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MUC57

Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 18, 2019, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on November 18, 2019, 09:49:27 AM

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DuffMan


A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

TheChucker

For kicks and grins only, if the hypothetical betting line for St. Johns over Aurora was -42 (6 touchdowns), who would take Aurora beating the spread?

sjusection105

Quote from: TheChucker on November 18, 2019, 03:08:24 PM
For kicks and grins only, if the hypothetical betting line for St. Johns over Aurora was -42 (6 touchdowns), who would take Aurora beating the spread?
Don Bebee
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

DuffMan

Quote from: TheChucker on November 18, 2019, 03:08:24 PM
For kicks and grins only, if the hypothetical betting line for St. Johns over Aurora was -42 (6 touchdowns), who would take Aurora beating the spread?

I would.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

sjujohnnie

A poster on the WIAC board had alluded to being familiar with Aurora so I asked if they could expound. Great insight! Sounds like they have a high-powered offense which will be a test for our secondary. It was also mentioned that their coach, Don Beebe, has already done a great job moving the team in the right direction. I believe they said this is is first season at Aurora. That being said, I would feel much better about our chances to make a deep run if we did win by 6 touchdowns! Should be a great opening round test! Thankful that the committee didn't send Martin Luther back to Collegeville & that there is a path to the semi's for two teams that have not been their in the last number of years. Both UMHB & Mount Union could make it. I ran Versus' Sports Simulator against each matchup all the way through the Stagg Bowl & based on the predictions, it liked Wheaton edging North Central for the title 35-33. It predicted that St John's would fall to Wheaton in the Quarterfinals 36-13. I hope it's wrong obviously!

OzJohnnie

Quote from: TheChucker on November 18, 2019, 03:08:24 PM
For kicks and grins only, if the hypothetical betting line for St. Johns over Aurora was -42 (6 touchdowns), who would take Aurora beating the spread?

I would as well.  I don't think the final score will look anything like that.
  

repete

Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 18, 2019, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: TheChucker on November 18, 2019, 03:08:24 PM
For kicks and grins only, if the hypothetical betting line for St. Johns over Aurora was -42 (6 touchdowns), who would take Aurora beating the spread?

I would as well.  I don't think the final score will look anything like that.

Yup. Me too. Despite the quip about the tiny corner, the speed vs. speed part of this matchup could make things interesting. Glad our linebackers are solid vets. While I think SJU has a talent edge, it looks like Aurora could make things interesting.

TheChucker

The Johnnies on this board are being modest (steeped in the Gagliardi tradition). I'm not a Johnnie, so I can afford to say that I think it will be a blow out.

For what it's worth, the Massey Ratings Match Up Tool has St. John's winning 45-19 as the most likely score.

sjujohnnie

The Versus Sports Simulator that I used to run matchups to see how it felt the bracket would play out had Mount Union falling to North Central 39-35 in the second round & Whitewater falling to Mary Hardin-Baylor 29-18 in the quarterfinals. I don't doubt that UMHB will get past Whitewater, but have a hard time believing Mount will bow out in the second round. Anyone have any idea the last time that Mount Union didn't advance past the second round?

Another topic of discussion, do you think with the phenomenal job that Gary & the rest of the coaching staff have done that St John's will become a perennial contender like UMHB, Mount, & Whitewater have been? 

OzJohnnie

Quote from: TheChucker on November 18, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
The Johnnies on this board are being modest (steeped in the Gagliardi tradition). I'm not a Johnnie, so I can afford to say that I think it will be a blow out.

For what it's worth, the Massey Ratings Match Up Tool has St. John's winning 45-19 as the most likely score.

I think the Johnies can put up 31 to 42 points (yes, I'm leaving open the possibility of a FG!) and I think Aurora can probably score three TDs.  So I'm favouring the Johnnies but I'm not thinking monkeystomp and certainly not a double.

I'm still too wounded by the Coe game in 2009 where the Jays laid a giant egg.
  

OzJohnnie

Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 18, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
Another topic of discussion, do you think with the phenomenal job that Gary & the rest of the coaching staff have done that St John's will become a perennial contender like UMHB, Mount, & Whitewater have been? 

One game at a time.  One play at a time.  If you don't maintain that attitude then you lose to Concordia.

I reckon Gary and staff will stay there and abouts and we'll consistently have Johnnie teams who go big.  I doubt SJU will ever be like UMU or UMHB, or even UWW.  Different school and different approach to football.
  

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 18, 2019, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 18, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
Another topic of discussion, do you think with the phenomenal job that Gary & the rest of the coaching staff have done that St John's will become a perennial contender like UMHB, Mount, & Whitewater have been? 

One game at a time.  One play at a time.  If you don't maintain that attitude then you lose to Concordia.

I reckon Gary and staff will stay there and abouts and we'll consistently have Johnnie teams who go big.  I doubt SJU will ever be like UMU or UMHB, or even UWW.  Different school and different approach to football.

Yes, I would say that it feels more like having a generational talent (Erdmann) surrounded by a talented team, which combines to create a contender...not unlike UST and (the Dread Pirate) Roberts.

Both are clearly perennial top 15, maybe even 10 teams, but need something extra to get to the top 4 conversation.

It will be interesting to see how UST's departure ends up dispersing talent...SJU seems like a logical beneficiary.

DuffMan

Quote from: sjujohnnie on November 18, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
Another topic of discussion, do you think with the phenomenal job that Gary & the rest of the coaching staff have done that St John's will become a perennial contender like UMHB, Mount, & Whitewater have been?
Phenomenal job, yes, but they're a tier below UMU, recent UMHB, and UWW (at least Leipold UWW).

Still, I'm more than happy with SJU.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

DuffMan

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 18, 2019, 04:24:07 PM
Yes, I would say that it feels more like having a generational talent (Erdmann) surrounded by a talented team, which combines to create a contender...not unlike UST and (the Dread Pirate) Roberts.

Both are clearly perennial top 15, maybe even 10 teams, but need something extra to get to the top 4 conversation.

Gotta wait till the post-Erdmann era to make that judgement!  :o

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03