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OzJohnnie

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Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 23, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 21, 2019, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 21, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Final TD for SJU? Anyone who complained about this doesn't know football or sports in general. It was still a game. Someone mentioned it earlier, that score put it out of reach, period. Anything can happen in a less than 2-score game and 30secs. left.

While I have no issue with the td, I am curious how a score of 31-20 is a less than 2 score game. I am going to assume you meant less than 3 score game.

The lead was less than two scores to win or tie. 11 is less than two TD's (a quick td, an onside kick and another td wins the game.)

Ok, here is how it goes. A score does not have to mean a td, it can also be a field goal. Being down by 11 points is a 2 score game (not less than 2 scores). A td with a 2 point conversion and a field goal will tie the game. When you say less than 2 scores, that means 1 score, and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points (a td and 2 point conversion). Now if you had said less than a 2 td game, then you would have been correct, but it is not less than a 2 score game.

Fewer. You’re describing fewer than two scores. Less than two scores is 15 and under.

(I’m fully aware that MIacMan got lucky with his grammar. But luck wins games too.)

EDIT: Actually he didn’t get lucky at all. That’s exactly what he said and meant as I re-read his post.
  

RoyalsFan

#95446
Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 23, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 21, 2019, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 21, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Final TD for SJU? Anyone who complained about this doesn't know football or sports in general. It was still a game. Someone mentioned it earlier, that score put it out of reach, period. Anything can happen in a less than 2-score game and 30secs. left.

While I have no issue with the td, I am curious how a score of 31-20 is a less than 2 score game. I am going to assume you meant less than 3 score game.

The lead was less than two scores to win or tie. 11 is less than two TD's (a quick td, an onside kick and another td wins the game.)

Ok, here is how it goes. A score does not have to mean a td, it can also be a field goal. Being down by 11 points is a 2 score game (not less than 2 scores). A td with a 2 point conversion and a field goal will tie the game. When you say less than 2 scores, that means 1 score, and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points (a td and 2 point conversion). Now if you had said less than a 2 td game, then you would have been correct, but it is not less than a 2 score game.

Fewer. You're describing fewer than two scores. Less than two scores is 15 and under.

(I'm fully aware that MIacMan got lucky with his grammar. But luck wins games too.)

EDIT: Actually he didn't get lucky at all. That's exactly what he said and meant as I re-read his post.

And here I thought less and fewer meant the same thing. ;)

I guess this one boils down to semantics. When someone says less than 2, I take it to mean 0 or 1 and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points. But I now see how it can be taken the other way.

Pat Coleman

Two scores means you have to have possession of the ball twice in order to win. Therefore, two scores is any deficit of more than eight points.

We have a separate term for a 14-point deficit, which is to say, two touchdowns.
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MiacMan

Quote from: DuffMan on October 23, 2019, 11:02:53 PM
In high school, I wrote an honors English paper on the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer learns to shower and eventually installs a garbage disposal in his tub so that he can prepare food in the shower.  I got an A on it.  ;D

Ok, fess up Duff, it was really SJU that gave you an "A" on a paper about nothing.  ;D

DuffMan

Quote from: corn horn on October 23, 2019, 10:51:14 PM
With NDSU being the F-M area darlings, the Cobbers aren't getting fans in the stands the way the have done historically (usually a top 10 in d3 nationally). In the current state, they simply are not an entertaining team to watch. I would love to see a change.

Concordia used to (early-mid 2000s) have a pretty good fan base.  It's a bummer they aren't drawing like they used to.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

DuffMan

Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:15:16 AM
Ok, fess up Duff, it was really SJU that gave you an "A" on a paper about nothing.  ;D

Unfortunately, no.  The opportunity never came up in college. :'(

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

sowilson

Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2019, 02:18:14 PM
Veldman can sling it.  GAC needs more D.

Actually the GAC D is pretty good in light of how much time they are on the field.  One of the problems with the GAC offense is that it can't/won't grind out first downs, it's good at gaining big chunks of yards quickly and scoring quickly.  The downside of that style of offense is that your defense in on the field a lot.  Take a look at time of possession differences. GAC consistently runs less plays and has the ball 5 minutes less than their opponent. I believe HU ran 10 more plays and had the ball for 3-5 minutes more than GAC in a blowout loss.  If GAC wants to keep running the offense like that then they need to rotate more on the D-Line, so instead of using just 1 and 2's you need to mix in 3's and even some 4's so that your 1's and 2's aren't gassed in the 4th quarter.  In their 2 losses they played well and if not for some ill timed turnovers (Veldman's main chink in the armor) could have won one or both of those games.  I think the GAC-UST game might be the best game of the year in the MIAC.

MiacMan

Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 23, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 21, 2019, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 21, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Final TD for SJU? Anyone who complained about this doesn't know football or sports in general. It was still a game. Someone mentioned it earlier, that score put it out of reach, period. Anything can happen in a less than 2-score game and 30secs. left.

While I have no issue with the td, I am curious how a score of 31-20 is a less than 2 score game. I am going to assume you meant less than 3 score game.

The lead was less than two scores to win or tie. 11 is less than two TD's (a quick td, an onside kick and another td wins the game.)

Ok, here is how it goes. A score does not have to mean a td, it can also be a field goal. Being down by 11 points is a 2 score game (not less than 2 scores). A td with a 2 point conversion and a field goal will tie the game. When you say less than 2 scores, that means 1 score, and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points (a td and 2 point conversion). Now if you had said less than a 2 td game, then you would have been correct, but it is not less than a 2 score game.

Fewer. You're describing fewer than two scores. Less than two scores is 15 and under.

(I'm fully aware that MIacMan got lucky with his grammar. But luck wins games too.)

EDIT: Actually he didn't get lucky at all. That's exactly what he said and meant as I re-read his post.

Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

BDB

Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

Serenity now!!!   ;D

OzJohnnie

Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

  

jamtod

Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 23, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 21, 2019, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 21, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Final TD for SJU? Anyone who complained about this doesn't know football or sports in general. It was still a game. Someone mentioned it earlier, that score put it out of reach, period. Anything can happen in a less than 2-score game and 30secs. left.

While I have no issue with the td, I am curious how a score of 31-20 is a less than 2 score game. I am going to assume you meant less than 3 score game.

The lead was less than two scores to win or tie. 11 is less than two TD's (a quick td, an onside kick and another td wins the game.)

Ok, here is how it goes. A score does not have to mean a td, it can also be a field goal. Being down by 11 points is a 2 score game (not less than 2 scores). A td with a 2 point conversion and a field goal will tie the game. When you say less than 2 scores, that means 1 score, and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points (a td and 2 point conversion). Now if you had said less than a 2 td game, then you would have been correct, but it is not less than a 2 score game.

Fewer. You're describing fewer than two scores. Less than two scores is 15 and under.

(I'm fully aware that MIacMan got lucky with his grammar. But luck wins games too.)

EDIT: Actually he didn't get lucky at all. That's exactly what he said and meant as I re-read his post.

Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

Respect, like the toilets, works backwards down under. Disrespect is actually deep respect.

OzJohnnie

Quote from: jamtod on October 24, 2019, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 23, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 21, 2019, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 21, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Final TD for SJU? Anyone who complained about this doesn't know football or sports in general. It was still a game. Someone mentioned it earlier, that score put it out of reach, period. Anything can happen in a less than 2-score game and 30secs. left.

While I have no issue with the td, I am curious how a score of 31-20 is a less than 2 score game. I am going to assume you meant less than 3 score game.

The lead was less than two scores to win or tie. 11 is less than two TD's (a quick td, an onside kick and another td wins the game.)

Ok, here is how it goes. A score does not have to mean a td, it can also be a field goal. Being down by 11 points is a 2 score game (not less than 2 scores). A td with a 2 point conversion and a field goal will tie the game. When you say less than 2 scores, that means 1 score, and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points (a td and 2 point conversion). Now if you had said less than a 2 td game, then you would have been correct, but it is not less than a 2 score game.

Fewer. You're describing fewer than two scores. Less than two scores is 15 and under.

(I'm fully aware that MIacMan got lucky with his grammar. But luck wins games too.)

EDIT: Actually he didn't get lucky at all. That's exactly what he said and meant as I re-read his post.

Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

Respect, like the toilets, works backwards down under. Disrespect is actually deep respect.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  Only a complete moron would say it.
  

MiacMan

Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on October 24, 2019, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

Serenity now!!!   ;D

+K BDB! What I really need is to come over there to Sconiland for a few New Glarus products!

jamtod

Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 24, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: jamtod on October 24, 2019, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 24, 2019, 09:42:18 AM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 23, 2019, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on October 21, 2019, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: MiacMan on October 21, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Final TD for SJU? Anyone who complained about this doesn't know football or sports in general. It was still a game. Someone mentioned it earlier, that score put it out of reach, period. Anything can happen in a less than 2-score game and 30secs. left.

While I have no issue with the td, I am curious how a score of 31-20 is a less than 2 score game. I am going to assume you meant less than 3 score game.

The lead was less than two scores to win or tie. 11 is less than two TD's (a quick td, an onside kick and another td wins the game.)

Ok, here is how it goes. A score does not have to mean a td, it can also be a field goal. Being down by 11 points is a 2 score game (not less than 2 scores). A td with a 2 point conversion and a field goal will tie the game. When you say less than 2 scores, that means 1 score, and the most you can get from 1 score is 8 points (a td and 2 point conversion). Now if you had said less than a 2 td game, then you would have been correct, but it is not less than a 2 score game.

Fewer. You're describing fewer than two scores. Less than two scores is 15 and under.

(I'm fully aware that MIacMan got lucky with his grammar. But luck wins games too.)

EDIT: Actually he didn't get lucky at all. That's exactly what he said and meant as I re-read his post.

Ugh! I get no respect around here. First from RF and now from down under! How low can I go?

Respect, like the toilets, works backwards down under. Disrespect is actually deep respect.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  Only a complete moron would say it.

Thank you! That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me!

SagatagSam

I've seen it bandied about on Twitter the idea of ESPN College Gameday coming to Collegeville on November 7, 2020 for what could be the final Johnnie-Tommie football game. Nothing official, of course, just public daydreaming. And, as Gameday will be in a non-traditional site this weekend (Brookings, S.D. at the Dakota Marker Game between #1 North Dakota State and #3 South Dakota State), I've seen the complaining over the other places people think Gameday should have picked over "some lame FCS game" in "nowhere" Brookings.

Because we love rank speculation here, I did what I could to construct what games Johnnie-Tommie 2020 would be going head-to-head for Gameday:

The SEC always has big games between top 25 (and in many cases top 10, or even top 5 teams) this time of year, so there are a bunch to pick from.
Alabama at LSU
Arkansas at Auburn
Georgia at South Carolina
There are probably another 2-3 that could develop into something worthy of this list like Ole Miss at Texas A&M or Mizzou at Mississippi State.

Big Ten
Purdue at Minnesota
Wisconsin at Northwestern (at Wrigley Field, so there's some novelty in an otherwise traditional yawn-worthy match-up)
Penn State at Nebraska

Big 12
Baylor at Oklahoma State
Oklahoma at West Virginia

Non-Conference Match-ups
Clemson at Notre Dame

The ACC and Pac-12 do not have their conference schedules out yet. There will a few viable perennial Gameday candidates in those conferences bound to have an intriguing match-up. I deliberately left off clear duds like Texas at Kansas, Michigan at Maryland, Indiana at Ohio State, and Rutgers at the ever rigorous BYE Week, et al.

The biggest ones that jump off the page for me are Bama-LSU and Clemson-Notre Dame. I think the rest would need to have a developing story line attached in order to jump into the top tier.

As Dusty would say, Developing...
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.