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Quote from: hazzben on November 02, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
Quote from: edward de vere on November 02, 2019, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: Texas Ole on November 02, 2019, 10:07:59 PM
Does anyone else remember penetrations being used to settle tie games?

Well, that's a new one on me.  Had to look it up. 

https://oklahoman.com/article/2207225/high-school-football


I hadn't heard of that before. College OT isn't perfect, but in the end, the goal is to get in the endzone, not the redzone or first downs. I'm glad that rule isn't deciding tie breakers today.

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: sju56321 on November 02, 2019, 10:26:16 PM
No way to have mount, uww, Wheaton and umbh as the brackets-way too much travel. Now an East teams get a #1 if all win out.

You're forgetting MANY recent seasons where no legitimate East #1 was available and UMU served in that capacity.  Most east coast teams can make it to Alliance OH without a plane ride.  Brackets headed by UMU, UMHB, UWW, and Wheaton would look VERY similar to many brackets of the last 20-30 years.

hazzben

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 02, 2019, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: sju56321 on November 02, 2019, 10:26:16 PM
No way to have mount, uww, Wheaton and umbh as the brackets-way too much travel. Now an East teams get a #1 if all win out.

You're forgetting MANY recent seasons where no legitimate East #1 was available and UMU served in that capacity.  Most east coast teams can make it to Alliance OH without a plane ride.  Brackets headed by UMU, UMHB, UWW, and Wheaton would look VERY similar to many brackets of the last 20-30 years.

Exactly. This wouldn't be an unfeasible bracket at all. Mount holding down the East isn't unheard of. And Wheaton has a swath of teams within driving distance of Chicago.

sju56321

I am not arguing geography-but rather the recent desire to see an "East" have a bracket. I know there is a school of thought that is pushing the fact that the East has several undefeated teams, one of which, that should be rewarded with bracket if they win out.
I am fully aware that in the past mount was sent East and was advocating for that before today-but now you don't have one more team that made the quarterfinals last year undefeated. So between two teams, one East and one north, I can see the committee going with the East team.

art76

Quote from: hazzben on November 02, 2019, 08:00:11 PM
Having just watched Hamline in person ... not gonna happen. They managed 11 yds today. Playing Bethel's subs the entire second half. Concordia has given UWL, GAC, and UWW good games prior to today. Hamline will be totally and utterly overmatched by a pissed  SJU. Triple stompout coming

My observations from witnessing the game today first hand is that BU looks better in person than on film. The crowd reaction when the updated MIAC scores were presented over the loud speaker system was telling. The only way the Johnnies lose to Hamline next week is if half of their team comes down with the flu on Friday night. This would make the score only 21 to 7 in favor of the Jays - which is what the score was after the twos, threes and fours came in for Bethel today. You know you are deep in the depth chart when the announcer has to look things up before giving credit to good play on the field.
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wally_wabash

Quote from: sju56321 on November 02, 2019, 11:46:59 PM
I am not arguing geography-but rather the recent desire to see an "East" have a bracket. I know there is a school of thought that is pushing the fact that the East has several undefeated teams, one of which, that should be rewarded with bracket if they win out.
I am fully aware that in the past mount was sent East and was advocating for that before today-but now you don't have one more team that made the quarterfinals last year undefeated. So between two teams, one East and one north, I can see the committee going with the East team.

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In the world of hunting one usually goes to the natural habitat of the species one is looking for. If you are duck hunting you go to the swamp. If you are deer hunting you go to the woods. If you are pheasant hunting you go to the prairie. When a football team is looking for specialists like kickers, punters, long snapper one would think to search where these elusive species train and practice their craft. Seek and ye shall find.
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TheChucker

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 03, 2019, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: sju56321 on November 02, 2019, 11:46:59 PM
I am not arguing geography-but rather the recent desire to see an "East" have a bracket. I know there is a school of thought that is pushing the fact that the East has several undefeated teams, one of which, that should be rewarded with bracket if they win out.
I am fully aware that in the past mount was sent East and was advocating for that before today-but now you don't have one more team that made the quarterfinals last year undefeated. So between two teams, one East and one north, I can see the committee going with the East team.



I'm guessing you're referring to Muhlenberg? They would definitely fit an East bracket located in PA. I'm wondering why they were technically in the South region behind UMHB last year. Odd.

retagent

Weird game notes. Johnnies get three TD's compared to Cobbers 2 TD's and a FG, and lose. Erdmann more than doubles his Interception count for the season. Johnnies gain more than twice the yardage of the Cobbers and lose. Johnnies fail to score on 4 of 6 attempts in the Red Zone. Johnnies fail to convert a PAT. (Had a 2 point conversion nullified by penalty). Johnnies were actually -2 points on PAT's. Any two of those would be scratching my head. Those six all in one game is unexplainable.

sowilson

Quote from: sjusection105 on November 03, 2019, 08:15:19 AM
In the world of hunting one usually goes to the natural habitat of the species one is looking for. If you are duck hunting you go to the swamp. If you are deer hunting you go to the woods. If you are pheasant hunting you go to the prairie. When a football team is looking for specialists like kickers, punters, long snapper one would think to search where these elusive species train and practice their craft. Seek and ye shall find.
https://kohlskicking.com/camps

No need to go to Kohl's to look for talent (besides a D3 school is going to have a hard time enticing the top Kohl's specialists to come), http://specialteamsfootballacademy.com/ is local and Chris Husby has produced a number of fine specialists in the area who are with D1, D2, and D3 programs around the country.  Almost all of the top metro specialists train with him.  It takes time, commitment, and a bit of money to hone your skills as a specialist.  Almost no college program knows how to train and evaluate specialists.  We are fortunate to have Chris and his staff in our region.

DuffMan

I'm pretty sure Husby has run a camp at SJU the past few summers.  ???

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Quote from: retagent on November 03, 2019, 09:51:45 AM
Weird game notes. Johnnies get three TD's compared to Cobbers 2 TD's and a FG, and lose. Erdmann more than doubles his Interception count for the season. Johnnies gain more than twice the yardage of the Cobbers and lose. Johnnies fail to score on 4 of 6 attempts in the Red Zone. Johnnies fail to convert a PAT. (Had a 2 point conversion nullified by penalty). Johnnies were actually -2 points on PAT's. Any two of those would be scratching my head. Those six all in one game is unexplainable.

Somehow, from the opening kick return it seemed the tone for the day would be an odd one. Also, consider the Cobbers' first half touchdown drive was 90% made up of a fumbled punt. I fully expected SJU to come out guns blazing in the opening of the second half, and they did—4 plays to TD. Then that bizarre PAT foible and runback got all the weirdness going again. Still gonna give my nods to the pesky Cobber D for key stops and turnovers.

Gonna take this one as a mild retribution for all the times the Johnnies have ripped the Cobbers hearts out with "Johnnie Magic". (Thinking 2005 here, but a few other times as well).
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sowilson

Quote from: DuffMan on November 03, 2019, 10:28:47 AM
I'm pretty sure Husby has run a camp at SJU the past few summers.  ???
He, along with Brian Jackson, run a camp at SJU every summer that has attendees from all over (they rent the facility) as well as SCSU over the winter break (my son has been to that a few times) . He may have run development/evaluation camps for SJU in the past although NCAA rule changes may have put an end to that.  2-3 days of contact with a coach however is not enough to fix technique issues, that's usually done through frequent lessons during the offseason.  By developing a longer term relationship the coach/specialist can work on fixing things via Skype during the season as the technique issues are usually readily identifiable by the coach from video.  Chris Husby isn't the issue with SJU's specialist problems although he might be able to help remedy the situation.

faunch

Opening kickoff, muffed punt, 2 ineligible lineman downfield on a 2 pt conversion and 3 missed xtra point kicks. Something is wrong w/ attention to detail inC Collegeville.


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wally_wabash

Quote from: TheChucker on November 03, 2019, 09:43:49 AM
I'm guessing you're referring to Muhlenberg? They would definitely fit an East bracket located in PA. I'm wondering why they were technically in the South region behind UMHB last year. Odd.

It isn't odd, that's where Muhlenberg belongs.  I hesitate to say that the Centennial Conference has been a South Region conference for ever because I know there was some shuffling many years ago with the disposition of a conference or two in that area of the country, but they've been a South Region conference for at least many years now. 
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