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jamtod

Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
On the other hand, you could just score once and then punt on every other first down.  Get your punter a workout.  Punters are people, too.

I would enjoy that.
We might actually have a punter this year. TBD. Not sure how good at punting our QBs are this year though.

jamtod

Quote from: MUC57 on September 05, 2019, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
On the other hand, you could just score once and then punt on every other first down.  Get your punter a workout.  Punters are people, too.

Do they have a punter?  ???

Last year's primary punter was our Senior QB with 11 total punts. He graduated.
Next up was a Senior LB who had 8 punts. He's on the coaching staff now.

MUC57

Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: MUC57 on September 05, 2019, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
On the other hand, you could just score once and then punt on every other first down.  Get your punter a workout.  Punters are people, too.

Do they have a punter?  ???

Last year's primary punter was our Senior QB with 11 total punts. He graduated.
Next up was a Senior LB who had 8 punts. He's on the coaching staff now.

Just as I might have guessed!  8-)
I'm old! I get mixed up and I forget things! Go Everybody! 🏈 ☠

AO

Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: pied on September 05, 2019, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 09:36:54 AM
Quote from: pied on September 05, 2019, 09:29:34 AM
Is there one D1 champion for the nation? 

I assume that you mean D3.  Yes, there is one champ.  Here is a good FAQ regarding the playoff system:  https://d3football.com/interactive/faq/playoffs

I did, and thanks for the link!

Unless you count the NESCAC as a separate champ, since they don't participate in the playoffs (a la the Ivy League)
If you don't play any games against anyone else in D3 are you really D3?  Might as well call them D4.  Maybe someday their presidents will realize their student athletes won't start failing classes if they play a playoff game or two.

jamtod

Quote from: MUC57 on September 05, 2019, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: MUC57 on September 05, 2019, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
On the other hand, you could just score once and then punt on every other first down.  Get your punter a workout.  Punters are people, too.

Do they have a punter?  ???

Last year's primary punter was our Senior QB with 11 total punts. He graduated.
Next up was a Senior LB who had 8 punts. He's on the coaching staff now.

Just as I might have guessed!  8-)

Punting is for weenies.

32 total last year. That's way more than in some years. I think one year (2015 - Johnnie Gould Senior year) it was barely over 10 and we were by far the lowest in all of NCAA football. A good number of those were downed inside the 5 against St John's too.

DuffMan

Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 10:06:38 AM
I think one year (2015 - Johnnie Gould Senior year) it was barely over 10 and we were by far the lowest in all of NCAA football.
I think our punter, Charlie Carr, punted 12 times in the 2000 Stagg Bowl.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

miac952

Quote from: AO on September 05, 2019, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: pied on September 05, 2019, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 09:36:54 AM
Quote from: pied on September 05, 2019, 09:29:34 AM
Is there one D1 champion for the nation? 

I assume that you mean D3.  Yes, there is one champ.  Here is a good FAQ regarding the playoff system:  https://d3football.com/interactive/faq/playoffs

I did, and thanks for the link!

Unless you count the NESCAC as a separate champ, since they don't participate in the playoffs (a la the Ivy League)
If you don't play any games against anyone else in D3 are you really D3?  Might as well call them D4.  Maybe someday their presidents will realize their student athletes won't start failing classes if they play a playoff game or two.

Imagine if they did something really irrational like kicking out Williams for winning the NCAA Directors Cup each year. That would never happen with College Presidents though  ;D

jamtod

Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 10:06:38 AM
I think one year (2015 - Johnnie Gould Senior year) it was barely over 10 and we were by far the lowest in all of NCAA football.
I think our punter, Charlie Carr, punted 12 times in the 2000 Stagg Bowl.

I pulled up the stats from 2015 punting. Total was 34 for the year, but 22 of those were in the playoffs when the game plan shifts a bit (7 in the Stagg).

miac952

Pied - Welcome aboard. "Peak Carleton football", recently at least, was roughly a decade ago. They had an incredible combo platter of an All Everything Safety on D and a great QB - WR combo on O. They ended up about :10 seconds short of a MIAC title losing two comeback heartbreakers against the Tommies and Johnnies. Since then they have had very poor support from the school administration, a revolving door of head coaches, and a very predictable outcome from all of that on the field.

The DIII academic elite can compete (see Hopkins in Football and Williams in b-ball), but it takes a commitment from administration and athletic departments, as well as coaches that fit the niche.

AO

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Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 04, 2019, 08:18:42 PM
When is the last time the Cobbers made a quarterfinal appearance?  Seriously.  I don't care enough to research it.
Carleton and Hamline have a tough go of things.  Macalaster left the MIAC in football following the '02 season because they were that awful.

I can't really touch on rivalries other than SJU's.  SJU/U$T obviously garners the most attention.  SJU/Bethel can get heated.  SJU/Concordia used to be a great rivalry but has waned a bit in recent years.
If we're giving a MIAC history for Pied, you've got to mention Carleton's teams from 1992 and 2008.  The knights title in '92 gives them a more recent championship than St. Olaf or Gustavus have managed.  Their 7-3 2008 team is also recent enough to show winning at Carleton is possible.   

The Carleton/St. Olaf rivalry definitely has the best trophy and traditions in the MIAC.  The goat and the walk to downtown Northfield to turn the eagle statue to face the winning campus.

wm4

Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 10:28:43 AM

I pulled up the stats from 2015 punting. Total was 34 for the year, but 22 of those were in the playoffs when the game plan shifts a bit (7 in the Stagg).

Thank you for the reminder.  I'm still thawing out from those temps and that wind. 

jamtod

Quote from: wm4 on September 05, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 10:28:43 AM

I pulled up the stats from 2015 punting. Total was 34 for the year, but 22 of those were in the playoffs when the game plan shifts a bit (7 in the Stagg).

Thank you for the reminder.  I'm still thawing out from those temps and that wind.

Saturday's week 1 weather looks about perfect. High of 66F and cloudy.

Texas Ole

Pied,

Welcome to the board.  Um Ya Ya and Go Frogs!  To all the other fans suggesting he has seen good football of late Pied is probably thinking the opposite prior to last season.  You are all good by me as long as you don't start talking about that school in the town controlled by those home makers.  As a Texan who attend St. Olaf I will tell you that Carleton is a great choice.  I have a few friends from Texas that attended Carleton.

The St. Olaf/Carleton game is a lot of fun.  It's kind of an odd rivalry in the fact that the fans get along pretty well.  The football is almost secondary to other events.  They used to give out cereal and other stuff at the game.  The Mac game is also a very good game for Carleton.

As for smack talk please consult your friends from Rice for proper lines.  Welcome again.

jamtod

Some notes from Gene's Blog on tommiesports.com

Quote9) Three headlines off the Purple's first football depth chart released: A) Coach Glenn Caruso will start 15 seniors (kicker; six on offense; eight on defense). B) Junior Tommy Dolan of St. Thomas Academy will start at quarterback. The brother of ex-St. Thomas outfielder Jimmy Dolan, Tommy Dolan is the third St. Paul resident to start at QB for the Tommies going back 30 seasons, joining Nick Ambrasas and Greg Morse. C) The Toms' 46-player two-deep list has two true freshmen (backup CB Zach Ames and backup LB Jack Mohler) plus 11 sophomores.

I'm looking to see if the depth chart is public anywhere. Excited to see Dolan under center. He made some nice throws in the scrimmage last week.

hazzben

Quote from: jamtod on September 05, 2019, 08:56:08 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 05, 2019, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 04, 2019, 08:18:42 PM
When is the last time the Cobbers made a quarterfinal appearance?  Seriously.  I don't care enough to research it.

In an effort to avoid working on a lengthy report, I checked into my question.  The Cobbers have not won the MIAC since '04, with 2nd place finishes in '05, '08, '12, '13, and '14.  Their most recent playoff appearances have been '04  and '05, where they lost in the 2nd round both years.  I had to go back to '86 to find a legitimate deep playoff run.  I'd argue that Concordia is now a "Tier 2" team.  Because of the style of football they play, they can be tough to beat, but I don't see them as a legimate threat on a regular basis.

Thanks for doing the research. I was skeptical when I saw Concordia included in Tier 1 with the quarterfinal comment, although it's certainly accurate for the other 3 teams and Concordia did beat Bethel 3 years in a row (2015-2017).

I'd be curious the last time any of those Tier 2 teams ended the year 8-2. Seems like 8-2, even for Gustavus would be a high bar.
(I looked. Gustavus' last 8-2 was 1999. For Olaf it was 2011, with a string of them from 2005-2007. For Augsburg it is pre-1998, so doesn't show on the d3football.com history.)

I'm not gonna die on the hill of Cobbers being Tier 1. The quarterfinal comment was really to say at the end of a given season, the top team in Tier 1 tend to be a quarterfinal or better threat. Concordia hasn't been the top of Tier 1 in over a decade, but they do seem to be better than Tier 2. Maybe it's just that they are clearly the best of Tier 2, with GAC nipping at their heals. shrug