FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[hazzben]

Here's my proposal:

Conferences with eight or more members get an automatic bid (Pool A).
Under the current arrangement there would be 18 Pool A bids.

Conferences with seven or fewer members would be placed in Pool B. There are currently nine conferences that fall into the Pool B category. The top 6 conference champions from Pool B as determined by the committee get a bid to the Tournament.

The remaining at-large bids (Pool C) would be determined by the committee consistent with the current practice.

So, under my proposal there would be:
18 conferences with Pool A automatic bids
6 Pool B bids selected from nine conference champions, and
8 At-large Pool C bids.

Note: I'm somewhat flexible on the size of Pool B and would be open to debate on that point. Could it be seven bids? Sure. I just think you would want to cap Pool B bids around 75% of the number of Pool B conferences.

Quit making so much sense.

[Texas Ole]

Here's my proposal:

Conferences with eight or more members get an automatic bid (Pool A).
Under the current arrangement there would be 18 Pool A bids.

Conferences with seven or fewer members would be placed in Pool B. There are currently nine conferences that fall into the Pool B category. The top 6 conference champions from Pool B as determined by the committee get a bid to the Tournament.

The remaining at-large bids (Pool C) would be determined by the committee consistent with the current practice.

So, under my proposal there would be:
18 conferences with Pool A automatic bids
6 Pool B bids selected from nine conference champions, and
8 At-large Pool C bids.

Note: I'm somewhat flexible on the size of Pool B and would be open to debate on that point. Could it be seven bids? Sure. I just think you would want to cap Pool B bids around 75% of the number of Pool B conferences.

I think we should just bring the BCS back for D3 only.  I know there are some great teams that don't win their respective conferences that might not get a shot at the playoff, but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.  I moved away a several years ago, and I miss going to games and seeing friends.  Once football was done it was time to move to hockey and basketball.

[OldAuggie]

Last night; Augsburg hockey, #1 Adrian in The Ed against #4 Augsburg. This video is a short-handed goal early in the game. Augsburg won the shootout in a 2-2 overtime game. An example of what to expect when the Augsburg student section brings their A-game to the Ed for a D3 hockey game.
click ---> https://t.co/MJcC9mrhTh

[DuffMan]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

[SagatagSam]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

Duff from the top rope!

[SagatagSam]

I know there are some great teams that don't win their respective conferences that might not get a shot at the playoff, but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC. 

Liking the conference championship and liking the national tournament are not mutually exclusive things. My proposed Pool B structure doesn't take away someone's conference championship. Galludet or Castleton could still win the ECFC but not get a bid to the national tournament and they would still be ECFC champions and can celebrate that.

Pool B would also incentivize teams from the smaller conferences to schedule some tougher non-conference games to beef up their resume if they want to make the national tournament a priority in addition to winning the conference.

[MIAC23]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

Thank you!

[Ice Bear]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

Duff from the top rope!

Ice Bear says two solid ****ing posts here. Ice loves the point and the visual to bring that **** home. +k to both Duff and Sagatag. Ice says great way to start a ****ing Friday!

[GoldandBlueBU]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

My sentiments exactly.  Just because the Oles have no current hope of competing on the national level does not mean that other teams have to settle to that level.

[SagatagSam]

What's up for grabs this weekend:

Divisional Championships! You could also call this MIAC Semifinal Weekend.

The winner of Carleton-SJU will find themselves in the MIAC Championship Game as champions of the Northwoods Division. Same thing goes for Bethel-Augsburg in the Skyline Division.

A Carleton loss plus a Gustavus win puts Gustavus and Carleton in a tie for second place in the Northwoods. Gustavus would play in the second place game by virtue of the head-to-head tiebreaker and would play against the loser of Bethel-Augsburg.

Pride alone is one the line in the Concordia-Hamline game. Concordia is firmly locked into third place in the Skyline Division, and a win for Hamline won't lift them out of the division cellar.

A win by St. Olaf over Gustavus would cause a tie for third and would catapult the Oles into the third place game by virtue of the head-to-head tiebreaker. A loss leaves the Oles in fourth.

St. Scholastica (5th Place) and Macalester (4th Place) can do nothing to improve their standing. Scholastica will play Hamline in the crossover week.

So, it looks like the most likely Crossover week pairings will be:

Championship: Bethel at Saint John's (2021 Championship Rematch)
Second Place: Augsburg at Gustavus
Third Place: Concordia at Carleton
Fourth Place: Macalester at St. Olaf
Fifth Place: Hamline at St. Scholastica (already locked in)

[TheChucker]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

On that note, interesting how there's some talk over on the ASC board how UMHB, and Hardin Simmons to a lesser extent, might be effectively getting "St. Thomased" with teams leaving for the SCAC.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=3803.24375

[SagatagSam]

Championship: Bethel at Saint John's (2021 Championship Rematch)
Second Place: Augsburg at Gustavus
Third Place: Concordia at Carleton
Fourth Place: Macalester at St. Olaf
Fifth Place: Hamline at St. Scholastica (already locked in)

Now after the fact I notice that my descriptors are misleading. They should be as follows:

Championship: Bethel at Saint John's
Third Place Game: Augsburg at Gustavus
Fifth Place Game: Concordia at Carleton
Seventh Place Game: Macalester at St. Olaf
Ninth Place Game: Hamline at St. Scholastica

[Texas Ole]

...but I am a fan of the conference championships over national for football.  I think several in the MIAC are overly concerned about making sure 2 teams from the conference get in the playoff rather than just enjoying the MIAC.

And that is the difference between crappy teams that vote other teams out of conferences and teams with legit aspirations of making noise on the national scene.

My sentiments exactly.  Just because the Oles have no current hope of competing on the national level does not mean that other teams have to settle to that level.

Just wait until Anderson votes to get some of you others out of the conference.  This needs to be a conference only for people who read good and stuff.  Forget those stupid athletics!

[repete]

Gotta wonder what payoff the Ole hoops team got for being preseason fodder for the Gophers.

The funny thing is the Gophers are so bad it was actually close for much of the game, although it's doubtful the Oles expected that when they signed the contract.

[Ice Bear]

Ice Bear is looking for Bethel to start rolling today with all the focus on taking care of the Auggies with authority and building momentum steamrolling forward into next week. Ice feels often games before championships are very important. Teams that tend to limp through them in a sloppy manner tend to carry that lack of focus and sharp play into the following week. Let's go Royals!