FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[hazzben]

Was kinda perfect. UST got blown out, but not in embarrassing for D3 fashion. I thought they played about as well as can be expected. Especially given the speed disparity at the skill positions.

[jamtod]

So how can I help stoke the fires for Johnnie-Royal hate week? Are we going to pull out the same old tired jokes and just swap out the Tommies for the Royals? I'm here for it.

[Texas Ole]

I don't think anyone should be expecting UST to compete at a high level in their first year of D1 athletics.  With the MIAC basically cancelling all sports while D1 teams still had a somewhat normal season it is going to be tough.  UST should win some games in all sports.  It's pretty hard to do the full O-fer.  If UST shows moderate success this year, and really starts competing for conference titles in the next 3 years I personally believe it will justify the move.  Now the inability to compete after 5-6 years will tell a very different story.  The MIAC has some rules which most of the college sports world find archaic, and I think the MIAC will likely strengthen them over the next several years.

[GoldandBlueBU]

So how can I help stoke the fires for Johnnie-Royal hate week? Are we going to pull out the same old tired jokes and just swap out the Tommies for the Royals? I'm here for it.

Ha!

I'm really excited to see the game...might even have to pay to watch it.

I'm glad that BU got a good test against an aerial attack against UWP (though SJU's is probably better), but don't think they've seen nearly as strong of a running game as SJU will present.  I think that BU's offense led by Roste will probably be able to put up points somewhere in the low to mid 20's, but I'm much less sure of the defense, just because they haven't gone against this caliber of team yet.

Only partially related - I really liked the blue jerseys that SJU rolled out this past week - the other teams wear a blue variant, and I always wondered why the football team excluded it.

[DuffMan]

Only partially related - I really liked the blue jerseys that SJU rolled out this past week - the other teams wear a blue variant, and I always wondered why the football team excluded it.

Way back when Gagliardi was a young pup, he had trouble seeing the numbers on film with the blue/red scheme, and it was also cheaper to go red/white.  So, the went with red/white, and it stuck through all these years.

[AO]

Only partially related - I really liked the blue jerseys that SJU rolled out this past week - the other teams wear a blue variant, and I always wondered why the football team excluded it.

Way back when Gagliardi was a young pup, he had trouble seeing the numbers on film with the blue/red scheme, and it was also cheaper to go red/white.  So, the went with red/white, and it stuck through all these years.

I thought the new jerseys were ugly but I was mostly thinking about the guys in the press box trying to read the numbers to do stats,play by play,and PA.  The blue is a nice color, but using the red with the blue is always going to be odd.  White numbers on a colored jersey, black numbers on a white jersey.

[faunch]

A little birdie tells me that a Tommie was ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct with just a couple minutes left in the big loss to UNI.  Does anyone have details?

I skimmed the play by play in the stats and didn't see any mention of a personal foul penalty....I'd a player were ejected it would likely have been a personal foul as well.

#40 Jack Mohler. Was a dumb play and the optics look really bad. The guy with the ball was stood up in the pile and it seems Jack came in trying to punch the ball out. That's my most charitable and purple tinted view, but it looked terrible and things were getting chippy at that point also.
Luke Glenna #23 was ejected earlier for roughing the passer and targeting also. If you pull up the ESPN3 footage, curious what you think.

I watched both...so here's my two cents. The "targeting" call was weird as the officials on the field didn't call it and the camera angles and video quality weren't that good. Glenna went airborne and then for some reason tucked his head which caused him to hit the qb in the facemask with the crown of his helmet. If you watch the plays before that Glenna his the qb high earlier in the possession and did not draw a flag. I always love to see a Tommie get the boot however I'm tired of players getting ejected for targeting as it seems to be applied inconsistently.
The Mohler play looked more egregious to me...even if was trying to knock the ball out he took what looked like two punches at the pile / UNI player. I also thought it was pretty obvious that the players forward progress was stopped. Considering there had just been a targeting ejection there's no way the officials could let it go. I can understand being frustrated being down 44-3 but the game was over...a turnover there does nothing...I agree it was kind of dumb play.
Are both of them out for the first half the next game?
Why have your starters in at that time of the game?

Reminds me of the STA / CDH game I went to on Friday night. STA was up 34-14 with about a minute to play and kept their starting running back in. They scored a garbage touchdown to win 41-14. Why risk them getting injured or having a frustrated opponent do something stupid?

[GoldandBlueBU]

Only partially related - I really liked the blue jerseys that SJU rolled out this past week - the other teams wear a blue variant, and I always wondered why the football team excluded it.

Way back when Gagliardi was a young pup, he had trouble seeing the numbers on film with the blue/red scheme, and it was also cheaper to go red/white.  So, the went with red/white, and it stuck through all these years.

I thought the new jerseys were ugly but I was mostly thinking about the guys in the press box trying to read the numbers to do stats,play by play,and PA.  The blue is a nice color, but using the red with the blue is always going to be odd.  White numbers on a colored jersey, black numbers on a white jersey.

Makes sense - I hadn't thought about that impact.  I've always thought the Chargers light blue jerseys were a cool look, and these are of that same ilk, but obviously San Diego doesn't have the red in the mix.

[hazzben]

So how can I help stoke the fires for Johnnie-Royal hate week? Are we going to pull out the same old tired jokes and just swap out the Tommies for the Royals? I'm here for it.

The problem is the Johnnie jokes/rips about the Tommie co-eds don't fit the Bethel co-eds  Wasn't that Linneman's argument/excuse for the '99 result in the Sweet Season too, something like "we couldn't perform, we were distracted by all the virgins."

So how can I help stoke the fires for Johnnie-Royal hate week? Are we going to pull out the same old tired jokes and just swap out the Tommies for the Royals? I'm here for it.

I'm glad that BU got a good test against an aerial attack against UWP (though SJU's is probably better), but don't think they've seen nearly as strong of a running game as SJU will present.  I think that BU's offense led by Roste will probably be able to put up points somewhere in the low to mid 20's, but I'm much less sure of the defense, just because they haven't gone against this caliber of team yet.

My concerns are actually the opposite. I think the D has looked really good, and their open field tackling has been awesome. Trost & Co. will be a much bigger test than UWP or NPU in the running game. But I like where our D is at. I'm more concerned about which Roste shows up, and our youngish Oline. Roste had a couple throws against UWP where Kidder totally bailed him out with an amazing catch, which could/should have been INT's. (side note, Kidder is a stud)

IMO, keys for the game on the Bethel side is our Oline and Roste's accuracy. He's also a huge dude for a D3 QB ... can he channel his inner Wetzel/Aakre, and use that size to punish some tacklers going for tough yards?

Very strange knowing this might just be the first of two matchups this year. Way too much football to play out before the MIAC championship matchups are known, but it's strange even having that potentially on the table. But I guess it also makes me a little happier they play this early in the season. Rather than a potential matchup and then rematch within 2-3 weeks of each other. 

[AO]

MIAC PICK-EMS
WEEK 3 STANDINGS


WEEK 4 SEPTEMBER 25

Conference: 3pts
#13 Bethel (+6.5) @ #6 St. John's
Concordia (+5.5) @ Gustavus
Hamline (+10.5) @ Carleton
Augsburg @ St. Scholastica (+20.5)
Macalester (+14.5) @ St. Olaf

Other games:1pt
Butler @ St. Thomas (+6.5)
#4 Mount Union @ #21 John Carroll (+14.5)
#7 Hardin-Simmons (+10.5) @ #2 Mary Hardin-Baylor

[jamtod]

I watched both...so here's my two cents. The "targeting" call was weird as the officials on the field didn't call it and the camera angles and video quality weren't that good. Glenna went airborne and then for some reason tucked his head which caused him to hit the qb in the facemask with the crown of his helmet. If you watch the plays before that Glenna his the qb high earlier in the possession and did not draw a flag. I always love to see a Tommie get the boot however I'm tired of players getting ejected for targeting as it seems to be applied inconsistently.
The Mohler play looked more egregious to me...even if was trying to knock the ball out he took what looked like two punches at the pile / UNI player. I also thought it was pretty obvious that the players forward progress was stopped. Considering there had just been a targeting ejection there's no way the officials could let it go. I can understand being frustrated being down 44-3 but the game was over...a turnover there does nothing...I agree it was kind of dumb play.
Are both of them out for the first half the next game?
Why have your starters in at that time of the game?

Mohler's listed as a 1 on the two-deep, but the 1s and 2s are in/out pretty frequently. We were mixing in some 3rd team guys at that point as well, but it was a 20 point game coming into the 4th when things got out of hand with big plays and the punt thing. Glenna's targeting call was right at the end of the 3rd.

I'm not totally clear on how the targeting/ejection rules work. The refs clarified that Mohler was ejected vs disqualified after initially getting that wrong, but somebody else will have to clarify that.

I got about halfway through the 1st quarter of my rewatch last night before the kids became a total PITA and disrupted my plans.

In a D3 tie-in, our opponent this week is Butler who was the only Pioneer League team to win Saturday even though they are expected to be last in the league. One of Butler's 2 wins came against Depauw. The other was against NAIA Taylor.

[GoldandBlueBU]

So how can I help stoke the fires for Johnnie-Royal hate week? Are we going to pull out the same old tired jokes and just swap out the Tommies for the Royals? I'm here for it.

The problem is the Johnnie jokes/rips about the Tommie co-eds don't fit the Bethel co-eds  Wasn't that Linneman's argument/excuse for the '99 result in the Sweet Season too, something like "we couldn't perform, we were distracted by all the virgins."

So how can I help stoke the fires for Johnnie-Royal hate week? Are we going to pull out the same old tired jokes and just swap out the Tommies for the Royals? I'm here for it.

I'm glad that BU got a good test against an aerial attack against UWP (though SJU's is probably better), but don't think they've seen nearly as strong of a running game as SJU will present.  I think that BU's offense led by Roste will probably be able to put up points somewhere in the low to mid 20's, but I'm much less sure of the defense, just because they haven't gone against this caliber of team yet.

My concerns are actually the opposite. I think the D has looked really good, and their open field tackling has been awesome. Trost & Co. will be a much bigger test than UWP or NPU in the running game. But I like where our D is at. I'm more concerned about which Roste shows up, and our youngish Oline. Roste had a couple throws against UWP where Kidder totally bailed him out with an amazing catch, which could/should have been INT's. (side note, Kidder is a stud)

IMO, keys for the game on the Bethel side is our Oline and Roste's accuracy. He's also a huge dude for a D3 QB ... can he channel his inner Wetzel/Aakre, and use that size to punish some tacklers going for tough yards?

Very strange knowing this might just be the first of two matchups this year. Way too much football to play out before the MIAC championship matchups are known, but it's strange even having that potentially on the table. But I guess it also makes me a little happier they play this early in the season. Rather than a potential matchup and then rematch within 2-3 weeks of each other.

Very good points - agree on the D thus far, more so wondering how it'll hold up against a much better team.  NP was overmatched against Bethel, and UWP just didn't have much of a run game - or maybe I'm not giving much credit and that was because BU does a good job against the run.  I had the same thought about the potential for two matchups.   I guess it could even be three if both made the playoffs, though I'm guessing it would require multiple wins from both?

I'm allowed to look forward since I'm just a dumb fan, so looking at next week and having an apparently capable Gustavus squad will make for a good couple of weeks of testing for BU.

[DuffMan]

I'm going to start this week's comments with the game up in Duluth with St. Scholastica hosting Augsburg. The Auggies are 0 and 2 for the season and are gunning for a win. The Saints only had one non-conference game scheduled in the first week of the season and it was canceled because Sewanee's team came down with COVID. The Saints are in a tight spot, having had no previous games until now. Even having the home field doesn't give them much advantage, if any. I am uncertain which of these teams will get the win, but if I had to give a nod to one of them, it would be to Augsburg, because they have a couple of games under their belts.

Aside from the obvious Johnnie/Royal matchup, this game intrigues me.  We've seen the Saints against the Johnnies a few times in recent years, but I will be interested in how they compete with the rest of the MIAC (have they played any other MIAC teams in the past few years?).  My nod would also go to the Auggies this weekend, but I think the Saints have the potential to be a mid-MIAC team.

[Wdavis5]

Aside from the obvious Johnnie/Royal matchup, this game intrigues me.  We've seen the Saints against the Johnnies a few times in recent years, but I will be interested in how they compete with the rest of the MIAC (have they played any other MIAC teams in the past few years?).  My nod would also go to the Auggies this weekend, but I think the Saints have the potential to be a mid-MIAC team.
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My fear with this game is we have 0 game or ever scrimmage action vs another team. I know they brought in a bunch of talent to go along with what they had left.  This team is going to be real real young. If they can buy in which i feel they are from listening to my 2 boys and the kids around them it will help.

I feel like a 4-4 season this year will be a win. IDK we will see.

[hazzben]

Very good points - agree on the D thus far, more so wondering how it'll hold up against a much better team.  NP was overmatched against Bethel, and UWP just didn't have much of a run game - or maybe I'm not giving much credit and that was because BU does a good job against the run.  I had the same thought about the potential for two matchups.   I guess it could even be three if both made the playoffs, though I'm guessing it would require multiple wins from both?

I'm allowed to look forward since I'm just a dumb fan, so looking at next week and having an apparently capable Gustavus squad will make for a good couple of weeks of testing for BU.

I think UWP had little interest in running the ball, and even less once we were stout against it, they are built to throw. And agreed, SJU will be light years better running the ball than either of our two opponents to date.