FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sjusection105]

Curious to see how J.W. Windsor pans out for the Johnnies.  They've got some big shoes to fill on the defensive front.  Windsor's been around the block--I'm always a bit nervous with a situation like his.

Could be Snoop Dawg's nephew....

[art76]

That being said, I started at Mac, dropped out for the Navy, transferred to SJU to finish and took summer classes at SCSU while at SJU to speed up the whole process (plus took five classes a semester at SJU - I was ready to get going with life).  So you never know the path that someone will take to get where they are going.  Some are lower probably and higher effort, but I guess that doesn't mean they are wrong.

Like Oz, I also transferred, which I have shared in part before. Full disclosure follows - When I graduated from high school I had two interests, cars and the outdoors, neither of which do you really need to go to college for. I also liked to play football, but I wasn't big enough. In the spring of my senior year I ran the mile and two mile events in track and had a running weight of 155 at 6'1". So I went to be a smoke eater in New Mexico with the US Forest Service to be in the woods. Mostly, I ran a chain saw and stacked wood for fire breaks. They cut us loose (it was just a summer job) at the end of October because there weren't many fires and didn't need us any more. Got back home and picked up work at a ski area, which at the time was my second favorite sport. Decided to jump into school and started classes in January at the local Community College. The following fall, I went to Houghton College, about an hour and a half from my home. It had a great soccer team, but only inter-mural flag football. But I started to finally fill out and started lifting with some guys. Fast forward a year and I am now pushing 195 of lean, mean, fighting machine. I transfer to Bethel as a Junior academically, but still have three seasons of eligibility left. By the start of my second season at Bethel I was up to 224 and could run a 10k in 42:07. Glory days. My last semester at BU I was taking only one class and working full-time waiting tables at a Perkins until graduation.

[astro9046]

Here's what I'll say about my son JW Windsor and his path. For you Johnnie fans, I would suggest you take the time to talk to him at a game and make your own decision on who he is. He's had a long path which if he could have a mulligan he would do it different, and respects the fact that everyone will have an opinion of him and his choice on his path. As a God fearing family we'll take the insults and uncertainty of his situation, as that is human nature. I would say that all 5 institutions have welcomed him with open arms and he never let the institution or coaches down with his drive in the weight room or on the field. Always chosen as a team captain by teammates and coaches, because he is invested in success.
SDSM he chose over 7 D1 offers/preferred walk-on because of the Head coach, who ended up leaving to a D1 program the next year, so chose to sit a year and play D1 locally. Got injured in Rugby and was released from NAU due to medical reasons. He had to make a decision JUCO and on to a local D1 school or D3 and finish out.
He chose D3 due to his academic aspirations, and not wanting to play JUCO.
He chose Lake Forest and liked Coach Cat who recruits Arizona heavy; however he left with 2 weeks till fall camp. Now that situation is between Coach Cat and JW, but I can tell you Coach Cat and this family are solid. JW opened up the Chandler High School door for him and we appreciate Coach Cat.
JW needed to be close to home and CLU was close and JW loves that school and his coaches and teammates there, and the feeling is very reciprocal with them; however the Cost was too much for me to afford since I'm a single dad with one more at home. This isn't what JW wanted but financially it had to be done.
Having a relationship with SJU I reached out and again the coaches (who have known JW since 2012) accepted him with open arms.
D3 allows Players to transfer so if it's such an issue then have that loop hole closed, and as Pat told me "Transfers tend not do as well after transferring" Agreed, but we have to provide opportunities for it to play out.
Look I'm sure some of you will be rude on this and some of you will have a grudge and some of you will put yourselves in his shoes and understand! The real story here is how a young man continued to keep his nose to the grind stone and move forward with his decisions. I'm proud of my son and his resilience and drive, as a military man I see him not giving up and having to make hard moral decisions and still remain focused.
I've put it all out there for you and opened it up. I'm hoping if you have rude things to say, you'll hold till the end of the season. And please feel free to contact any coach JW has played for about his character and drive to succeed and work hard.
As for me being a jerk, I'm sure I am to some but I'm just a man that can handle the cyber bullying.  I've seen enough evil in my lifetime to practice Politeness & Kindness at all times. As the "Stranger virtue" Benedictine priest used.
Let's play football and GO Johnnies

[miac952]

Lots of good back and forth on the transfer topic, especially since it seems to be a more popular way to fuel up on talent year to year, when compared to a decade ago.

The one thing I would say about it is, the dimensional focus around a transfer in DIII should be rooted in the University and its academics and the goals of the student after graduation and football. When kids are transferring into and around DIII seeking the best football opportunity the odds of success become lower. And even worse, the likelihood of a disruption on the overall culture of the program can become problematic. DIII is not, and should never be "Last Chance U."

Look at two recent successful transfer examples. Jackson Erdmann and Jordan Roberts. By all accounts both sought out the schools they chose for a lot of reasons other than football first. Heck, Roberts came on campus not sure whether he was going to even play the game again. Then they talked with the coaches, found a good fit, and as far as I know, have embraced the opportunities afforded to them on campus. Their achievements reach far beyond the football field. If they would have ended up as back-ups or walked away from the game I don't think either would have changed their course. An N size of two of course, but good examples in how transfers can work well in the DIII campus environment.

[bennie]

Here's what I'll say about my son JW Windsor and his path. For you Johnnie fans, I would suggest you take the time to talk to him at a game and make your own decision on who he is. He's had a long path which if he could have a mulligan he would do it different, and respects the fact that everyone will have an opinion of him and his choice on his path. As a God fearing family we'll take the insults and uncertainty of his situation, as that is human nature. I would say that all 5 institutions have welcomed him with open arms and he never let the institution or coaches down with his drive in the weight room or on the field. Always chosen as a team captain by teammates and coaches, because he is invested in success.
SDSM he chose over 7 D1 offers/preferred walk-on because of the Head coach, who ended up leaving to a D1 program the next year, so chose to sit a year and play D1 locally. Got injured in Rugby and was released from NAU due to medical reasons. He had to make a decision JUCO and on to a local D1 school or D3 and finish out.
He chose D3 due to his academic aspirations, and not wanting to play JUCO.
He chose Lake Forest and liked Coach Cat who recruits Arizona heavy; however he left with 2 weeks till fall camp. Now that situation is between Coach Cat and JW, but I can tell you Coach Cat and this family are solid. JW opened up the Chandler High School door for him and we appreciate Coach Cat.
JW needed to be close to home and CLU was close and JW loves that school and his coaches and teammates there, and the feeling is very reciprocal with them; however the Cost was too much for me to afford since I'm a single dad with one more at home. This isn't what JW wanted but financially it had to be done.
Having a relationship with SJU I reached out and again the coaches (who have known JW since 2012) accepted him with open arms.
D3 allows Players to transfer so if it's such an issue then have that loop hole closed, and as Pat told me "Transfers tend not do as well after transferring" Agreed, but we have to provide opportunities for it to play out.
Look I'm sure some of you will be rude on this and some of you will have a grudge and some of you will put yourselves in his shoes and understand! The real story here is how a young man continued to keep his nose to the grind stone and move forward with his decisions. I'm proud of my son and his resilience and drive, as a military man I see him not giving up and having to make hard moral decisions and still remain focused.
I've put it all out there for you and opened it up. I'm hoping if you have rude things to say, you'll hold till the end of the season. And please feel free to contact any coach JW has played for about his character and drive to succeed and work hard.
As for me being a jerk, I'm sure I am to some but I'm just a man that can handle the cyber bullying.  I've seen enough evil in my lifetime to practice Politeness & Kindness at all times. As the "Stranger virtue" Benedictine priest used.
Let's play football and GO Johnnies

While I appreciate your trying to explain JW's journey, you really don't need to. It is what it is and it is no ones business but JW's. It certainly isn't the business of a bunch of D3 keyboard warriors. Everyone has a different path and as long as we aren't leaving destruction behind us, just keep moving forward. Welcome to the MIAC board and the the SJU family.

[MUC57]

Here's what I'll say about my son JW Windsor and his path. For you Johnnie fans, I would suggest you take the time to talk to him at a game and make your own decision on who he is. He's had a long path which if he could have a mulligan he would do it different, and respects the fact that everyone will have an opinion of him and his choice on his path. As a God fearing family we'll take the insults and uncertainty of his situation, as that is human nature. I would say that all 5 institutions have welcomed him with open arms and he never let the institution or coaches down with his drive in the weight room or on the field. Always chosen as a team captain by teammates and coaches, because he is invested in success.
SDSM he chose over 7 D1 offers/preferred walk-on because of the Head coach, who ended up leaving to a D1 program the next year, so chose to sit a year and play D1 locally. Got injured in Rugby and was released from NAU due to medical reasons. He had to make a decision JUCO and on to a local D1 school or D3 and finish out.
He chose D3 due to his academic aspirations, and not wanting to play JUCO.
He chose Lake Forest and liked Coach Cat who recruits Arizona heavy; however he left with 2 weeks till fall camp. Now that situation is between Coach Cat and JW, but I can tell you Coach Cat and this family are solid. JW opened up the Chandler High School door for him and we appreciate Coach Cat.
JW needed to be close to home and CLU was close and JW loves that school and his coaches and teammates there, and the feeling is very reciprocal with them; however the Cost was too much for me to afford since I'm a single dad with one more at home. This isn't what JW wanted but financially it had to be done.
Having a relationship with SJU I reached out and again the coaches (who have known JW since 2012) accepted him with open arms.
D3 allows Players to transfer so if it's such an issue then have that loop hole closed, and as Pat told me "Transfers tend not do as well after transferring" Agreed, but we have to provide opportunities for it to play out.
Look I'm sure some of you will be rude on this and some of you will have a grudge and some of you will put yourselves in his shoes and understand! The real story here is how a young man continued to keep his nose to the grind stone and move forward with his decisions. I'm proud of my son and his resilience and drive, as a military man I see him not giving up and having to make hard moral decisions and still remain focused.
I've put it all out there for you and opened it up. I'm hoping if you have rude things to say, you'll hold till the end of the season. And please feel free to contact any coach JW has played for about his character and drive to succeed and work hard.
As for me being a jerk, I'm sure I am to some but I'm just a man that can handle the cyber bullying.  I've seen enough evil in my lifetime to practice Politeness & Kindness at all times. As the "Stranger virtue" Benedictine priest used.
Let's play football and GO Johnnies

While I appreciate your trying to explain JW's journey, you really don't need to. It is what it is and it is no ones business but JW's. It certainly isn't the business of a bunch of D3 keyboard warriors. Everyone has a different path and as long as we aren't leaving destruction behind us, just keep moving forward. Welcome to the MIAC board and the the SJU family.

bennie

Hope you don't mind if an old Mount Union guy jumps in here.

First, let me say that, thanks to these boards, I have many friends from St. John's. I am also a huge Johnnies fan.

Now, having said that, I thought your response above was excellent. I guess it took a lady to show a proper approach to comments made by the aforementioned "D3 keyboard warriors". Hopefully everyone can slow down and no feathers will get ruffled further. +K from me.

By the way, I live alone, am Catholic, college educated and have a good sense of humor.
(Sorry, I had to do that. I'm old, not dead. Go Bennies)!

[OzJohnnie]

That being said, I started at Mac, dropped out for the Navy, transferred to SJU to finish and took summer classes at SCSU while at SJU to speed up the whole process (plus took five classes a semester at SJU - I was ready to get going with life).  So you never know the path that someone will take to get where they are going.  Some are lower probably and higher effort, but I guess that doesn't mean they are wrong.

Like Oz, I also transferred, which I have shared in part before. Full disclosure follows - When I graduated from high school I had two interests, cars and the outdoors, neither of which do you really need to go to college for. I also liked to play football, but I wasn't big enough. In the spring of my senior year I ran the mile and two mile events in track and had a running weight of 155 at 6'1". So I went to be a smoke eater in New Mexico with the US Forest Service to be in the woods. Mostly, I ran a chain saw and stacked wood for fire breaks. They cut us loose (it was just a summer job) at the end of October because there weren't many fires and didn't need us any more. Got back home and picked up work at a ski area, which at the time was my second favorite sport. Decided to jump into school and started classes in January at the local Community College. The following fall, I went to Houghton College, about an hour and a half from my home. It had a great soccer team, but only inter-mural flag football. But I started to finally fill out and started lifting with some guys. Fast forward a year and I am now pushing 195 of lean, mean, fighting machine. I transfer to Bethel as a Junior academically, but still have three seasons of eligibility left. By the start of my second season at Bethel I was up to 224 and could run a 10k in 42:07. Glory days. My last semester at BU I was taking only one class and working full-time waiting tables at a Perkins until graduation.

Good golly, 70 lbs of muscle mass in two and a half years?  Someone was on the juice.   

[OzJohnnie]

Hear, hear, bennie.  Well said.

[art76]

That being said, I started at Mac, dropped out for the Navy, transferred to SJU to finish and took summer classes at SCSU while at SJU to speed up the whole process (plus took five classes a semester at SJU - I was ready to get going with life).  So you never know the path that someone will take to get where they are going.  Some are lower probably and higher effort, but I guess that doesn't mean they are wrong.

Like Oz, I also transferred, which I have shared in part before. Full disclosure follows - When I graduated from high school I had two interests, cars and the outdoors, neither of which do you really need to go to college for. I also liked to play football, but I wasn't big enough. In the spring of my senior year I ran the mile and two mile events in track and had a running weight of 155 at 6'1". So I went to be a smoke eater in New Mexico with the US Forest Service to be in the woods. Mostly, I ran a chain saw and stacked wood for fire breaks. They cut us loose (it was just a summer job) at the end of October because there weren't many fires and didn't need us any more. Got back home and picked up work at a ski area, which at the time was my second favorite sport. Decided to jump into school and started classes in January at the local Community College. The following fall, I went to Houghton College, about an hour and a half from my home. It had a great soccer team, but only inter-mural flag football. But I started to finally fill out and started lifting with some guys. Fast forward a year and I am now pushing 195 of lean, mean, fighting machine. I transfer to Bethel as a Junior academically, but still have three seasons of eligibility left. By the start of my second season at Bethel I was up to 224 and could run a 10k in 42:07. Glory days. My last semester at BU I was taking only one class and working full-time waiting tables at a Perkins until graduation.

Good golly, 70 lbs of muscle mass in two and a half years?  Someone was on the juice.   

Actually, it was about 3 1/2 years - all naturally. I was eating lots of calories a day and lifting hard. I went back to a high school gathering over Christmas break and nobody knew who I was - except my close friends who had seen the growth over the years. That was a real fun party! When they all found out it was me and that I was playing college football, my popularity rose dramatically. Big fish in a small pond, and all that. 

[OzJohnnie]

2019 MIAC Football Preseason Coaches' Poll
MIAC head football coaches voted for every team in the conference except their own. Points were assigned for each vote (eight for a first-place vote, seven for second, etc.). Teams are ranked in order of highest point total to lowest, with vote totals listed and first-place votes shown in parentheses.

1. Saint John's (7), 63
2. St. Thomas (2), 56
3. Bethel, 52
4. Concordia, 43
5. Gustavus, 36
6. St. Olaf, 29
7. Carleton, 19
8. Augsburg, 17
9. Hamline, 9

https://gojohnnies.com/news/2019/8/22/football-johnnies-predicted-to-repeat-as-miac-champions-in-preseason-poll.aspx

[Mr.MIAC]

I have no problem with a kid transferring multiple times. It's transfering to SJ2 that's the problem. The place attracts those with few options and/or questionable character traits. You see lots of thuggish behavior on and off the field. Sad...

[jamtod]

I have no problem with a kid transferring multiple times. It's transfering to SJ2 that's the problem. The place attracts those with few options and/or questionable character traits. You see lots of thuggish behavior on and off the field. Sad...

My wish for him is personal health and success, good studies, fun times, and a 4-win season on the field.

[Mr.MIAC]

I have no problem with a kid transferring multiple times. It's transfering to SJ2 that's the problem. The place attracts those with few options and/or questionable character traits. You see lots of thuggish behavior on and off the field. Sad...

My wish for him is personal health and success, good studies, fun times, and a 4-win season on the field.

Don't say that. We want SJ2 to win more than four games to boost our strength of schedule. I predict a six-win season for SJ2.

[art76]

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[jamtod]

I have no problem with a kid transferring multiple times. It's transfering to SJ2 that's the problem. The place attracts those with few options and/or questionable character traits. You see lots of thuggish behavior on and off the field. Sad...

My wish for him is personal health and success, good studies, fun times, and a 4-win season on the field.

Don't say that. We want SJ2 to win more than four games to boost our strength of schedule. I predict a six-win season for SJ2.

2 of them can be out of conference then. No impact to sos