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[SJU13]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

I think a lot of this has to do with personal interview style and the emotion of the game. Based on the comments, I got the sense they felt their own errors beat them rather than SJU which I can understand. I think all SJU fans can resonate with that mindset the quote about out-gaining a team by 50 yards (more in our case) and lose. 

For the SJU presser it was nice that Danny P handled personal security for Jackson  .

[AO]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

Teams can do anything they want in their own videos and writeups. That's for their audiences. The NCAA mandatory news conference is a different animal. It's just good form to at least tip your cap.

I just think it makes for a really boring video if it doesn't tell the true story and drama of the game.  A highlight video also has the potential to get thousands of more views than a recap article or a press conference.

[Pat Coleman]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

Teams can do anything they want in their own videos and writeups. That's for their audiences. The NCAA mandatory news conference is a different animal. It's just good form to at least tip your cap.

But to be clear, while attendance is necessary, tipping your cap is in no way required except by perhaps the fans of the winning team.

I'm sure you guys have other stuff to talk about than what Mike Swider said in the postgame. Swider has never been a by-the-book coach and it seems to work just fine for him and for Wheaton.

[repete]

Don't recall Gary dwelling on that when the Jays outgained UMHB by 150 ...

[oldsju67]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

Teams can do anything they want in their own videos and writeups. That's for their audiences. The NCAA mandatory news conference is a different animal. It's just good form to at least tip your cap.

But to be clear, while attendance is necessary, tipping your cap is in no way required except by perhaps the fans of the winning team.

I'm sure you guys have other stuff to talk about than what Mike Swider said in the postgame. Swider has never been a by-the-book coach and it seems to work just fine for him and for Wheaton.

Yup, you're right Pat.  But at least now the rest of the D3 world knows how classless he is.  Just my opinion.  Makes it easy to root against Wheaton from here on out...

[sjujohnnie]

Would anyone like to comment on how the Johnnies match up with Whitewater?

[Baldini]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

Teams can do anything they want in their own videos and writeups. That's for their audiences. The NCAA mandatory news conference is a different animal. It's just good form to at least tip your cap.

But to be clear, while attendance is necessary, tipping your cap is in no way required except by perhaps the fans of the winning team.

I'm sure you guys have other stuff to talk about than what Mike Swider said in the postgame. Swider has never been a by-the-book coach and it seems to work just fine for him and for Wheaton.

Not yet Pat, gotta beat this 'always disrespected' dead horse for awhile longer. It is the Johnnies favorite pastime, ranks just ahead of ice fishing.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yeah, I rarely see so much bitching about the losing coach's postgame press conference outside of any time IWU loses to a CCIW team - nearly every poster not affiliated with IWU despises Norm Eash.

[oldsju67]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

Teams can do anything they want in their own videos and writeups. That's for their audiences. The NCAA mandatory news conference is a different animal. It's just good form to at least tip your cap.

But to be clear, while attendance is necessary, tipping your cap is in no way required except by perhaps the fans of the winning team.

I'm sure you guys have other stuff to talk about than what Mike Swider said in the postgame. Swider has never been a by-the-book coach and it seems to work just fine for him and for Wheaton.

Not yet Pat, gotta beat this 'always disrespected' dead horse for awhile longer. It is the Johnnies favorite pastime, ranks just ahead of ice fishing.

We don't care about us, because we beat them.  But to disrespect a team like Central who has a longer playoff resume and has won a national championship to Wheaton none is BS and classless.  Can only imagine what he says about his conference opponents.

[USee]

Yeah, I rarely see so much bitching about the losing coach's postgame press conference outside of any time IWU loses to a CCIW team - nearly every poster not affiliated with IWU despises Norm Eash.

I actually know a few who are affiliated with IWU that don't appreciate him. Just saying. Happy to have some more bandwagon haters though. Ypsi, if they think Swider has no class, what would these guys think of Norm? Yikes.

[stanbob]

Wheaton coach in postgame presser said they were going to kick the whole time, no thought going for 2. Reasons: SJU's scores were big plays so liked their chances inside 25; offensively they were able to sustain drives so liked their chances with the ball; liked their kicking game better.

Interesting post-game statement from Swider. Did I miss usual congrats to the winners ... or any credit to SJU other than "they scored more points"? At least the players had the class to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

I can appreciate a coach standing up for his team, but compare Swider's remarks to Gary's after similar heartbreak at UMHB last season.

I noticed when Central played them that their write-ups never mentioned the other team either. Wartburg does the same thing. Except for mentioning it they won or lost you wouldn't even know your team played them. I know you want to promote your team and players, but are you really so intimidated by the other team that you can't even acknowledge them? Cowardly if you ask me.

The vast majority of teams write their stories like that.  Most teams including the Johnnies also fail to include any of the other teams highlights in their videos, making it seem like they won every game 50-0.

Teams can do anything they want in their own videos and writeups. That's for their audiences. The NCAA mandatory news conference is a different animal. It's just good form to at least tip your cap.

But to be clear, while attendance is necessary, tipping your cap is in no way required except by perhaps the fans of the winning team.

I'm sure you guys have other stuff to talk about than what Mike Swider said in the postgame. Swider has never been a by-the-book coach and it seems to work just fine for him and for Wheaton.

Not yet Pat, gotta beat this 'always disrespected' dead horse for awhile longer. It is the Johnnies favorite pastime, ranks just ahead of ice fishing.

"favorite pastime, ranks just ahead of ice fishing."  Now that shows just how little you follow the MIAC board, beer drinking is by far the front runner...

[stanbob]

Yeah, I rarely see so much bitching about the losing coach's postgame press conference outside of any time IWU loses to a CCIW team - nearly every poster not affiliated with IWU despises Norm Eash.

I actually know a few who are affiliated with IWU that don't appreciate him. Just saying. Happy to have some more bandwagon haters though. Ypsi, if they think Swider has no class, what would these guys think of Norm? Yikes.

He may have class, but just refuses to show it...

[repete]

Never said acknowledging opponent was mandatory or required BTW.

But a simple acknowledgment seems customary and its absence is fair game for commentary.

[sfury]

"We haven't played close to our best in any of those semifinal games, never played our normal game. Maybe some of it has to do with the opposition. But we fumbled a snap and kept throwing the ball too long. What does that have to do with the opposition?"

--John Gagliardi, after losing to Albion in 1994.

And after Dayton fumble debacle in 1991, Reusse called John "Mumbles" in honor of the Dick Tracy character for how he spoke after losses. And I bet in his 138 losses, there were dozens where he didn't have much good to say about the other team (he mentioned wanting to commit suicide after each one, after all). Yeah, he'd acknowledge a Mount Union ass-kicking, etc., but John in defeat was never exactly throwing out compliments to other teams. A coach whose team lost a game like Wheaton did today, ending an undefeated season, ending the season that was the best in school history...and moments later you have to sum it all up, I can't get too upset for him saying whatever...or not saying something in exactly the way people think he should. I'm sure he knows SJU is a great team. The fact he didn't read off a script and recite the proper words doesn't mean much in the big picture, I don't believe.

As for Whitewater, I don't think location matters much either way for either team (especially if weather is similar), but I would prefer it in SJU if for no other reason that us SJU posters have PTSD from those 05, 06 and 08 games down there. I don't want to see another distraught Johnnie team walking off that damn field, and us having to listen to Gary compliment Whitewater on their greatness. 

[hazzben]

Agree sfury. It's heartbreaking stuff and super raw at that moment. They lost by one point on a weird ending. With the best team they've ever had, for a shot at the semi's/stagg. I'm not going to hold that against Wheaton/Swider.