FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BDB]

A good friend of mine, #47 in this video, sent me this 1993 ESPN segment profiling John Gagliardi:

https://youtu.be/7k9p_Ku9CFw

It's a fun couple of minutes. 

[OzJohnnie]

Sigh.  Oh well.  Opportunity missed.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/army-wallops-middle-tennessee-in-front-of-4300-cadets/

Are you referring to the final paragraph of the story, Oz?

Yeah, and just the game itself being played.

[OldAuggie]

Athletically yes they want more than D2 or D3. So, go for it Tommies! Just don't use academics as an excuse because in the Summit League you are going backwards. 

So... how long until a Summit #Texit?  10 years?

Ha! Yes, I see the Missouri Valley Conference in the Tommies future for basketball.
https://mvc-sports.com/index.aspx?path=mbball

Hockey WCHA
http://www.wcha.com/men/teams.php

[SagatagSam]

Sigh.  Oh well.  Opportunity missed.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/army-wallops-middle-tennessee-in-front-of-4300-cadets/

Are you referring to the final paragraph of the story, Oz?

Yeah, and just the game itself being played.

I was thinking it would have been fun to flip the bird to the powers that be in New York and have a full stadium. The story indicated that a full stadium may have been possible as USMA, by virtue of its federal status, is exempt from New York's onerous COVID restrictions.

[Texas Ole]

Sigh.  Oh well.  Opportunity missed.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/army-wallops-middle-tennessee-in-front-of-4300-cadets/

Are you referring to the final paragraph of the story, Oz?

Yeah, and just the game itself being played.

I was thinking it would have been fun to flip the bird to the powers that be in New York and have a full stadium. The story indicated that a full stadium may have been possible as USMA, by virtue of its federal status, is exempt from New York's onerous COVID restrictions.

I went to a 6-man football game last week.  The total K-12 enrollment for the school district is smaller than the roster of some D3 schools.  The population of the town is less than 250.  It felt like life was back to normal.  It was an awesome experience.  I feel like many officials are so focused on the large urban areas that rural USA gets forgotten.

[SagatagSam]

Sigh.  Oh well.  Opportunity missed.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/army-wallops-middle-tennessee-in-front-of-4300-cadets/

Are you referring to the final paragraph of the story, Oz?

Yeah, and just the game itself being played.

I was thinking it would have been fun to flip the bird to the powers that be in New York and have a full stadium. The story indicated that a full stadium may have been possible as USMA, by virtue of its federal status, is exempt from New York's onerous COVID restrictions.

I went to a 6-man football game last week.  The total K-12 enrollment for the school district was smaller than the roster of some D3 schools.  The population of the town was less than 250.  It felt like life was back to normal.  It was an awesome experience.  I feel like many officials are so focused on the large urban areas that rural USA gets forgotten.

I went to a high school football game here in South Dakota a couple weeks ago in the metropolis of Salem (pop. 1,347). It was the first time things felt normal since late-February. No one was talking about COVID. We all just enjoyed the game. There was plenty of space to spread out, so even those at higher risk could attend safely if they wanted.

COVID as an issue is all but completely dead here in South Dakota. The national media is making some hay about a spike in cases and trying to suggest the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally was a "SUPERSPREADER" event, but is all but silent regarding there being no corresponding spike in deaths (eight of the last eleven days there weren't any here in SD).

[SagatagSam]

Hats off to the football players in the State of Connecticut. They overwhelmed the Capitol in Hartford to demand they be allowed to play.

https://twitter.com/davebriggstv/status/1303849126757576707?s=20

The local NBC affiliate tried to downplay it as a crowd of "hundreds" of players. I don't know about you, but based on the video there were more than mere "hundreds" that came out.

[jknezek]

Sigh.  Oh well.  Opportunity missed.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/army-wallops-middle-tennessee-in-front-of-4300-cadets/

Are you referring to the final paragraph of the story, Oz?

Yeah, and just the game itself being played.

I was thinking it would have been fun to flip the bird to the powers that be in New York and have a full stadium. The story indicated that a full stadium may have been possible as USMA, by virtue of its federal status, is exempt from New York's onerous COVID restrictions.

I went to a 6-man football game last week.  The total K-12 enrollment for the school district was smaller than the roster of some D3 schools.  The population of the town was less than 250.  It felt like life was back to normal.  It was an awesome experience.  I feel like many officials are so focused on the large urban areas that rural USA gets forgotten.

I went to a high school football game here in South Dakota a couple weeks ago in the metropolis of Salem (pop. 1,347). It was the first time things felt normal since late-February. No one was talking about COVID. We all just enjoyed the game. There was plenty of space to spread out, so even those at higher risk could attend safely if they wanted.

COVID as an issue is all but completely dead here in South Dakota. The national media is making some hay about a spike in cases and trying to suggest the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally was a "SUPERSPREADER" event, but is all but silent regarding there being no corresponding spike in deaths (eight of the last eleven days there weren't any here in SD).

There was an undeniable spike in cases 2 weeks after the Sturgis rally in South Dakota. See the link below. It's pretty apparent what happened. But yeah, it wasn't sustained and the daily new case numbers are falling off in South Dakota back toward where they were pre-Sturgis. It's pretty obvious if you don't have big get togethers, and people are responsible about masks and distance, we can beat this back to low levels.

But big events like Sturgis are big spreaders. As would be packed football stadiums, tailgates, bars, college parties... anywhere people are going to gather close, share food, mingle tight, forget distance and scorn masks. So yeah, one big event like Sturgis causes a spike but it quickly dies down because it's not repeated every weekend. Packed football stadiums every weekend would just perpetuate the problem. Get infected one Saturday, let it incubate all week, spread it the next weekend, then start seeing symptoms. Meanwhile all those sitting around you the previous weekend let it stew for a week, go to a game or bar, spread it more, and then start seeing symptoms the following week. And all of a sudden we are back to square 1.

But yeah, we seem to be much better at treating the problem, there are fewer and fewer severe cases. It's a very good sign overall so long as we don't just go back to being dumb.

https://www.google.com/search?q=south+dakota+covid+cases&rlz=1C1CHWL_enUS658US658&oq=south+dakota+covid+cases&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.5669j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[SagatagSam]

There was an undeniable spike in cases 2 weeks after the Sturgis rally in South Dakota. See the link below. It's pretty apparent what happened. But yeah, it wasn't sustained and the daily new case numbers are falling off in South Dakota back toward where they were pre-Sturgis. It's pretty obvious if you don't have big get togethers, and people are responsible about masks and distance, we can beat this back to low levels.

But big events like Sturgis are big spreaders. As would be packed football stadiums, tailgates, bars, college parties... anywhere people are going to gather close, share food, mingle tight, forget distance and scorn masks. So yeah, one big event like Sturgis causes a spike but it quickly dies down because it's not repeated every weekend. Packed football stadiums every weekend would just perpetuate the problem. Get infected one Saturday, let it incubate all week, spread it the next weekend, then start seeing symptoms. Meanwhile all those sitting around you the previous weekend let it stew for a week, go to a game or bar, spread it more, and then start seeing symptoms the following week. And all of a sudden we are back to square 1.

But yeah, we seem to be much better at treating the problem, there are fewer and fewer severe cases. It's a very good sign overall so long as we don't just go back to being dumb.

https://www.google.com/search?q=south+dakota+covid+cases&rlz=1C1CHWL_enUS658US658&oq=south+dakota+covid+cases&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.5669j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I've said this before and I'll say it again: why should we be making a fuss over raw levels of cases? Cases rise, there is a modest increase in hospitalizations (though well within capacity here in SD), and deaths stay flat.

We aren't talking about bringing in refrigerated trucks to store all the dead bodies or digging mass graves.

The notion that we are somehow going to "beat this back to low levels" just as long as "we don't go back to being dumb" (whatever "being dumb" means--I suspect it means living normal lives and not collectively cowering in fear in our basements watching CNN) is just silly. It's a virus. It will run its course. Sweden has shown it will run its course, the sunbelt has shown it will run its course, and now even the jurisdictions that locked down the most aggressively are learning that the virus will run its course.

So, ding me with -K all you want. I'm going to live my life.

[criswyly]

My words exactly Sagatagsam.  Nice to see not everybody is drinking the koolaid.  PS...there absolutely is no science behind the use of masks.  Ding me if you want.

[SagatagSam]

My words exactly Sagatagsam.  Nice to see not everybody is drinking the koolaid.  PS...there absolutely is no science behind the use of masks.  Ding me if you want.

I'm old enough to remember the heady days of "15 days to flatten the curve." The entire point of that approach to the virus was to prevent an overwhelming of the health care system by slowing the spread of the virus over a greater length of time. That approach implicitly acknowledged a number of things, namely that the virus was going to spread whether we wanted it to or not and that any thoughts of outright eradication were unrealistic.

What we are doing now is utter insanity.

[OzJohnnie]

This is what we live under in Nazi Melbourne, Australia.  All these rules have been declared via fiat by the state's Chief Health Officer under some loosely worded public health regulations.  No parliamentary review.  No judicial appeal.  It's a nightmare, to be honest.  Utterly depressing and I invite anyone who wants to live locked in a prison to make their way here.

The tightest (more than italy) and longest (120 days and counting) restrictions that exist anywhere in the world:

- Cannot leave your house for more than 1 hour a day or subject to arrest.
- Only one person at a time can leave the house. For four approved purposed only (Grocery shopping, medical care, exercise, essential work).
- Curfew from 8pm to 5am.  Subject to arrest if of the home outside those hours.
- Facemasks at all times, 24x7, outside the home or subject to arrest.  Even while walking the dog alone and in sight of no other person.
- Cannot move more than 5km from your home.
- Must carry a gov't permit at all times authorising you to be more that 5km if you've been deemed an essential worker.
- Unlawful seizure has been suspended.  Police can enter your homes and seize and property without a warrant.
- Parliament has been suspended for long periods and only just started sitting again - to extend these powers for six more months.  A Green party member literally returned from maternity leave for just a couple hours to be the decide vote on extending the police power for six more months (a full year of this hellishness now until parliament reconsiders the issue)
- Police and the defense personal now patrol every street.  Armed defense personnel roaming the streets and arresting people not in masks while outside and alone.  No ****.  I am not ****ting you.

- Video abounds of houses being entered and people (pregnant, unemployed mothers in front of their families even) of homes being entered by force and arrests for incitement (15 years imprisonment) for FaceBook posts encouraging rallies against the lockdowns.  Political dissent has been penalised with incarceration.  No law was passed to enable this.  It was enabled by decree.

This dystopian hell hole has been created for fewer than 20k cases and 600 deaths since February.  In a state with just under seven million people.  The panic and "logic" of virus fear has rooted deep into the psyche of the political class and fools who think like them.

What will become of Australia?  it's hard to say but it's very ugly.  And very desperate.  We are not allowed to leave the country and not allowed to enter.  Fewer than 2500 a day now since March.

So all those with hero fantasies of saving people who don't even know what's good for them and forcing the whole population to hide in fear can get bent.  It's a disgrace.  Liberty has died here.  Literally.  And if or how it resolves itself is still a mystery.  Melbourne, the world's most liveable city for 10 consecutive years, lies empty.  Citizens are subject to arrest if they show there without gov't papers. The city's economy in complete ruins.  The social fabric of the place has been torn out from the root.

So I invite anyone who favours fear over sense to migrate here and see the logical conclusion of that horrid mistake in action.  And pray you're allowed to leave when you're sick of it.

[MUC57]

OzJohnnie

WOW! I've seen science-fiction movies like that. But, that can't happen in real life. Only in the movies.
Thank goodness that couldn't occur anywhere on earth. Imagine!
Great story, Oz. Whar a vivid imagination. We know that can't be real. Too extreme! Must be fake.

OR IS IT? 🇦🇺 🔫 ⚰

[SagatagSam]

This is what we live under in Nazi Melbourne, Australia.  All these rules have been declared via fiat by the state's Chief Health Officer under some loosely worded public health regulations.  No parliamentary review.  No judicial appeal.  It's a nightmare, to be honest.  Utterly depressing and I invite anyone who wants to live locked in a prison to make their way here.

The tightest (more than italy) and longest (120 days and counting) restrictions that exist anywhere in the world:

- Cannot leave your house for more than 1 hour a day or subject to arrest.
- Only one person at a time can leave the house. For four approved purposed only (Grocery shopping, medical care, exercise, essential work).
- Curfew from 8pm to 5am.  Subject to arrest if of the home outside those hours.
- Facemasks at all times, 24x7, outside the home or subject to arrest.  Even while walking the dog alone and in sight of no other person.
- Cannot move more than 5km from your home.
- Must carry a gov't permit at all times authorising you to be more that 5km if you've been deemed an essential worker.
- Unlawful seizure has been suspended.  Police can enter your homes and seize and property without a warrant.
- Parliament has been suspended for long periods and only just started sitting again - to extend these powers for six more months.  A Green party member literally returned from maternity leave for just a couple hours to be the decide vote on extending the police power for six more months (a full year of this hellishness now until parliament reconsiders the issue)
- Police and the defense personal now patrol every street.  Armed defense personnel roaming the streets and arresting people not in masks while outside and alone.  No ****.  I am not ****ting you.

- Video abounds of houses being entered and people (pregnant, unemployed mothers in front of their families even) of homes being entered by force and arrests for incitement (15 years imprisonment) for FaceBook posts encouraging rallies against the lockdowns.  Political dissent has been penalised with incarceration.  No law was passed to enable this.  It was enabled by decree.

This dystopian hell hole has been created for fewer than 20k cases and 600 deaths since February.  In a state with just under seven million people.  The panic and "logic" of virus fear has rooted deep into the psyche of the political class and fools who think like them.

What will become of Australia?  it's hard to say but it's very ugly.  And very desperate.  We are not allowed to leave the country and not allowed to enter.  Fewer than 2500 a day now since March.

So all those with hero fantasies of saving people who don't even know what's good for them and forcing the whole population to hide in fear can get bent.  It's a disgrace.  Liberty has died here.  Literally.  And if or how it resolves itself is still a mystery.  Melbourne, the world's most liveable city for 10 consecutive years, lies empty.  Citizens are subject to arrest if they show there without gov't papers. The city's economy in complete ruins.  The social fabric of the place has been torn out from the root.

So I invite anyone who favours fear over sense to migrate here and see the logical conclusion of that horrid mistake in action.  And pray you're allowed to leave when you're sick of it.

And when the lockdown is eased or lifted--if ever--virus gonna virus. People will get it, and it will spread.

It's not enough to merely sustain biological life. We could stick people in windowless rooms and feed them rice and beans for ten years to attempt to avoid the virus, but what kind of life is that? We cannot strip the most basic elements of what it means to be human in order to avoid a virus.

I heard any interesting hypothetical posed as a thought experiment to test the logic of those who say "If it saves only one life":

What if we could save a million lives worldwide each year if we just got rid of music (you can insert anything else in here as the object of the hypothetical--football, state fairs, Hamm's beer)? No music ever again. Would you do it? Would you impose that burden on other people? I mean, after all it is a million lives! And, all we are asking for is for something as trivial as music to be plucked from existence. Oh, and as part of this thought experiment, you will know that music once existed, have memories of what it was like, and, if you are like 99.958493285% of humans, you will have enjoyed music in some form previously. Would you still do it?

You could tell me that getting rid of music would save twice that amount of lives and I would still refuse to give music (or any of life's other joys) up.

[57Johnnie]

This is what we live under in Nazi Melbourne, Australia.  All these rules have been declared via fiat by the state's Chief Health Officer under some loosely worded public health regulations.  No parliamentary review.  No judicial appeal.  It's a nightmare, to be honest.  Utterly depressing and I invite anyone who wants to live locked in a prison to make their way here.

The tightest (more than italy) and longest (120 days and counting) restrictions that exist anywhere in the world:

- Cannot leave your house for more than 1 hour a day or subject to arrest.
- Only one person at a time can leave the house. For four approved purposed only (Grocery shopping, medical care, exercise, essential work).
- Curfew from 8pm to 5am.  Subject to arrest if of the home outside those hours.
- Facemasks at all times, 24x7, outside the home or subject to arrest.  Even while walking the dog alone and in sight of no other person.
- Cannot move more than 5km from your home.
- Must carry a gov't permit at all times authorising you to be more that 5km if you've been deemed an essential worker.
- Unlawful seizure has been suspended.  Police can enter your homes and seize and property without a warrant.
- Parliament has been suspended for long periods and only just started sitting again - to extend these powers for six more months.  A Green party member literally returned from maternity leave for just a couple hours to be the decide vote on extending the police power for six more months (a full year of this hellishness now until parliament reconsiders the issue)
- Police and the defense personal now patrol every street.  Armed defense personnel roaming the streets and arresting people not in masks while outside and alone.  No ****.  I am not ****ting you.

- Video abounds of houses being entered and people (pregnant, unemployed mothers in front of their families even) of homes being entered by force and arrests for incitement (15 years imprisonment) for FaceBook posts encouraging rallies against the lockdowns.  Political dissent has been penalised with incarceration.  No law was passed to enable this.  It was enabled by decree.

This dystopian hell hole has been created for fewer than 20k cases and 600 deaths since February.  In a state with just under seven million people.  The panic and "logic" of virus fear has rooted deep into the psyche of the political class and fools who think like them.

What will become of Australia?  it's hard to say but it's very ugly.  And very desperate.  We are not allowed to leave the country and not allowed to enter.  Fewer than 2500 a day now since March.

So all those with hero fantasies of saving people who don't even know what's good for them and forcing the whole population to hide in fear can get bent.  It's a disgrace.  Liberty has died here.  Literally.  And if or how it resolves itself is still a mystery.  Melbourne, the world's most liveable city for 10 consecutive years, lies empty.  Citizens are subject to arrest if they show there without gov't papers. The city's economy in complete ruins.  The social fabric of the place has been torn out from the root.

So I invite anyone who favours fear over sense to migrate here and see the logical conclusion of that horrid mistake in action.  And pray you're allowed to leave when you're sick of it.

Kafkaesque!