FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[jakeMN91]

Hypothetically (obviously not predicting this), if St. John's won out and Carleton's only loss was a one point OT nailbiter to St. John's. SJU would play Bethel in the championship week then, correct? If Bethel wins the rematch convincingly and Carleton blows out whoever would be #2 in Skyline, what would be the likelihood that two MIAC teams get in? What about the likelihood that those two teams would be 9-1 Carleton and 9-1 Bethel, while 8-2 SJU is left at home? Interesting to think about

In that scenario, Carleton/SJU Pool C chances would really come down to how the region 6 committee ranks the teams. Carleton would have 0-1 wins against regionally ranked opponents (possibly Gustavus?). SJU would have 2-4 RRO wins (UWW, UWRF, Carleton?, GAC?). SJU would have a better SOS than Carleton. Both SJU and Carleton would presumably behind UWL for Pool C. 9-1 UWL probably comes off the board for one of the first Pool C spots. It's tougher to guess what happens after that.

[SagatagSam]

Hypothetically (obviously not predicting this), if St. John's won out and Carleton's only loss was a one point OT nailbiter to St. John's. SJU would play Bethel in the championship week then, correct? If Bethel wins the rematch convincingly and Carleton blows out whoever would be #2 in Skyline, what would be the likelihood that two MIAC teams get in? What about the likelihood that those two teams would be 9-1 Carleton and 9-1 Bethel, while 8-2 SJU is left at home? Interesting to think about

You're correct as to who would play for the MIAC Championship / NCAA auto bid.
As to the rest, it's going to come down to strength of schedule. SJU would likely have wins against regionally ranked opponents in Whitewater, River Falls, and possibly Gustavus. Carleton's glaring weakness in the strength of schedule department is Crown and UM-Morris. I guess one other piece that could come into play is how convincing Carleton's wins are against Concordia and Gustavus. I think anything less than beating Concordia and Gustavus by 2-3 touchdowns won't be enough of a statement for an at-large.

I would imagine that if we have one-loss Carleton vs. two-loss SJU for consideration for an at-large, it probably goes to SJU by virtue of the wins over Whitewater and River Falls.

However, the more interesting question in my mind is where a one-loss Carleton team ends up in the regional rankings. They should be there, right? Carleton is receiving votes in the Region 6 fan poll.

[TheChucker]

If I'm understanding the MIAC conference championship process correctly, the championship game is played between the two teams with the best divisional record, and not conference record. So, under this scenario, the team with the best conference record in each division could theoretically not make it to the championship game. Right? If that's the case, the Bethel/Concordia game this week might be for the divisional championship.

Championship weekend blurb from the MIAC website below:


MIAC Championships, November 12th - 12th
2022Northwoods Division Host

The final week of the MIAC regular season will be "Championship Week." MIAC teams will be ranked 1-5 in each division based on the current season's in-division games only. Each team will then match up with the corresponding seed in the other division for the final conference game of the season. The winner of the contest between the two divisional leaders will receive the MIAC's automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Football Playoffs.

In 2022, teams from the Northwoods Division will host Championship Week.
https://miacathletics.com/tournaments/?id=5

[SagatagSam]

If I'm understanding the MIAC conference championship process correctly, the championship game is played between the two teams with the best divisional record, and not conference record. So, under this scenario, the team with the best conference record in each division could theoretically not make it to the championship game. Right? If that's the case, the Bethel/Concordia game this week might be for the divisional championship.

Championship weekend blurb from the MIAC website below:


MIAC Championships, November 12th - 12th
2022Northwoods Division Host

The final week of the MIAC regular season will be "Championship Week." MIAC teams will be ranked 1-5 in each division based on the current season's in-division games only. Each team will then match up with the corresponding seed in the other division for the final conference game of the season. The winner of the contest between the two divisional leaders will receive the MIAC's automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Football Playoffs.

In 2022, teams from the Northwoods Division will host Championship Week.
https://miacathletics.com/tournaments/?id=5

That's my understanding as well. As far as Championship Weekend goes, there are some possibilities for some strange outcomes. I mean, hypothetically, SJU could have lost all of its non-conference games and the first three games of the conference schedule (which were all crossover games), then run the table in the divisional schedule to go into championship weekend at 4-5 overall (4-0 division), win the conference title game and get the auto bid.

If they are going to keep the divisional format around, I would almost rather see something that involves overall record as the primary criteria and then have divisional record be the first tiebreaker.

[SagatagSam]

Dave McHugh with some solid thoughts on being able to view archived game footage (links to tweets below).

I've been seeing more complaints and debates in #d3fb about teams hiding archives of video streams. It's something that happens in all sports and a practice I've preached against for years.

I don't think people grasp the absurdity.

With #d3hoops season soon, a #Hoopsville Rant:







https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1579527577810919424?s=20&t=m0d8boagSMimcSJghVFP1A

https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1579527589018099713?s=20&t=m0d8boagSMimcSJghVFP1A

[TheChucker]

If I'm understanding the MIAC conference championship process correctly, the championship game is played between the two teams with the best divisional record, and not conference record. So, under this scenario, the team with the best conference record in each division could theoretically not make it to the championship game. Right? If that's the case, the Bethel/Concordia game this week might be for the divisional championship.

Championship weekend blurb from the MIAC website below:


MIAC Championships, November 12th - 12th
2022Northwoods Division Host

The final week of the MIAC regular season will be "Championship Week." MIAC teams will be ranked 1-5 in each division based on the current season's in-division games only. Each team will then match up with the corresponding seed in the other division for the final conference game of the season. The winner of the contest between the two divisional leaders will receive the MIAC's automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Football Playoffs.

In 2022, teams from the Northwoods Division will host Championship Week.
https://miacathletics.com/tournaments/?id=5

That's my understanding as well. As far as Championship Weekend goes, there are some possibilities for some strange outcomes. I mean, hypothetically, SJU could have lost all of its non-conference games and the first three games of the conference schedule (which were all crossover games), then run the table in the divisional schedule to go into championship weekend at 4-5 overall (4-0 division), win the conference title game and get the auto bid.

If they are going to keep the divisional format around, I would almost rather see something that involves overall record as the primary criteria and then have divisional record be the first tiebreaker.

Until I looked it up, I just assumed the championship game would be the two divisional leaders with the best conference record which is pretty much the standard. I'm curious why the MIAC set it up this way. Last year was the first year this method was used. It included the two best conference teams so the divisional record issue didn't matter.

[SagatagSam]

Dave McHugh with some solid thoughts on being able to view archived game footage (links to tweets below).

I've been seeing more complaints and debates in #d3fb about teams hiding archives of video streams. It's something that happens in all sports and a practice I've preached against for years.

I don't think people grasp the absurdity.

With #d3hoops season soon, a #Hoopsville Rant:

https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1579527577810919424?s=20&t=m0d8boagSMimcSJghVFP1A

https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1579527589018099713?s=20&t=m0d8boagSMimcSJghVFP1A

As all things begin and end with SJU in my world, I ask: are the archived games available to those who pay for the live video? I've always not paid for the live feeds because usually in the fall I'm doing something like a kids' soccer game, family pictures, or taking my kids to an apple orchard or pumpkin patch (they're all girls and all under age 6).

I get that the live feeds are put behind a pay wall to encourage in-person attendance for local fans and get some cha-ching from those of us who live far away. But, why not have the archived games made available within 12-24 hours of the conclusion of the game? They can still protect in-game attendance while giving access for those of us that aren't able to make it to Collegeville.

[DuffMan]

With Mattern's transfer, what does the depth chart at quarterback for the Johnnies look like?

I was a little surprised when SJU put in not one, but two freshman in at QB this weekend.  It appears that QB #2 is freshman Zander Dittbenner (Mankato West), and QB #3 is freshman Lucas Jansky (Kimball).

I'm guessing they only brought 3 QBs along, so they must see good promise out of those two.

[GoldandBlueBU]

With Mattern's transfer, what does the depth chart at quarterback for the Johnnies look like?

I was a little surprised when SJU put in not one, but two freshman in at QB this weekend.  It appears that QB #2 is freshman Zander Dittbenner (Mankato West), and QB #3 is freshman Lucas Jansky (Kimball).

I'm guessing they only brought 3 QBs along, so they must see good promise out of those two.

No - it has to be that crazy Dr's kid as the heir apparent.  You must be wrong....?

[DuffMan]

No - it has to be that crazy Dr's kid as the heir apparent.  You must be wrong....?

Maybe Bethel will be his next stop.  Or will Roste find another year of eligibility?

[GoldandBlueBU]

No - it has to be that crazy Dr's kid as the heir apparent.  You must be wrong....?

Maybe Bethel will be his next stop.  Or will Roste find another year of eligibility?

Roste for sure.

4 more years!  4 more years!

[SagatagSam]

No - it has to be that crazy Dr's kid as the heir apparent.  You must be wrong....?

Coaches are keeping him under wraps.

He's like the Red October--top secret and absolutely lethal. But, the minute you put him out for an exercise in the Polyarny Inlet, he's busting his a$$ down Red Route One in the Reykjanes Ridge and faking his own death in the Laurentian Abyss so he can defect to his team's archnemesis.

[hazzben]

Yeah, given how the Skyline looks, this game is the the conference GOTY for the Royals/Cobbers, until the winner likely plays in the MIAC Championship game at seasons end. Cobbers have everything to play for in this game.

And agree, I'd like to see overall conference record be the primary, with divisional record be the tie breaker.

[jakeMN91]

If I'm understanding the MIAC conference championship process correctly, the championship game is played between the two teams with the best divisional record, and not conference record. So, under this scenario, the team with the best conference record in each division could theoretically not make it to the championship game. Right? If that's the case, the Bethel/Concordia game this week might be for the divisional championship.

Championship weekend blurb from the MIAC website below:


MIAC Championships, November 12th - 12th
2022Northwoods Division Host

The final week of the MIAC regular season will be "Championship Week." MIAC teams will be ranked 1-5 in each division based on the current season's in-division games only. Each team will then match up with the corresponding seed in the other division for the final conference game of the season. The winner of the contest between the two divisional leaders will receive the MIAC's automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Football Playoffs.

In 2022, teams from the Northwoods Division will host Championship Week.
https://miacathletics.com/tournaments/?id=5

That's my understanding as well. As far as Championship Weekend goes, there are some possibilities for some strange outcomes. I mean, hypothetically, SJU could have lost all of its non-conference games and the first three games of the conference schedule (which were all crossover games), then run the table in the divisional schedule to go into championship weekend at 4-5 overall (4-0 division), win the conference title game and get the auto bid.

If they are going to keep the divisional format around, I would almost rather see something that involves overall record as the primary criteria and then have divisional record be the first tiebreaker.

Until I looked it up, I just assumed the championship game would be the two divisional leaders with the best conference record which is pretty much the standard. I'm curious why the MIAC set it up this way. Last year was the first year this method was used. It included the two best conference teams so the divisional record issue didn't matter.

Perhaps this is because teams in one division do not play ALL of the teams in the other division. For example, Concordia plays GAC, SJU and Bethel this year. Macalester doesn't play SJU or Gustavus. Their MIAC schedule is much easier than Concordia's, but their divisional schedule is the same. Concordia would have a significant disadvantage if conference record was the primary criteria.

[DuffMan]

Surprised there hasn't been mention of the Johnnie Double Stompout^TM.