FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OzJohnnie]

I don't like them.  Too soft.

I'm still waiting for mine. 

It looks good on you, though. 

[DuffMan]

I think I do get a bowl of soup with it.

[SJU13]

@Wdavis5;

Did your son get hurt as you suspected?  If so, hopefully not too bad and he's available for this weekend against MAC.


On another note, I noticed that the CSS QB is from Sublimity, Oregon.  I've never heard of the place but it sounds beautiful.

Yes Sir, Torn UCL done for season.

Damn, that's  shame.  I had to look it up to be sure as that's in the elbow and normally a throwing injury.  Odd injury in a football game, I would think.  Anyways, I'm sorry to hear that and wish him a good recovery.

Thank all of you all for the best wishes.  He was trying to get of the block of #3 and went down awkwardly. #3 got a taunting call on it as well.  He will see a specialist tomorrow and we will see for sure. The trainers yesterday was saying UCL so we will get the official word tomorrow. Ill be up there thursday but will only get to watch one son play now.

Damn. Not a great look considering Ravi is a senior and should know better. Based on comments on this board we didn't exactly demonstrate graceful winning on Saturday. Hopefully good news comes from the specialist.

[OzJohnnie]

Based on comments on this board we didn't exactly demonstrate graceful winning on Saturday.

If this is something that's getting out of hand then I hope it's addressed straight away.  The student section was dealt with.  Make sure the players play well, too.

[Texas Ole]

I wonder how many of the teams in the d3football.com Top 25 poll are left out of the 32-team playoff each year? I look forward to seeing the poll each week, but it's disappointing that it has no bearing on who makes the playoff field. For instance, assuming St John's defeats Bethel in the conference championship game, Bethel's only losses would be to St John's. I have to believe they'd beat at least half of the teams that will make the playoff, but will likely be snubbed.

Yeah, if it's true that the MIAC Championship game is to be short lived, it would really be annoying to have it cost Bethel a playoff spot. I think we are still a little green on the Oline to beat SJU this year. And being down a few Dlineman won't help either. Hoping I'm proved wrong.

Kind of how I feel also, unfortunately.  Sort of seems like BU's better chance was to catch SJU in the game early in the year.

Hopefully a home game for the championship helps a bit!

I'm also curious to see for the MIAC in general how many players take advantage of the extra year granted from COVID?  For the team's sake, I would love to see Roste back next year, but how many of the guys like him will choose to move on with their lives either because they have job or grad school opportunities, and / or don't want to incur another semester of tuition?

My guess is very few will stick around for the extra year of eligibility.  The rules against graduate students doesn't help.

I see the MIAC championship game or a similar format holding for some time.  When UST was traded for Mac and CSS there was a pretty big shift in philosophy for the conference.  It is not that schools don't want to win, but I think the institutional goals are different.  I could see a situation where an 8 or 9 game conference schedule is used similar to what the Big Ten and Big 12 have used in recent years, but my guess is that the MIAC does whatever it can to keep the peace with the football/hockey schools to maintain the AQ status.  I do argue that if you can't win your conference why do you think you can win the national title.  I know that argument may not always hold water, but is something to consider.  I think the bigger concern would be if Bethel wins the AQ this year and SJU finishes 10-1 not making the post-season. 

[jamtod]

I wonder how many of the teams in the d3football.com Top 25 poll are left out of the 32-team playoff each year? I look forward to seeing the poll each week, but it's disappointing that it has no bearing on who makes the playoff field. For instance, assuming St John's defeats Bethel in the conference championship game, Bethel's only losses would be to St John's. I have to believe they'd beat at least half of the teams that will make the playoff, but will likely be snubbed.

Yeah, if it's true that the MIAC Championship game is to be short lived, it would really be annoying to have it cost Bethel a playoff spot. I think we are still a little green on the Oline to beat SJU this year. And being down a few Dlineman won't help either. Hoping I'm proved wrong.

Kind of how I feel also, unfortunately.  Sort of seems like BU's better chance was to catch SJU in the game early in the year.

Hopefully a home game for the championship helps a bit!

I'm also curious to see for the MIAC in general how many players take advantage of the extra year granted from COVID?  For the team's sake, I would love to see Roste back next year, but how many of the guys like him will choose to move on with their lives either because they have job or grad school opportunities, and / or don't want to incur another semester of tuition?

My guess is very few will stick around for the extra year of eligibility.  The rules against graduate students doesn't help.

I see the MIAC championship game or a similar format holding for some time.  When UST was traded for Mac and CSS there was a pretty big shift in philosophy for the conference.  It is not that schools don't want to win, but I think the institutional goals are different.  I could see a situation where an 8 or 9 game conference schedule is used similar to what the Big Ten and Big 12 have used in recent years, but my guess is that the MIAC does whatever it can to keep the peace with the football/hockey schools to maintain the AQ status.  I do argue that if you can't win your conference why do you think you can win the national title.  I know that argument may not always hold water, but is something to consider.  I think the bigger concern would be if Bethel wins the AQ this year and SJU finishes 10-1 not making the post-season.

2019 champ North Central to the white courtesy phone
https://www.d3football.com/teams/North_Central_(Ill.)/2019/index

[Retired Old Rat]

I wonder how many of the teams in the d3football.com Top 25 poll are left out of the 32-team playoff each year? I look forward to seeing the poll each week, but it's disappointing that it has no bearing on who makes the playoff field. For instance, assuming St John's defeats Bethel in the conference championship game, Bethel's only losses would be to St John's. I have to believe they'd beat at least half of the teams that will make the playoff, but will likely be snubbed.

Yeah, if it's true that the MIAC Championship game is to be short lived, it would really be annoying to have it cost Bethel a playoff spot. I think we are still a little green on the Oline to beat SJU this year. And being down a few Dlineman won't help either. Hoping I'm proved wrong.

Kind of how I feel also, unfortunately.  Sort of seems like BU's better chance was to catch SJU in the game early in the year.

Hopefully a home game for the championship helps a bit!

I'm also curious to see for the MIAC in general how many players take advantage of the extra year granted from COVID?  For the team's sake, I would love to see Roste back next year, but how many of the guys like him will choose to move on with their lives either because they have job or grad school opportunities, and / or don't want to incur another semester of tuition?

My guess is very few will stick around for the extra year of eligibility.  The rules against graduate students doesn't help.

I see the MIAC championship game or a similar format holding for some time.  When UST was traded for Mac and CSS there was a pretty big shift in philosophy for the conference.  It is not that schools don't want to win, but I think the institutional goals are different.  I could see a situation where an 8 or 9 game conference schedule is used similar to what the Big Ten and Big 12 have used in recent years, but my guess is that the MIAC does whatever it can to keep the peace with the football/hockey schools to maintain the AQ status.  I do argue that if you can't win your conference why do you think you can win the national title.  I know that argument may not always hold water, but is something to consider.  I think the bigger concern would be if Bethel wins the AQ this year and SJU finishes 10-1 not making the post-season.

2019 champ North Central to the white courtesy phone
https://www.d3football.com/teams/North_Central_(Ill.)/2019/index

SJU 2000 Stagg Bowl runner up finished second in the MIAC that year.  Loss was 10-7, on a last minute field goal by Mount.  Bethel won the conference that year.

[MadRedFan]

Something not touched on yet--and I'm surprised that it didn't come up on the in-game updates chat--is that the Johnnies were wearing the Sagatagan Blue™ uniforms against Scholastica. A few thoughts:

1) Damn those jerseys look good. I thought I would hate them, but they seem to work.
2) I'm still a rad trad at heart. They need to limit the use of the Sagatagan Blues™ to just once per season. Again, not because I hate them, but because I love them and want them to be special jerseys. I just think you can't wear "special" jerseys 2+ times per season and not diminish the novelty.

I don't like them.  Too soft.  If we line up against UWW in that gear then we'll be slaughtered.

First time out, I said to my next-door seatmate at Clemens the thought had when they ran out was pink locker room at Iowa under Hayden Fry.

Agree with the "once a year" approach.

[MadRedFan]

@Wdavis5;

Did your son get hurt as you suspected?  If so, hopefully not too bad and he's available for this weekend against MAC.


On another note, I noticed that the CSS QB is from Sublimity, Oregon.  I've never heard of the place but it sounds beautiful.

Yes Sir, Torn UCL done for season.

Damn, that's  shame.  I had to look it up to be sure as that's in the elbow and normally a throwing injury.  Odd injury in a football game, I would think.  Anyways, I'm sorry to hear that and wish him a good recovery.

Thank all of you all for the best wishes.  He was trying to get of the block of #3 and went down awkwardly. #3 got a taunting call on it as well.  He will see a specialist tomorrow and we will see for sure. The trainers yesterday was saying UCL so we will get the official word tomorrow. Ill be up there thursday but will only get to watch one son play now.

On the SJU post game radio show, it was speculated that #3 Alston, not known to be a jackass, was trying to inquire about your kid's situation, and the ref interpreted it as taunting.  I have no idea if that's close to being true - I would guess you do, but thought I'd throw that out there if there was doubt in your mind.

[art76]

The cross conference game this week has Macalester traveling up to Duluth to take on St. Scholastica. With the Scots taking the Old Paint Bucket game last weekend, they most likely break up the possibility of facing the Schollies two weeks in a row.  Instead, most likely, Macalester will get the pleasure of playing Carleton a second time this season in week 11. The Saints will most likely be facing Hamline in week 11.

The blowout/shut out game for this week has to be St. John's traveling down to Northfield to take on Carleton. The Knights will be a bit stiffer of a test than the Saints were this past weekend, and the Johnnies will be using this as a tune-up game in part to prepare for a second road trip in a row to Bethel, most likely, or Augsburg, if the Auggies can stun the Royals.

Taking the segue, the third game for the week has Augsburg riding the bus up Snelling to play at BU. The Royals had an unusually sloppy game this past week in defeating the Oles. Earlier this year, the Auggies defeated the Oles, so this looks like a closer game on paper than it will probably be, but who knows how the football will bounce? Augsburg has risen to knock the Royals out of playoff contention in the past, but I sure hope they don't keep it close this weekend.

The Cobbers are on the road this week, headed to Hamline. These teams have identical records at 3 and 5, but Concordia has looked and done better in conference play. I see no way that the Pipers win this game, falling to 0 and 4 in division play, and facing St. Scholastica in week 11.

The final game of the week has St. Olaf on the road to take on the Gusties. If the Oles can upset Gustavus, there will be no Troll Trophy game this year. If things go as expected, there there will be, because Concordia would then be hosting the Oles in week 11.

[DuffMan]

The Auggie Tech/BU games have definitely surprised me in the past.  I fully expect the Baptists to prevail, but the Auggies have proven to be a thorn in Johnson's side enough to make this a little worrisome for you Bethel folks.

[Robert Zimmerman]

A nice article on Roste from Bethel (need a subscription or incognito)

https://www.startribune.com/bethel-qb-finds-meaning-in-helping-others-for-60-hours-a-week/600112165/

[jamtod]

A nice article on Roste from Bethel (need a subscription or incognito)

https://www.startribune.com/bethel-qb-finds-meaning-in-helping-others-for-60-hours-a-week/600112165/

Very nice article and seems like a great kid.

But I'm even more confused about the MIAC and grad students. Is there not a rule prohibiting grad students from competing?

[GoldandBlueBU]

The Auggie Tech/BU games have definitely surprised me in the past.  I fully expect the Baptists to prevail, but the Auggies have proven to be a thorn in Johnson's side enough to make this a little worrisome for you Bethel folks.

Though I do think that Augsburg is on an upward trajectory, which is great, outside of the Aayrton Scott era, BU hasn't had too many problems.  62-6 win in 2019, 75-0 win in 2018, 42-22 in 2017, 62-27 in 2016.  The 4 years before that, they were 2-2 with Scott at the helm.  Even in the two losses, he played great games against BU.

[SJU13]

Assuming BU doesn't get the AQ how much, if any, does playing in the Skyline division help or hurt them now (and possibly long term). Northwoods division on pace to see 3/5 with winning records, 1 with a .500 record unless STO pulls the win against GAC. Skyline has BU above .500, with Augsburg and Concordia getting into most likely .500 territory. Current division matchups are Northwoods with an 8-5 record against the Skyline. 3 more cross division matchups that I see: Carleton vs MAC, CSS vs MAC and HU.

I recognize there are some outliers with Augsburg and Carleton having perhaps an above average season with Concordia having a bit of a down one. I imagine CSS will pick up some wins here in the next few seasons though which could play with the spread.