FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sjusection105]

Very cool Art!

[hazzben]

One down, one to go. Ben and I were on WCCO this morning - take a look here: https://vimeo.com/user14179445/review/982700129/cddaa5f44f

Tomorrow morning Alec and Nathan are on KSTP. Once I have a link for that I'll share it also.

Art, that is just so stinking cool! It's been fun to track the journey of the team and your involvement on here. And to see the progression of the rockets from year 1 to now. In all seriousness, you should tweet the link over to Elon Musk and get these guys working for Space X!

[art76]

Glad you all are enjoying this! Here's the link to this morning's interview on KSTP: https://vimeo.com/user14179445/review/983256084/c63b5b7cc0

[OzJohnnie]

Nice vids, Art.

And the Hawks are back winning again, beating Fremantle to keep the post season hopes alive.  Six games remain and the Hawks will need to win five to have a chance at finals, or win all six to guarantee a spot.

https://youtu.be/1Ca8g_x0HTk?si=5BJSRbSC2Xcy_JNY

[WashedUp]

Carleton is scheduled to play Whitewater as part of their non-conference schedule in 2025 and 2026. Seems like Coach Journell is shooting higher than 7-3 and middle of the MIAC with that move.

[BiggieSmalls]

Carleton is scheduled to play Whitewater as part of their non-conference schedule in 2025 and 2026. Seems like Coach Journell is shooting higher than 7-3 and middle of the MIAC with that move.

Big fan of not taking the easy way when it comes to scheduling. However, that seems like a Herculean task for Carleton. If get UWW to come visit then maybe the gate revenue is the only upside?

[faunch]

Carleton is scheduled to play Whitewater as part of their non-conference schedule in 2025 and 2026. Seems like Coach Journell is shooting higher than 7-3 and middle of the MIAC with that move.

Big fan of not taking the easy way when it comes to scheduling. However, that seems like a Herculean task for Carleton. If get UWW to come visit then maybe the gate revenue is the only upside?
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Carleton is scheduled to play Whitewater as part of their non-conference schedule in 2025 and 2026. Seems like Coach Journell is shooting higher than 7-3 and middle of the MIAC with that move.

Big fan of not taking the easy way when it comes to scheduling. However, that seems like a Herculean task for Carleton. If get UWW to come visit then maybe the gate revenue is the only upside?

Is Carleton charging admission for games now? Last time I attended a game there it was free.

[DuffMan]

Big fan of not taking the easy way when it comes to scheduling. However, that seems like a Herculean task for Carleton.

I have to agree here.  While I think Carleton has the ability to be good, with their admission standards, size, etc, I think being competitive with a juggernaut like UWW will never be in the cards.  It may be good as a measuring stick, but that's about it.

[WashedUp]

Carleton is scheduled to play Whitewater as part of their non-conference schedule in 2025 and 2026. Seems like Coach Journell is shooting higher than 7-3 and middle of the MIAC with that move.

Big fan of not taking the easy way when it comes to scheduling. However, that seems like a Herculean task for Carleton. If get UWW to come visit then maybe the gate revenue is the only upside?

Is Carleton charging admission for games now? Last time I attended a game there it was free.

I haven't been back in a couple years, but I'd be very surprised if they charged anything.  It was unclear if it was a home and home, or if both games are at Perkins.  I'm hoping we travel there both years, UWW is pretty close to where I am now and I've been meaning to get to a game there anyway.

[SagatagSam]

Big fan of not taking the easy way when it comes to scheduling. However, that seems like a Herculean task for Carleton.

I have to agree here.  While I think Carleton has the ability to be good, with their admission standards, size, etc, I think being competitive with a juggernaut like UWW will never be in the cards.  It may be good as a measuring stick, but that's about it.

If Carleton has any hopes of rising to a level that's anywhere close to that of UWW, they are going to have to pour tons of money and support into that program over a period of decades. There are a few schools that have disproven that ultra-high admission standards are a bar to athletic success. Middlebury in Vermont is a good example with how their hockey program had been a juggernaut in 1990s to 2010 (going 8-1 in national championship games during that period, including 5 in a row from 1995-1999) despite having insane admissions standards.

I think if Carleton put sustained effort in long-term, they could certainly rise to the level of a Gustavus where they are right on the edge of the national conversation, but still on the outside looking in. Perhaps things change slightly with a 40-team playoff field?

[OzJohnnie]

UWW may have approached CAR, you know. Maybe the Warhawks want to decrease the heat of their early season matchups a little and thought the interstate travel expenses of recent year's early season blockbusters were better spent encouraging CAR to take the matchup.

I have no idea if that's the deal, I'm just pointing out there is more than one reasonable way this could have happened. 

[BiggieSmalls]

UWW may have approached CAR, you know. Maybe the Warhawks want to decrease the heat of their early season matchups a little and thought the interstate travel expenses of recent year's early season blockbusters were better spent encouraging CAR to take the matchup.

I have no idea if that's the deal, I'm just pointing out there is more than one reasonable way this could have happened. 

This is a fair point. I guess I'm wondering what's in it for Carleton, whether it's two games at UWW, home and home, etc. I struggle to see where they get anything out of a series like this. Are they looking like they may have another team that could make a bit of a run so this would be a measuring stick series?

[carletonknights]

UWW may have approached CAR, you know. Maybe the Warhawks want to decrease the heat of their early season matchups a little and thought the interstate travel expenses of recent year's early season blockbusters were better spent encouraging CAR to take the matchup.

I have no idea if that's the deal, I'm just pointing out there is more than one reasonable way this could have happened. 

This is a fair point. I guess I'm wondering what's in it for Carleton, whether it's two games at UWW, home and home, etc. I struggle to see where they get anything out of a series like this. Are they looking like they may have another team that could make a bit of a run so this would be a measuring stick series?

I think it's just Journell's mindset. He truly believes he can turn Carleton into a national competitor and so he wants to play really good teams. Carleton doesn't charge admission for any regular season sporting event, and I doubt a blowout on the record would be appealing to recruits, so the only thing they gain from this is the chance to compete against a really good team.

[GoldandBlueBU]

UWW may have approached CAR, you know. Maybe the Warhawks want to decrease the heat of their early season matchups a little and thought the interstate travel expenses of recent year's early season blockbusters were better spent encouraging CAR to take the matchup.

I have no idea if that's the deal, I'm just pointing out there is more than one reasonable way this could have happened. 

This is a fair point. I guess I'm wondering what's in it for Carleton, whether it's two games at UWW, home and home, etc. I struggle to see where they get anything out of a series like this. Are they looking like they may have another team that could make a bit of a run so this would be a measuring stick series?

I think it's just Journell's mindset. He truly believes he can turn Carleton into a national competitor and so he wants to play really good teams. Carleton doesn't charge admission for any regular season sporting event, and I doubt a blowout on the record would be appealing to recruits, so the only thing they gain from this is the chance to compete against a really good team.

I sort of get that, but when you're already getting blown out by the two powers within your own conference (63-7 vs SJU last year, 40-0 vs a not terribly special BU team last year, and lost by 18 to  what was in reality the third best MIAC team - Gustavus), it doesn't feel like UWW is the next right thing?

Probably a better target to rise to being a true contender within the MIAC before setting your sights on the national level by taking on one of the very best?

I really hope success for them - a better MIAC is a better outcome for all MIAC teams, but if he's really thinking that "we need to see how we stack up against UWW so we can improve the program" - I think he's skipping several in-between steps.

[AO]

Whitewater had to put NAIA Roosevelt on the schedule this year to find their 10th game, good for Carleton for being willing to play them.