FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Redtooth]

One of the risks of moving to the "Divisional" pods in the MIAC is that the "Conference" games become irrelevant....as long as you are 4-0 in Division (Northwoods or Skyline) you play week 10 for a auto bid to the playoffs....that would be no different than the NFC North being decided solely on games against teams in the division or the American League Central decided only games between teams in the Central.  I hope the MIAC acknowledges the weakness of this format and makes a very simple modification.....play everyone, eliminate the "Championship" week and "Divisional" pods, best conference record takes the auto bid.  Funny how that worked for all the years before the weaker part of the conference eliminated UST and brought back Mac and brought in St. Scholastica.

It is quite possible that a one loss in "Conference" team will be playing the 3/4 game during "Championship" week while a multi loss "Conference" team plays for the auto bid.

[faunch]

Well, I woke up late and had to take a quick shower to make Mass.  Missed the game.  Didn't miss much.  Well, this season is a drag.

We are the worst we've been in 10 years

[faunch]

One of the risks of moving to the "Divisional" pods in the MIAC is that the "Conference" games become irrelevant....as long as you are 4-0 in Division (Northwoods or Skyline) you play week 10 for a auto bid to the playoffs....that would be no different than the NFC North being decided solely on games against teams in the division or the American League Central decided only games between teams in the Central.  I hope the MIAC acknowledges the weakness of this format and makes a very simple modification.....play everyone, eliminate the "Championship" week and "Divisional" pods, best conference record takes the auto bid.  Funny how that worked for all the years before the weaker part of the conference eliminated UST and brought back Mac and brought in St. Scholastica.

It is quite possible that a one loss in "Conference" team will be playing the 3/4 game during "Championship" week while a multi loss "Conference" team plays for the auto bid.

Agreed....i don't like this format either...but a good SJU defense would not have given up 38 today.
And the Johnnies have had a home seed for the playoffs the last two years and pissed their pants in the second round. We are moving backward. Our o line and d line suck...i mean suck...no push and no dominance....we have not been good on the line of scrimmage.

That said it's a dumb format.

[Redtooth]

One of the risks of moving to the "Divisional" pods in the MIAC is that the "Conference" games become irrelevant....as long as you are 4-0 in Division (Northwoods or Skyline) you play week 10 for a auto bid to the playoffs....that would be no different than the NFC North being decided solely on games against teams in the division or the American League Central decided only games between teams in the Central.  I hope the MIAC acknowledges the weakness of this format and makes a very simple modification.....play everyone, eliminate the "Championship" week and "Divisional" pods, best conference record takes the auto bid.  Funny how that worked for all the years before the weaker part of the conference eliminated UST and brought back Mac and brought in St. Scholastica.

It is quite possible that a one loss in "Conference" team will be playing the 3/4 game during "Championship" week while a multi loss "Conference" team plays for the auto bid.

Agreed....i don't like this format either...but a good SJU defense would not have given up 38 today.
That said it's a dumb format.

Agree 100% about the defense today and their inability to make plays when needed.....I would also add the incredibly poor play by the o-line when it mattered....the multiple missed blocks on the 4th and 1 inside the 10 in the 3rdQ, the false start penalty on 1st and Goal from the 7 with the game on the line. 

My format criticism isn't specific to SJU.....the Skyline could be a mess.

[Pat Coleman]

One of the risks of moving to the "Divisional" pods in the MIAC is that the "Conference" games become irrelevant....as long as you are 4-0 in Division (Northwoods or Skyline) you play week 10 for a auto bid to the playoffs....that would be no different than the NFC North being decided solely on games against teams in the division or the American League Central decided only games between teams in the Central.  I hope the MIAC acknowledges the weakness of this format and makes a very simple modification.....play everyone, eliminate the "Championship" week and "Divisional" pods, best conference record takes the auto bid.  Funny how that worked for all the years before the weaker part of the conference eliminated UST and brought back Mac and brought in St. Scholastica.

It is quite possible that a one loss in "Conference" team will be playing the 3/4 game during "Championship" week while a multi loss "Conference" team plays for the auto bid.

Right, and you allude to it -- since you don't play everyone in the other division, the conference schedules are not even and using the conference record could create its own problems.

[faunch]

One of the risks of moving to the "Divisional" pods in the MIAC is that the "Conference" games become irrelevant....as long as you are 4-0 in Division (Northwoods or Skyline) you play week 10 for a auto bid to the playoffs....that would be no different than the NFC North being decided solely on games against teams in the division or the American League Central decided only games between teams in the Central.  I hope the MIAC acknowledges the weakness of this format and makes a very simple modification.....play everyone, eliminate the "Championship" week and "Divisional" pods, best conference record takes the auto bid.  Funny how that worked for all the years before the weaker part of the conference eliminated UST and brought back Mac and brought in St. Scholastica.

It is quite possible that a one loss in "Conference" team will be playing the 3/4 game during "Championship" week while a multi loss "Conference" team plays for the auto bid.

Agreed....i don't like this format either...but a good SJU defense would not have given up 38 today.
That said it's a dumb format.

Agree 100% about the defense today and their inability to make plays when needed.....I would also add the incredibly poor play by the o-line when it mattered....the multiple missed blocks on the 4th and 1 inside the 10 in the 3rdQ, the false start penalty on 1st and Goal from the 7 with the game on the line. 

My format criticism isn't specific to SJU.....the Skyline could be a mess.

Yes but this SJU team doesn't measure up to other playoff teams. Figure it out. We are so bad.

[BiggieSmalls]

I wonder if any teams with covid year players that were key contributors is playing a part across football? Did teams/coaches go all in on those Covid year players that they didn't develop younger non-Covid players as they typically would have? Obviously this isn't specific to MIAC only, just curious if some teams are more impacted than others.

[OzJohnnie]

And to help bring some levity to the boards... this classic.

Cash Call

[sfury]

Mentioned this to Rube, but Gustavus could make the playoffs at 6-4, right? Lose to the Oles. Beat Carleton. Assuming SJU wins out Gustives have the tiebreak for the division. Win the MIAC title game, playoff bid at 6-4. Would be pretty humorous.

I'm actually hoping to be home over Thanksgiving week and was hoping to make it to the the "traditional" SJU home playoff game that Saturday. Oops.

Now...if Bethel wins out, wins the MIAC title game. *Any* shot SJU makes it, being they'd have a win over Trinity and a win over the MIAC champ? 1 percent?

Or! What if its' 3-way tie for division? Carleton beats Gusties. SJU, Carleton, Gustavus all tie with 1 loss? Someone who didn't flunk physics in community college can decipher this.

https://miacathletics.com/sports/2022/5/23/FB_0523221712.aspx

[OzJohnnie]

I'm actually hoping to be home over Thanksgiving week

This made me smile.  How long have you lived in NYC?  I have lived in Australia for 30 years and yet "home" is still Grand Rapids.

My wife has observed that almost everyone in America is from somewhere else.  She was always amazed that "home" is where a person grew up and that almost everyone we knew didn't live at "home".  A lot of people will move "home", though, as they get older.

[sjusection105]

This squad has talent but that talent is undisciplined.Who gets the praise when a team is disciplined in the execution of the game plan? Who should get the blame when talent is squandered and the game plan is not executed?
Not making the playoffs (unless you count "everyone gets a trophy MIAC Championship week") and sitting at home eating humble pie for Thanksgiving may be exactly what this squad and staff needs.

Lock in on the Transfer Portal and fine tune that NIL program because this is the new era of college athletics. If you're going to have undisciplined players and coaches dancing on the sideline with those players after they make a tackle or make a first down then you might as well go all in with custom turnover chains with a SJU logo..... Whatever happened to "act like you've been there"? If the players being recruited have never made a tackle, an interception, a first down or scored a touchdown to the point of excessive celebration flags then perhaps the wrong players are being recruited.

Perhaps the remaining games should be played with members of the squad who at least act like they've been there before. There will be no national playoff run so get game film on the 160 kids who normally don't see game action. Who knows, there might be some future All-Americans who just need a chance.

[WashedUp]

Or! What if its' 3-way tie for division? Carleton beats Gusties. SJU, Carleton, Gustavus all tie with 1 loss? Someone who didn't flunk physics in community college can decipher this.

https://miacathletics.com/sports/2022/5/23/FB_0523221712.aspx

In a 3-way tie SJU would get the division bid. Gustavus would be eliminated on conference record leaving Carleton and SJU. Since the Johnnies won the head-to-head they'd get the bid.

[sju56321]

This team reminds me of the 1997 team-not a good team-hail Mary by BSU and gustavus beat us that year too. But John turn the ship quickly -Duffman was on the horizon as was sharkman. I think this team and coaching staff need a ton more work than John needed-but hopefully they will look at players the next 3 weeks and figure out this mess.

[faunch]

I really hope GAC makes the playoffs with a 6-4 record. It will solidify the mediocrity that the presidents of the league have aspired to create. Imagine if a biology student with 60% in a class went up to the professor and asked for an A? Now that would be silly wouldn't it.

[sjusection105]

Or! What if its' 3-way tie for division? Carleton beats Gusties. SJU, Carleton, Gustavus all tie with 1 loss? Someone who didn't flunk physics in community college can decipher this.

https://miacathletics.com/sports/2022/5/23/FB_0523221712.aspx

In a 3-way tie SJU would get the division bid. Gustavus would be eliminated on conference record leaving Carleton and SJU. Since the Johnnies won the head-to-head they'd get the bid.

This would be a pathetic way for SJU to back in to the MIAC Championship game.......