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SagatagSam

What a heartbreak for Carleton over the weekend. Here's something strange: despite the loss to unranked Concordia, Carleton not only kept receiving votes, but gained a vote from the previous week's poll.

Week 7 Top 25 (MIAC)

5. Saint John's (497)
11. Bethel (385)
RV. Carleton (3)

Week 8 Top 25
4. Saint John's (519)
11. Bethel (394)
RV. Carleton (4)
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

DuffMan

Quote from: SagatagSam on October 24, 2022, 09:19:00 AM
Here's something strange: despite the loss to unranked Concordia, Carleton not only kept receiving votes, but gained a vote from the previous week's poll.

I noticed that, as well.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on October 17, 2022, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: SagatagSam on October 17, 2022, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: faunch on October 15, 2022, 10:54:27 PM
Love my Johnies but I think Gus Davis will win next week.

This would be a heckuva time for the Johnnies to put together their first complete game. It's been bumpy these last several weeks. I don't think they get it done without a complete game--very little margin for error against Gustavus. It's nice that the game is in Collegeville though.

I'd be pretty surprised to see SJU lose to Gustavus...I'm fully expecting a re-match in Collegeville for the MIAC title.  Still curious when we'll hear whether they're going to carry this championship week forward?

Told ya so.

Maybe SJU isn't the juggernaut they looked like when they knocked off UWW, but they're still a very, very good team, and I think it will take a very solid effort out of BU to beat them @ SJU in the championship - I'd even be a bit surprised - I think it's pretty difficult to knock off a good team twice in one season, and this one will be on the road.


hazzben

Yeah and GAC is good. A fluky ending against a good Stout team and two competitive games against SJU and Bethel. I thought Saturday was a sign SJU was trending back up. Granted the UWW win lost some luster as well by the time the dust settled.

MIAC23

Quote from: carletonknights on October 22, 2022, 04:50:53 PM
Yikes that was a missed opportunity. Carleton tied the game up at 13-13 with 59 seconds left and the Carleton kicker missed his first extra point of the season. Concordia got another chance in overtime and they took advantage. Two huge scrambles by their QB.

Credit to the Concordia defense for stepping up at key moments today. Was a little peeved they kept coincidentally having cramps when Carleton would get in a rhythm and go up tempo. Singleton did not look good today. The offensive line was constantly getting beat in pass protection. The offense as a whole looked bad today and had a ton of mistakes: 2 redzone fumbles, 2 interceptions. Special teams was the difference though, 2 punts blocked including one that was scooped up for a TD and what should've been the extra point to win them the game and advance to 7-0, missed.

Well I think these two teams may meet again in the final week and if they do, I'm betting on Carleton to win the rematch in Northfield. On to GAC.

This was one of the worst college football games I have ever seen live. Both teams tried to give the game away mulitple times, but it was finally Concordia that snatched the victory. Carlton had multiple turnovers, a blocked punt for a TD (which is the only way Concordia was going to score), missed assignments, etc. Concordia was booed off the field by the fans, as they chose to run out the clock when they had the ball at midfield with 20 seconds left and all three timeouts with a 15 MPH wind at their back, instead of trying to win the game in regulation. I guess it worked out, but a headscratching move nonetheless. I was really curious to see how Carleton looked coming in with a 6-0 record. I would guess they will get smashed by Gustavus and the Johnnies. Not impressed.

DuffMan

Quote from: hazzben on October 24, 2022, 09:58:13 AM
GAC is good.

GAC is solid.  I was impressed by their offense.  Their defense was decent, too.

I just don't see that the '22 Johnnies have the ability to make a playoff run.  Their o-line play has been inconsistent, I've seen too many dropped balls by receivers, and their defensive secondary is soft.  They're good, yes, but they have a long way to go to be great.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

BU5758

Quote from: OzJohnnie on October 23, 2022, 10:19:12 PM
On Bethel and just between us kids here on the MIAC boards, Roste is not the only big game hunter that Bethel has this year.  The squad is loaded with seniors all over the place.

Current Bethel Depth Chart..2 deep...Offense: 6 seniors out of 22; Defense: 5 seniors out of 22; Special Teams: 0 Seniors. 25% Seniors on Offense and Defense isn't exactly "loaded".  22 Sophomores and Freshman out of 44 on the 2 deep chart is "loaded"!

Ice Bear

Ice still admittedly has a lot to learn about MIAC football and this will be true for many years to come. Ice says, after saying that, he believes firmly after watching Bethel play a bunch this season that this team, while certainly loaded with talent on both sides of ball, is a very, very different team with and without Rockin Roste. Ice says some teams just are that way. They may have a plethora of playmakers and talent, but it's one player, sometimes two (maybe), that propel the team to meet it's true potential. Roste is one.

If you watched the UWP/Bethel game the Royals were simply a different offensive team (and believe Ice he means this with no disrespect to Bolt, but Roste's numbers rarely if ever look like 8-27 for 76 Yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs). Not only can anything happen when Rockin Roste is on the field, but the young man makes everyone better around him. To Ice, there sits the difference between a team that can defeat a very good Johnnies team one week and lose to a now seemingly high ceiling Platteville team who was also playing with their backup QB (If the Bear's ****ty memory is working) another.

Does Ice think with Roste that the Royals can win it all? No, probably not. Yet to infer that this team functions on a similar level when he is not grabbing the center's ass on each play, is simply erroneous at best.
A long time fan of DIII Football!

BU5758

Quote from: Ice Bear on October 24, 2022, 10:51:33 AM
Ice still admittedly has a lot to learn about MIAC football and this will be true for many years to come. Ice says, after saying that, he believes firmly after watching Bethel play a bunch this season that this team, while certainly loaded with talent on both sides of ball, is a very, very different team with and without Rockin Roste. Ice says some teams just are that way. They may have a plethora of playmakers and talent, but it's one player, sometimes two (maybe), that propel the team to meet it's true potential. Roste is one.

If you watched the UWP/Bethel game the Royals were simply a different offensive team (and believe Ice he means this with no disrespect to Bolt, but Roste's numbers rarely if ever look like 8-27 for 76 Yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs). Not only can anything happen when Rockin Roste is on the field, but the young man makes everyone better around him. To Ice, there sits the difference between a team that can defeat a very good Johnnies team one week and lose to a now seemingly high ceiling Platteville team who was also playing with their backup QB (If the Bear's ****ty memory is working) another.

Does Ice think with Roste that the Royals can win it all? No, probably not. Yet to infer that this team functions on a similar level when he is not grabbing the center's ass on each play, is simply erroneous at best.

Add Joey Kidder (Soph, 6-3, 210) at Wide Receiver and Nate Farm (Soph, 6-1, 215, First Team, All American, DIII last year as a freshman) at Free Safety to "Rockin Roste" and BU has at least three standouts who "propel the team to meet it's true potential"

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: BU5758 on October 24, 2022, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: Ice Bear on October 24, 2022, 10:51:33 AM
Ice still admittedly has a lot to learn about MIAC football and this will be true for many years to come. Ice says, after saying that, he believes firmly after watching Bethel play a bunch this season that this team, while certainly loaded with talent on both sides of ball, is a very, very different team with and without Rockin Roste. Ice says some teams just are that way. They may have a plethora of playmakers and talent, but it's one player, sometimes two (maybe), that propel the team to meet it's true potential. Roste is one.

If you watched the UWP/Bethel game the Royals were simply a different offensive team (and believe Ice he means this with no disrespect to Bolt, but Roste's numbers rarely if ever look like 8-27 for 76 Yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs). Not only can anything happen when Rockin Roste is on the field, but the young man makes everyone better around him. To Ice, there sits the difference between a team that can defeat a very good Johnnies team one week and lose to a now seemingly high ceiling Platteville team who was also playing with their backup QB (If the Bear's ****ty memory is working) another.

Does Ice think with Roste that the Royals can win it all? No, probably not. Yet to infer that this team functions on a similar level when he is not grabbing the center's ass on each play, is simply erroneous at best.

Add Joey Kidder (Soph, 6-3, 210) at Wide Receiver and Nate Farm (Soph, 6-1, 215, First Team, All American, DIII last year as a freshman) at Free Safety to "Rockin Roste" and BU has at least three standouts who "propel the team to meet it's true potential"

It will be interesting to see how many of the players (not just at BU but all across sports) like Kidder who are technically Sophomores athletically, but juniors academically, return for the extra year that Covid granted...

hazzben

I'd add Micah Niewald to that list as well. The issue with Kidder and Niewald, to Ice Bear's point, is that someone has to throw them the ball. When Roste is healthy and a threat to run, it also allows Bethel to go empty and still have a legit running game. That's a matchup problem for the D.

Niewald's emergence with Kidder makes it much harder to simple double the #1 option. They are deep at WR. By season's end SJU and Bethel will both have evolved a fair amount from their early season meeting. IMO Bethel needs to prove it can stop the run against a really good rushing team. SJU needs to prove it can hold up against an elite passing team. Neither can be lacking in those departments and make a deep run.




Robert Zimmerman

Very happy with how things went on Saturday, a gorgeous fall afternoon and SJU won. The halftime adjustments worked for the most part and other than a mistake fielding a punt, the defense played much better in the 2nd half. GAC is good, but too many mistakes on Saturday.

I know I am going to sound like a crotchety old curmudgeon, but the music at Clemens is out of control (and I love music!). It's like the person playing the music has no communication with the person who is making announcements about the game. I actually want to hear the ref explain what the penalty is and SJU is blaring music while the ref is talking. The PA guy is trying to announce who made the tackle and it gets drown out by the music. I don't mind hype music at all, but can we only play it during timeouts, quarter breaks, and after touchdowns? Are we trying to play music when the opposition is on offense to make it more difficult for them to communicate, like home field advantage crowd noise? Is this a strategy? If so, yuck. With all the up-tempo offense now, it just looks/sounds stupid. It is also really loud if you are sitting on the South end, makes it tough to even talk to the person next to you. End of crotchety old curmudgeon rant.

SagatagSam

Quote from: Robert Zimmerman on October 24, 2022, 05:51:33 PM
Very happy with how things went on Saturday, a gorgeous fall afternoon and SJU won. The halftime adjustments worked for the most part and other than a mistake fielding a punt, the defense played much better in the 2nd half. GAC is good, but too many mistakes on Saturday.

I know I am going to sound like a crotchety old curmudgeon, but the music at Clemens is out of control (and I love music!). It's like the person playing the music has no communication with the person who is making announcements about the game. I actually want to hear the ref explain what the penalty is and SJU is blaring music while the ref is talking. The PA guy is trying to announce who made the tackle and it gets drown out by the music. I don't mind hype music at all, but can we only play it during timeouts, quarter breaks, and after touchdowns? Are we trying to play music when the opposition is on offense to make it more difficult for them to communicate, like home field advantage crowd noise? Is this a strategy? If so, yuck. With all the up-tempo offense now, it just looks/sounds stupid. It is also really loud if you are sitting on the South end, makes it tough to even talk to the person next to you. End of crotchety old curmudgeon rant.

Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

hazzben

Quote from: Robert Zimmerman on October 24, 2022, 05:51:33 PM
Very happy with how things went on Saturday, a gorgeous fall afternoon and SJU won. The halftime adjustments worked for the most part and other than a mistake fielding a punt, the defense played much better in the 2nd half. GAC is good, but too many mistakes on Saturday.

I know I am going to sound like a crotchety old curmudgeon, but the music at Clemens is out of control (and I love music!). It's like the person playing the music has no communication with the person who is making  announcements about the game. I actually want to hear the ref explain what the penalty is and SJU is blaring music while the ref is talking. The PA guy is trying to announce who made the tackle and it gets drown out by the music. I don't mind hype music at all, but can we only play it during timeouts, quarter breaks, and after touchdowns? Are we trying to play music when the opposition is on offense to make it more difficult for them to communicate, like home field advantage crowd noise? Is this a strategy? If so, yuck. With all the up-tempo offense now, it just looks/sounds stupid. It is also really loud if you are sitting on the South end, makes it tough to even talk to the person next to you. End of crotchety old curmudgeon rant.

The natural bowl now has to pump in noise to maintain a home field advantage? Oh how the mighty have fallen ;-)

AO

Quote from: Robert Zimmerman on October 24, 2022, 05:51:33 PM
Very happy with how things went on Saturday, a gorgeous fall afternoon and SJU won. The halftime adjustments worked for the most part and other than a mistake fielding a punt, the defense played much better in the 2nd half. GAC is good, but too many mistakes on Saturday.

I know I am going to sound like a crotchety old curmudgeon, but the music at Clemens is out of control (and I love music!). It's like the person playing the music has no communication with the person who is making announcements about the game. I actually want to hear the ref explain what the penalty is and SJU is blaring music while the ref is talking. The PA guy is trying to announce who made the tackle and it gets drown out by the music. I don't mind hype music at all, but can we only play it during timeouts, quarter breaks, and after touchdowns? Are we trying to play music when the opposition is on offense to make it more difficult for them to communicate, like home field advantage crowd noise? Is this a strategy? If so, yuck. With all the up-tempo offense now, it just looks/sounds stupid. It is also really loud if you are sitting on the South end, makes it tough to even talk to the person next to you. End of crotchety old curmudgeon rant.
Since I run the PA and the music at Northwestern, I guess I get to decide when I want to talk over the music.  Definitely no music when the ref is talking.  I try to pick my spots with the 3rd down/4th down music, maybe 6 or 7 times a game in a close game or less in a blowout.  If the other team runs uptempo I'm waiting for an incomplete pass or a sack that makes them take a little more time leading into 3rd down.  Also, it is surprising how many fields don't have a balanced sound system that sounds more or less the same volume regardless of where you are.  Many places are just putting the speakers in one spot and playing it loud enough so it can be heard across the field.