FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[miac952]

What do you think an eight-figure donation means? I'm thinking more than $60 million, but less than $99 million. I'm not sure why UST would withhold the figure. Whatever the figure might be, it's very generous of the Morrison family.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.stthomas.edu/st-thomas-announces-morrison-family-college-of-health/amp/

I still find it quite amusing that UST complained about getting booted from the MIAC.  UST doesn't want to be there.  It's obvious they weren't long for the conference.  So they left on the member's schedule rather than their own.  Big deal.  They were leaving all the same.

I don't necessarily disagree, but what does this have to do with a large donation that endows the college of health?

Are you such a arrogant ass in real life (and I hear that you are), or just a special prick to this board?  Would love to hear anyone else defend you...

In this weeks edition of "when the angry troller gets trolled."

[SagatagSam]

Someone asked earlier about SJU's XP stats. Here's the game-by-game breakdown:

UW-Stout 2-2
Gustavus 3-4
Carleton 4-5
Augsburg 7-9
Bethel 1-3 (one was a bad snap that led to the holder scrambling to try and make a throw, so if you're looking at just missed kicks, it's 1-2)
UST 2-5
St. Olaf 6-8
Concordia 0-3
TOTALS  25-39 (64.1%)

At this rate, 2-point conversions are preferable if they can convert at a 1-3 rate or higher.

Thank you for this! I hope the loss to the Cobbers leads to an awakening for the team & a renewed sense of determination to carry them deep into the playoffs! The kicking game was the one glaring weakness prior to the game, but the turnovers & inability to convert in the red zone, which were uncharacteristic, proved fatal Saturday.

The coaching staff needs to figure this out or the team will be sitting at home for Thanksgiving.

My recurring nightmare is that the Johnnies are down by 3 or less with 2 seconds on the clock in the playoffs and could either choose to go for it or kick a FG on 4th and goal from the 6 (so a 23-yd FG) and, well, you can probably guess the rest....

[SagatagSam]

I believe the Johnnies would have to be able to fare at or above a 50% conversion rate on 2-PT Conversions.

[faunch]

Someone asked earlier about SJU's XP stats. Here's the game-by-game breakdown:

UW-Stout 2-2
Gustavus 3-4
Carleton 4-5
Augsburg 7-9
Bethel 1-3 (one was a bad snap that led to the holder scrambling to try and make a throw, so if you're looking at just missed kicks, it's 1-2)
UST 2-5
St. Olaf 6-8
Concordia 0-3
TOTALS  25-39 (64.1%)

At this rate, 2-point conversions are preferable if they can convert at a 1-3 rate or higher.

Thank you for this! I hope the loss to the Cobbers leads to an awakening for the team & a renewed sense of determination to carry them deep into the playoffs! The kicking game was the one glaring weakness prior to the game, but the turnovers & inability to convert in the red zone, which were uncharacteristic, proved fatal Saturday.

The coaching staff needs to figure this out or the team will be sitting at home for Thanksgiving.

My recurring nightmare is that the Johnnies are down by 3 or less with 2 seconds on the clock in the playoffs and could either choose to go for it or kick a FG on 4th and goal from the 6 (so a 23-yd FG) and, well, you can probably guess the rest....

I thought the game this past Saturday might play out that way.
What's most discouraging is that even most average high school teams have a kid that can kick a 20-25 yard fg. Makes me think that the SJU kicking issues are not solely the fault of the kicker. They've tried two or three of them. Has it been the same long snapper and holder all season? Maybe the ball isn't being placed properly?

[DuffMan]

What's most discouraging is that even most average high school teams have a kid that can kick a 20-25 yard fg.

Unless it has changed since I was in HS (what could change in 21 years?  ), high school kickers kick off of a "kicking block" and college kickers kick directly off of the turf.  It may not seem like a big difference, but it can be difficult to adjust.  I had a high school teamate that got a D2 scholarship as a placekicker (he was a very good high school kicker), but he really struggled in college.

[GoldandBlueBU]

What's most discouraging is that even most average high school teams have a kid that can kick a 20-25 yard fg.

Unless it has changed since I was in HS (what could change in 21 years?  ), high school kickers kick off of a "kicking block" and college kickers kick directly off of the turf.  It may not seem like a big difference, but it can be difficult to adjust.  I had a high school teamate that got a D2 scholarship as a placekicker (he was a very good high school kicker), but he really struggled in college.

In my last year, now 16 years back, we still used a block.  It made the job easier for the holder, too, in the days of mostly grass fields that often weren't in great condition, so it was nice to have a solid, consistent place to put the ball. (I was the holder!)  Might not be as much of an issue as artificial turf has become more common.

[MadRedFan]

I say this in almost 100% sincerity -- Erdmann can do just about everything else, can he kick the damn ball?

[Pat Coleman]

They still use the block in HS in Minnesota at least.

[SagatagSam]

Someone asked earlier about SJU's XP stats. Here's the game-by-game breakdown:

UW-Stout 2-2
Gustavus 3-4
Carleton 4-5
Augsburg 7-9
Bethel 1-3 (one was a bad snap that led to the holder scrambling to try and make a throw, so if you're looking at just missed kicks, it's 1-2)
UST 2-5
St. Olaf 6-8
Concordia 0-3
TOTALS  25-39 (64.1%)

At this rate, 2-point conversions are preferable if they can convert at a 1-3 rate or higher.

Thank you for this! I hope the loss to the Cobbers leads to an awakening for the team & a renewed sense of determination to carry them deep into the playoffs! The kicking game was the one glaring weakness prior to the game, but the turnovers & inability to convert in the red zone, which were uncharacteristic, proved fatal Saturday.

The coaching staff needs to figure this out or the team will be sitting at home for Thanksgiving.

My recurring nightmare is that the Johnnies are down by 3 or less with 2 seconds on the clock in the playoffs and could either choose to go for it or kick a FG on 4th and goal from the 6 (so a 23-yd FG) and, well, you can probably guess the rest....

I thought the game this past Saturday might play out that way.
What's most discouraging is that even most average high school teams have a kid that can kick a 20-25 yard fg. Makes me think that the SJU kicking issues are not solely the fault of the kicker. They've tried two or three of them. Has it been the same long snapper and holder all season? Maybe the ball isn't being placed properly?

They season started with Solors. As far as I know it's been the same long snapper and Chris Backes holding all season. Things got progressively worse after the Augsburg game. During that time Jack McKenzie took over kicking duties.

[SagatagSam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCCW9R1KyQ8

I mean.... I think Erdmann could drop kick.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

What do you think an eight-figure donation means? I'm thinking more than $60 million, but less than $99 million. I'm not sure why UST would withhold the figure. Whatever the figure might be, it's very generous of the Morrison family.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.stthomas.edu/st-thomas-announces-morrison-family-college-of-health/amp/

I still find it quite amusing that UST complained about getting booted from the MIAC.  UST doesn't want to be there.  It's obvious they weren't long for the conference.  So they left on the member's schedule rather than their own.  Big deal.  They were leaving all the same.

I don't necessarily disagree, but what does this have to do with a large donation that endows the college of health?

Are you such a arrogant ass in real life (and I hear that you are), or just a special prick to this board?  Would love to hear anyone else defend you...

I've met him several times and I'd hate to unmask the carefully crafted persona you all know and love so well.

You seem nice though.

I, too, have met the Rev and I'd say he's as good a guy as any poster I've met off these boards-- sorry Rev, the truth must come out -- you can be a good guy 

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

What do you think an eight-figure donation means? I'm thinking more than $60 million, but less than $99 million. I'm not sure why UST would withhold the figure. Whatever the figure might be, it's very generous of the Morrison family.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.stthomas.edu/st-thomas-announces-morrison-family-college-of-health/amp/

Wow. 1,250 anticipated students. Undergraduate and graduate nursing, psychology, sociology, and P.A. Physical and occupational therapy are probably next. UST isn't messing around about expanding into all the growing fields. St. Kates must be pissed. I'm curious on where they'll put all those extra students?

some at Kate's are still pissed UST went co-ed in 1977, insisting it was an attempt to kill off St Kate's.  If it was such an attempt, it failed miserably.

God forbid that Julie Sullivan and the leadership at UST run the place like a business and address the opportunities in the workplace and needs of society as a whole....its not as though the data and evidence that they are using to determine what disciplines they need to grow in, is not available to EVERY other school.  It's called LEADERSHIP and VISION....and it resonates with prospective students and their parents during the college search process.  All the schools pissing and moaning about what UST does are acting like MySpace in the early 2000s....and unfortunately some will end up with similar outcomes.

Brilliant statement, Redtooth. you summarize the situation beautifully. It's a shame certain college.university administrators (glaring at Northfield, Winona, down Randolph Ave and Snelilng Ave south of the Fairgrounds) can't see and understand this basic fact. Either you grow as an institution and evolve with the times or your stagnate and rot  (see Daniel Webster College for a good example).

[faunch]

I say this in almost 100% sincerity -- Erdmann can do just about everything else, can he kick the damn ball?

W/the number of guys they have rostered does anyone think they've done a tryout among the other players? There has got to be one guy that can kick a damn PAT!@!@!
It feels like the bad kicks have become embedded into the psyche of the team!

[faunch]

Anyone out there ever used Big Ten+?
My daughter attends University of Iowa...last year in the dorms she got free access to it because she was on the campus Wifi. This year she's in a apartment and wants to watch her high school classmate Daniel Oturu and the Gophers. I'm wondering if we can both be logged on at the same time?
Any thoughts?

[DuffMan]

W/the number of guys they have rostered does anyone think they've done a tryout among the other players?

I remember doing this in 2000 looking for a punter.  Phil Barry, an awesome punter, graduated and left a big void.  We basically had open tryouts.  Charlie Carr won.