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DuffMan

Why are you so sure it's only SJU that is discontinuing the rivalry?

Despite it being a storied rivalry, I can't imagine playing a D3 team as a big draw for D1 recruits, and a loss to a D3 team can't look good to recruits and donors, as well.

Aside from some ticket sales, I don't see any other benefits to U$T from continuing to play SJU.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

sjusection105

Quote from: DuffMan on April 02, 2021, 04:02:17 PM
Why are you so sure it's only SJU that is discontinuing the rivalry?

Despite it being a storied rivalry, I can't imagine playing a D3 team as a big draw for D1 recruits, and a loss to a D3 team can't look good to recruits and donors, as well.

Aside from some ticket sales, I don't see any other benefits to U$T from continuing to play SJU.
It's a no win situation for UST. If they beat SJU, they're supposed to beat a D3 team. If they lose, OUCH, losing to a D3 team  :o
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

AO

Quote from: DuffMan on April 02, 2021, 04:02:17 PM
Why are you so sure it's only SJU that is discontinuing the rivalry?

Despite it being a storied rivalry, I can't imagine playing a D3 team as a big draw for D1 recruits, and a loss to a D3 team can't look good to recruits and donors, as well.

Aside from some ticket sales, I don't see any other benefits to U$T from continuing to play SJU.
I'm not certain of anything, both sides could have tentatively agreed to something in 2022 and are keeping it under wraps for a surprise when it's revealed.

I didn't see many "D1" recruits in their 2021 class.  Guys with full scholarship offers tend to choose those offers rather than the offers that come with a bill for $100K.

You don't just get the ticket sales with the Johnnie/Tommie game, the game itself is good for recruiting.  Everybody wants to play in a big rivalry.  If neither side had anything to lose, that wouldn't be much fun.

DuffMan

Despite their 2021 recruiting class, the Toms are going to need to start bringing in better-than-MIAC talent if their dreams have a chance at panning out.

The game itself may be good for recruiting at a D3 level, but if you're a D1 recruit, does a rivalry game with a D3 team really sweeten the deal?  That's like a Gustavus recruiter telling recruits that "we have a great rivalry with St. Peter HS".

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

OzJohnnie

Quote from: DuffMan on April 02, 2021, 07:16:31 PM
Despite their 2021 recruiting class, the Toms are going to need to start bringing in better-than-MIAC talent if their dreams have a chance at panning out.

The game itself may be good for recruiting at a D3 level, but if you're a D1 recruit, does a rivalry game with a D3 team really sweeten the deal?  That's like a Gustavus recruiter telling recruits that "we have a great rivalry with St. Peter HS".

It's only a meaningful rivalry if both sides have a chance to win.  SPSH is too strong.  That comparison is iike Hamline claiming a rivalry with SJU.
  

OzJohnnie

Happy Easter all.  We celebrated Mass in church this year which was nice (last year on TV).  I hope you all have a good Easter weekend.
  

MUC57


HAPPY EASTER

to all my friends on this board. What a great day this is. ✝

I'm old! I get mixed up and I forget things! Go Everybody! 🏈 ☠

BDB

Pretty entertaining Boys Hockey AA Championship game last night. Single A not so much. The high school league is going to have to figure out what to do with Gentry Academy or they will rout their way to the championship in that class annually.

Given all the changes this year, one classic remains: the 2021 Minnesota All Hockey Hair Team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEWpRjhtHko


BDB

One more hockey post. If you have 19 minutes this is hilarious. Especially if you ever spent time as a youth hockey parent like I did for over a decade.

The four words that get any youth hockey parent more excited than anything: OUT OF TOWN TOURNAMENT

Hockey Parent Hall of Fame : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4iNJJWg7A

(Oz, this adventure happened in Grand Rapids)

DuffMan

To balance out the hockey posts, MN's Gable Steveson dominated his way to the US Olympic freestyle wrestling team yesterday, beating the #1 seed 10-0 and 10-4 (best of 3 series).  He's really wrestling well.  I think he's a legit gold medal threat in Tokyo.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

57Johnnie

The older the violin - the sweeter the music!

OzJohnnie

Quote from: BDB on April 04, 2021, 09:25:47 AM
Pretty entertaining Boys Hockey AA Championship game last night. Single A not so much. The high school league is going to have to figure out what to do with Gentry Academy or they will rout their way to the championship in that class annually.

Given all the changes this year, one classic remains: the 2021 Minnesota All Hockey Hair Team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEWpRjhtHko

Ha!  #1 is a crime against humanity.  That haircut got its own trial at The Hague.
  

OzJohnnie

Quote from: BDB on April 04, 2021, 10:00:14 AM
One more hockey post. If you have 19 minutes this is hilarious. Especially if you ever spent time as a youth hockey parent like I did for over a decade.

The four words that get any youth hockey parent more excited than anything: OUT OF TOWN TOURNAMENT

Hockey Parent Hall of Fame : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4iNJJWg7A

(Oz, this adventure happened in Grand Rapids)

Man, they were lucky they didn't end up in the big house with the sheriff responding.  The Timberlake Lodge is only about five minutes from the county lockup.  (Of course, everything is only about five minutes away in Rapids)
  

hazzben


OzJohnnie

Another Easter Monday thriller against the old foe.  And another game falling just short.  Geelong just managed to hang on for a five point victory.

First Half

Second Half