FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

I just peaked at how Aurora is doing.  After losing to SJU and NCC, they've won their last 3 games, and scored exactly 70 in each of those games. 

[Wdavis5]

Gustavus @ St. Scholastica (+45.5)

Looks like Gustavus played with a diff Qb vs Bethel then they had the 1st couple of games.

[DuffMan]

Looks like Gustavus played with a diff Qb vs Bethel then they had the 1st couple of games.

Yeah, Old Man Veldman was/is injured.

Michael Veldman: A Long Road

[repete]

Looks like Gustavus played with a diff Qb vs Bethel then they had the 1st couple of games.

Yeah, Old Man Veldman was injured.

Michael Veldman: A Long Road

No truth to the rumors that it is a hip replacement.

[hazzben]

Looks like Gustavus played with a diff Qb vs Bethel then they had the 1st couple of games.

Yeah, Old Man Veldman was injured.

Michael Veldman: A Long Road

No truth to the rumors that it is a hip replacement.

Bwahaha!!

[OldAuggie]

Still part of Auggie lore.

https://athletics.augsburg.edu/news/2011/9/23/fb092411.aspx

Yes, I was there! It was a thrill to storm the field after the win, all 45 of us.

I have not watched a game yet other than the end of the CSS game but Sheehan is mobile, he does remind me of Ayrton Scott. Scott was also not that tall, about the same height, and he ran out of the pocket so he could see receivers downfield. Sometimes he just continued the play by running.....

That gave me the urge to vomit.

PTSD manifests itself in strange ways.......

[SagatagSam]

So, I went back to the archives to do something I haven't done in many years: read the CSB-SJU Record. I wasn't looking for anything in particular. I really just wanted to see how much has changed and stayed the same.

Then this headline in the opinion section jumped out from the October 1, 2021:

"Respect needs to come first for football fans"

The piece was authored by Athletic Director Bob Alpers, Gary Fasching, and the SJU football players and coaching staff.

They wrote to address (read: put an end to) a few things:
1) The students have been a little rowdy during the Star Spangled Banner, obnoxiously singing along apparently.
2) The students have been (deliberately?) breaking apart/knocking over the temporary barriers in the end zone after almost every score.
3) They want the students to stop storming the field as a matter of habit after every game--they did so after the Martin Luther and Bethel wins.

You can read for yourself here: https://cdm.csbsju.edu/digital/collection/CSBArchNews/id/44363/rec/2287

(just click on the image of the page and it will allow you to zoom in on the text)

[Pat Coleman]

Johnnie students have sung along to the national anthem at basically every game I can remember for the past several years. I don't know that it's obnoxious.

Axl Theimer used to have that choir moving along at a pretty good clip. The new director of choral activities took a more leisurely pace. Maybe if they picked up the tempo the students couldn't keep up.

[hazzben]

So, I went back to the archives to do something I haven't done in many years: read the CSB-SJU Record. I wasn't looking for anything in particular. I really just wanted to see how much has changed and stayed the same.

Then this headline in the opinion section jumped out from the October 1, 2021:

"Respect needs to come first for football fans"

The piece was authored by Athletic Director Bob Alpers, Gary Fasching, and the SJU football players and coaching staff.

They wrote to address (read: put an end to) a few things:
1) The students have been a little rowdy during the Star Spangled Banner, obnoxiously singing along apparently.
2) The students have been (deliberately?) breaking apart/knocking over the temporary barriers in the end zone after almost every score.
3) They want the students to stop storming the field as a matter of habit after every game--they did so after the Martin Luther and Bethel wins.

You can read for yourself here: https://cdm.csbsju.edu/digital/collection/CSBArchNews/id/44363/rec/2287

(just click on the image of the page and it will allow you to zoom in on the text)

I initially clicked on this, thinking it was gonna be a bit of a "kids these days" article. But then I read this gem:

Families of our players, many with small children, almost get trampled by our own students. One of our own students shoved a referee, as the ref was trying to avoid being run over, and another took a swing at an opposing coach.

I wonder who the opposing coach was?? But on the whole, good on the SJU admin to address it and put an end to it before someone does get hurt. Or a coach punches back 

[hazzben]

Johnnie students have sung along to the national anthem at basically every game I can remember for the past several years. I don't know that it's obnoxious.

Axl Theimer used to have that choir moving along at a pretty good clip. The new director of choral activities took a more leisurely pace. Maybe if they picked up the tempo the students couldn't keep up.

My read here is that they are singing in a disrespectful manner (I'm imagining loud, intentionally out of tune, etc.). There are plenty of fans who sing along with the anthem. It seems to be an issue of respect and decorum. And punching other teams coaches, lol.

[GoldandBlueBU]

So, I went back to the archives to do something I haven't done in many years: read the CSB-SJU Record. I wasn't looking for anything in particular. I really just wanted to see how much has changed and stayed the same.

Then this headline in the opinion section jumped out from the October 1, 2021:

"Respect needs to come first for football fans"

The piece was authored by Athletic Director Bob Alpers, Gary Fasching, and the SJU football players and coaching staff.

They wrote to address (read: put an end to) a few things:
1) The students have been a little rowdy during the Star Spangled Banner, obnoxiously singing along apparently.
2) The students have been (deliberately?) breaking apart/knocking over the temporary barriers in the end zone after almost every score.
3) They want the students to stop storming the field as a matter of habit after every game--they did so after the Martin Luther and Bethel wins.

You can read for yourself here: https://cdm.csbsju.edu/digital/collection/CSBArchNews/id/44363/rec/2287

(just click on the image of the page and it will allow you to zoom in on the text)

I initially clicked on this, thinking it was gonna be a bit of a "kids these days" article. But then I read this gem:

Families of our players, many with small children, almost get trampled by our own students. One of our own students shoved a referee, as the ref was trying to avoid being run over, and another took a swing at an opposing coach.

I wonder who the opposing coach was?? But on the whole, good on the SJU admin to address it and put an end to it before someone does get hurt. Or a coach punches back 

I guess the Johnnies need to play those fancy videos that they developed talking about how much character they have more frequently around campus.   

[OzJohnnie]

Obnoxious singing I don't like, particularly to the Star Bangled Banner.  There must be something to that because discouraging non-obnoxious singing is half a step from a straight jacket.  But tell a drunk young adult who is out on their own for the first time in their lives that they shouldn't do something...

Breaking the student section barriers.  The price of popularity.  I remember when the student section was only full for the Tommies and at best half full for a couple others and otherwise empty.  It was 3/4's full for Martin Luther, for goodness sake.  I'm afraid the current barriers are not a crowd management solution appropriate to the task.   Someone better call Granite Logistics and get a better idea.

I've often wondered about the wear and tear on the field from the post game celebration.  Australian football used to have a unique solution to the crowd storming the field (now they issue $11k fines and jail sentences as the the Australian style it seems, but 15 years ago they had a different, more culture enhancing approach).  They used to have security lining the boundary as the game finished but about three or four minutes after the game and the players have cleared the field then the horn would sound and it was a crazy race from all angles of the boundary for first to the centre circle.  The crowd noise would swell in anticipation of the huge collision in the middle and then erupt as everyone crashed together.  Assuming wear and tear is ok, maybe a collision based approach like that could work.  Let them on the field but after all is clear and free to be stomped.

[SJU13]

Seems it might be a player/ref safety concern with the barricades, but it doesn't seem a stretch for a potential unsportsmanlike getting thrown if a player gets mobbed after a touchdown.

"We are St. John's. We expect to win."

Hopefully the message is heard.

[repete]

Ugh. Sad. I saw some pretty rowdy stuff in the '70s that wouldn't fly now, but nothing like pushing a ref or swinging at a coach.

Interestingly, I was close to posting last week that it would  be great if the broadcast folks could sacrifice a couple ad sales and just pick up  both the school song and anthem. Maybe not....

[GoldandBlueBU]

If this had been in the UST MIAC days, I'd second mortgage my house on a bet that Faunch would be here calling for Caruso to be fired, and UST to be barred from the playoffs for that type of behavior...

In reality though - good of them to call out the crappy behavior.  Hopefully there are enough leaders in the student section to put it to an end. (the ref-shoving and taking a swing at a coach stuff - the Anthem stuff is low-class, but as Oz pointed out, to be expected from young kids making their own decisions for the first time...and the barriers getting broken should be a surprise to nobody).