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art76

Quote from: Bluenote on November 07, 2022, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 06, 2022, 10:20:48 PM
So's LINFIELD, Ice Bear. At least it once was as Bluenote will attest.

Linfield was (not sure about present) affiliated with the American Baptist Church (moderate) ... not sure about Bethel but I would suspect they are associated with the Southern Baptists (conservative like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart) ???

Nope - Affiliated with what is now called Converge Worldwide, used to be called The Baptist General Conference. 
You don't have a soul. You are a soul.
You have a body. - C.S. Lewis

hazzben

Quote from: Bluenote on November 07, 2022, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 06, 2022, 10:20:48 PM
So's LINFIELD, Ice Bear. At least it once was as Bluenote will attest.

Linfield was (not sure about present) affiliated with the American Baptist Church (moderate) ... not sure about Bethel but I would suspect they are associated with the Southern Baptists (conservative like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart) ???

Swing and a miss. Bethel is a part of the Baptist General Conference (Swedish immigrants), now called Converge Worldwide.

Also neither Jim Bakker (Assemblies of God, then non-denom charismatic) or Jimmy Swaggart (pentecostal) are a part of the Southern Baptist Convention.

Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 11:32:50 AM
Lot's of room for improvement!  Maybe this time, the refs will flag BU's o-line for tackling our d-line.

lol, spoken like a Dlineman  ;)

Quote from: SJU13 on November 07, 2022, 11:46:04 AM
I assume he plays, but it is quite the dilemma for BU. Risk reward of MIAC championship / AQ with potentially making it worse to start the playoffs and multiple what-if scenarios in between.

I don't think the national Pool C scenario's allow for any assumptions about making the playoffs as a 2 loss team, for either Bethel or SJU.

OldAuggie

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 07, 2022, 09:07:17 AM
Caught only about 1/2 of the BU game - did not see the Roste injury...wonder if it was a re-aggravation of the same elbow injury or something new?

Augsburg played tough and is quite Sophomore heavy.  They could be a solid team in the coming couple of years if they keep building on that. Curious from OA's perspective if they've come a long way since the SJU drubbing, or did they just really show up well vs BU?
Sophomore heavy is right. My opinion is these sophomores are gaining experience since the SJU game and growing up during the season. I was going to include the sophomore class in a previous post but I assumed all the sharp posters on this board would figure it out so I kept it quiet!

To take this deeper, the coaching staff is legitimate and they know how to win, combined with better recruiting and a winning attitude from the coaching staff we can see results right now, on the field. Derrin Lamker is a winner and he brought with him other winners for his coaching staff including his head coach from 1997 Jack Osberg, who won the MIAC that year. I played for Jack back in the day, long before 1997 and I can verify the man can pull the potential out of his players as does Lamker.

I believe it all starts with another coach from those days and the current AD Jeff Swenson. He has pushed several winter sports to be played at a high level and I think football is next in his plans to build up a  program. He hired Derrin Lamker, a brilliant move, who is responsible for recruiting at a higher level. Look for Augsburg football to improve each year. Proof of this to me is the increased depth; both Kahin brothers, twins from Edina, yes sophomores, and they are studs.  Now, unfortunately, each one is out for the season since a few weeks ago. Clough and Jack just plug in two more young players on defense and with growing pains for sure, here we are.
MIAC champions 1928, 1997

DuffMan


A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

OldAuggie

Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 01:32:29 PM
Augsburg--I'll believe it when I see it.  ::)
I think Swenson likes to use the following saying for his wrestling program: "A 1% improvement each day".

It might take a while with football, considering the starting point handed over to Lamker!
MIAC champions 1928, 1997

DuffMan

It pains me to say that we have brought in an Auggie this year as an assistant with our youth wrestling club.  :o

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

DuffMan

So, here is something that has been bugging me from the Johnnie/Carlie game.  The Johnnies had a pick-6 called back on a roughing the passer penalty.  I'm not going to debate the penalty, but roughing the passer generally translates to hitting a QB after the pass is thrown, in which case, why does the penalty negate the interception if it occured after the QB released the ball?

I assume the referees correctly assessed the penalty, but it doesn't make much sense to me (as a d-lineman  :D).

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

TheChucker

Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 01:58:24 PM
So, here is something that has been bugging me from the Johnnie/Carlie game.  The Johnnies had a pick-6 called back on a roughing the passer penalty.  I'm not going to debate the penalty, but roughing the passer generally translates to hitting a QB after the pass is thrown, in which case, why does the penalty negate the interception if it occured after the QB released the ball?

I assume the referees correctly assessed the penalty, but it doesn't make much sense to me (as a d-lineman  :D).

It's my understanding it's based on whether possession has changed when the infraction occurred. If the roughing occurred while the ball was in the air before possession changed, then it's 15 yards for the offense. If the QB got lit up (for example) with a nasty blind side block during the interception return, the defense would still possess the ball but get the penalty during the return.

DuffMan

Yeah, that seems to be how it was ruled.  I don't have to agree with it.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

hazzben

Quote from: OldAuggie on November 07, 2022, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 01:32:29 PM
Augsburg--I'll believe it when I see it.  ::)
I think Swenson likes to use the following saying for his wrestling program: "A 1% improvement each day".

It might take a while with football, considering the starting point handed over to Lamker!

Sounds like he's read Atomic Habits

SagatagSam

Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 02:49:15 PM
Yeah, that seems to be how it was ruled.  I don't have to agree with it.

I know I mentioned this on Saturday on the in-game updates board, but VOJ--who is a real homer's homer of a broadcaster--said that the flag was warranted after reviewing the replay. That surprised me when I saw Duff's reaction because if anyone is going to unapologetically look at the play through Johnnie-colored glasses, it's going to be VOJ.

Since the archived footage is not available, I guess we will not be able to re-hash everything here like we would a punt returner advancing the ball after a fair catch signal.
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.

DuffMan

Factor in that I was a d-lineman.  You always want to tee off on a QB.  :D

I don't know.  Regardless of whether it was a valid roughing call or not, I still don't like how the penalty is applied in that situation.  It obviously didn't affect the game at all.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

faunch

Quote from: SagatagSam on November 07, 2022, 04:05:21 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 02:49:15 PM
Yeah, that seems to be how it was ruled.  I don't have to agree with it.

I know I mentioned this on Saturday on the in-game updates board, but VOJ--who is a real homer's homer of a broadcaster--said that the flag was warranted after reviewing the replay. That surprised me when I saw Duff's reaction because if anyone is going to unapologetically look at the play through Johnnie-colored glasses, it's going to be VOJ.

Since the archived footage is not available, I guess we will not be able to re-hash everything here like we would a punt returner advancing the ball after a fair catch signal.
I saw the replay on the video board at the stadium. Woz hit him late.


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

hazzben

Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 04:29:58 PM
Factor in that I was a d-lineman.  You always want to tee off on a QB.  :D

I don't know.  Regardless of whether it was a valid roughing call or not, I still don't like how the penalty is applied in that situation.  It obviously didn't affect the game at all.

Did RoyalsFan highjack Duff's account  ;D ;) 8-)

SagatagSam

Quote from: hazzben on November 07, 2022, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 07, 2022, 04:29:58 PM
Factor in that I was a d-lineman.  You always want to tee off on a QB.  :D

I don't know.  Regardless of whether it was a valid roughing call or not, I still don't like how the penalty is applied in that situation.  It obviously didn't affect the game at all.

Did RoyalsFan highjack Duff's account  ;D ;) 8-)

*whispers*  Let's see if he says anything about a Corvette.

Hey, Duff, whatcha driving these days for your Sunday drives?
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright.