe a roster spot to a new athlete.  I thought I read where UST is committed to not dropping sports, but I think that has to be a concern.  I feel for the UST athletes and their general student body that will be effected by this decision.

[stanbob]

Again, UST(d) has been looking for years to move up, by playing their cards the way they did they won a publicity coup beyond imagination...

[TheChucker]

Some interesting tidbits in Shooter's sunday column: https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/01/charley-walters-twins-in-market-for-dallas-keuchel-craig-kimbrel/?utm_content=tw-PioneerPress&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social

That $20M figure for D2 is beyond ridiculous. Shooter must have pulled that from....well, you know where.

MSUM, UMD and SCS with D1 hockey spend $10-$11M while BSU spends $7M and that includes scholarships. The remaining non hockey schools average $6M including scholarships. UST already spends $5M not including any financial aid to athletes.

Might be a little high, but UST also sponsors more sports.  It might also include added facility costs and those associated to a private school that are not present at those schools.  It would be interesting to know the difference in cost between D1 and D2.  I have sympathy for the UST athletes that have no clue where they will play in the future.  If UST moves up there are likely a few athletes that could lose playing time and maybe a roster spot to a new athlete.  I thought I read where UST is committed to not dropping sports, but I think that has to be a concern.  I feel for the UST athletes and their general student body that will be effected by this decision.

Just as a reference, Augustana (private) spends $9.5M without hockey. UST would need to spend about $3M more for hockey to be on par with the other D1 schools.

Per a query of the Equity in Athletics data, the median athletic budget for a private D1 FCS school (I excluded the Ivies) is about $20M. It's interesting that the average FCS school spends more on basketball than football. 

[jamtod]

Some interesting tidbits in Shooter's sunday column: https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/01/charley-walters-twins-in-market-for-dallas-keuchel-craig-kimbrel/?utm_content=tw-PioneerPress&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social

That $20M figure for D2 is beyond ridiculous. Shooter must have pulled that from....well, you know where.

MSUM, UMD and SCS with D1 hockey spend $10-$11M while BSU spends $7M and that includes scholarships. The remaining non hockey schools average $6M including scholarships. UST already spends $5M not including any financial aid to athletes.

Might be a little high, but UST also sponsors more sports.  It might also include added facility costs and those associated to a private school that are not present at those schools.  It would be interesting to know the difference in cost between D1 and D2.  I have sympathy for the UST athletes that have no clue where they will play in the future.  If UST moves up there are likely a few athletes that could lose playing time and maybe a roster spot to a new athlete.  I thought I read where UST is committed to not dropping sports, but I think that has to be a concern.  I feel for the UST athletes and their general student body that will be effected by this decision.

Just as a reference, Augustana (private) spends $9.5M without hockey. UST would need to spend about $3M more for hockey to be on par with the other D1 schools.

Per a query of the Equity in Athletics data, the median athletic budget for a private D1 FCS school (I excluded the Ivies) is about $20M. It's interesting that the average FCS school spends more on basketball than football.

What do these expense figures actually account for? If it's just operating expenses, it doesn't take into account the additional athletic scholarships, which even at partial scholarships are going to add up quickly.

[5 Words or Less]

Football expenses 2003 to 2017
Source: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

	2003	2017	Net $ Increase	% Increase
Augsburg	$138,162	$386353	$248,191	180%
Bethel	$345,262	$507,588	$162,326	47%
Carleton	$209,549	$397,144	$187,595	90%
Concordia.	$246,514	$483,334	$236,820	96%
Gustavus.	$224,201	$515,552	$291,351	130%
Hamline	$143,322	$415,800	$272,478	190%
St. Johns.	--	--	--	--
St. Olaf	$166,797	$432,259	$265,462	159%
St. Thomas	$275,033	$1,166,725	$891,692	324%

[miac952]

Football expenses 2003 to 2017
Source: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

	2003	2017	Net $ Increase	% Increase
Augsburg	$138,162	$386353	$248,191	180%
Bethel	$345,262	$507,588	$162,326	47%
Carleton	$209,549	$397,144	$187,595	90%
Concordia.	$246,514	$483,334	$236,820	96%
Gustavus.	$224,201	$515,552	$291,351	130%
Hamline	$143,322	$415,800	$272,478	190%
St. Johns.	--	--	--	--
St. Olaf	$166,797	$432,259	$265,462	159%
St. Thomas	$275,033	$1,166,725	$891,692	324%

2016 would provide greater equivalency. 2017 was the Target Field production.

[jamtod]

Football expenses 2003 to 2017
Source: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

	2003	2017	Net $ Increase	% Increase
Augsburg	$138,162	$386353	$248,191	180%
Bethel	$345,262	$507,588	$162,326	47%
Carleton	$209,549	$397,144	$187,595	90%
Concordia.	$246,514	$483,334	$236,820	96%
Gustavus.	$224,201	$515,552	$291,351	130%
Hamline	$143,322	$415,800	$272,478	190%
St. Johns.	--	--	--	--
St. Olaf	$166,797	$432,259	$265,462	159%
St. Thomas	$275,033	$1,166,725	$891,692	324%

2016 would provide greater equivalency. 2017 was the Target Field production.

I'd been hammering on that same thing whenever I saw it. From mobile, I struggled to find the data for a year other than 2017, but I pulled it up this morning. Expenses for 2015 and 2016 were pretty similar to 2017, so the impact of the Target Field game doesn't appear to be significant (or included) in these numbers.

[Jonny Utah]

Football expenses 2003 to 2017
Source: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

	2003	2017	Net $ Increase	% Increase
Augsburg	$138,162	$386353	$248,191	180%
Bethel	$345,262	$507,588	$162,326	47%
Carleton	$209,549	$397,144	$187,595	90%
Concordia.	$246,514	$483,334	$236,820	96%
Gustavus.	$224,201	$515,552	$291,351	130%
Hamline	$143,322	$415,800	$272,478	190%
St. Johns.	--	--	--	--
St. Olaf	$166,797	$432,259	$265,462	159%
St. Thomas	$275,033	$1,166,725	$891,692	324%

2016 would provide greater equivalency. 2017 was the Target Field production.

I'd been hammering on that same thing whenever I saw it. From mobile, I struggled to find the data for a year other than 2017, but I pulled it up this morning. Expenses for 2015 and 2016 were pretty similar to 2017, so the impact of the Target Field game doesn't appear to be significant (or included) in these numbers.

What do the revenues look like?

[jamtod]

Here's the raw data. I might be missing something because these tables show the same # for Revenue and Expense:
2003   275033
2004   285183
2005   327006
2006   407157
2007   444317
2008   493115
2009   533801
2010   493100
2011   608257
2012   645186
2013   804850
2014   934684
2015   1138817
2016   1082704
2017   1166725