FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BDB]

OK, that's better.

[AO]

Okay, folks, I haven't got to read much since yesterday, so sorry if it's been brought up, but here's how things work at SJU.

Split the field.  One half, offense works and the other, defense works.  Generally, you've got first string, second string, and a few other guys working out against a scout team.  There are generally 2 or 3 complete scout teams that rotate running plays so that starters are seeing a lot of plays in a short period of time.  Then, usually there is a session of scout O versus scout D just to give the younger guys a chance to run and learn SJU's offense and defense.  Granted, there probably are a few kids out there that really don't do much, but it's a small minority.

So, way more than 50 guys are invovled.  This may not be the way you guys are used to doing things, but then again, how many of you out there are the winningest college football coach.  Yeah, I thought so  .

The math still isn't there for 200.  If there's 50 guys on 1st and 2nd string, 2 or 3 scout teams makes another 60 maybe so then are the other 90 guys in the spectrum doing their own thing?

tmerton:  Embrace the scrubbness, I'm sure a lot of Johnnie players have grown to like being scrubs and will tell you that's what their role is.   You'd have a lot of unhappy football players on your team if the majority of kids didn't understand the role of scrub.  With the amount of success saint john's has had with that large amount of players, there's got to be a lot of happy scrubs in collegeville.

[Freebird]

Like I said KR please re-read what you quoted and show me where I said people from my school commit vandalism.  I guess you have had a few to many Hamms tonight so maybe check in the morning.

Also you need about 50 total players on your team to field a scout team.  Something tells me the other 150 players aren't doing to much.  Sorry I know I stepping on your toes again...

Naturally since I went to SJU, I must be drunk each and every night. I'm sure you'll be shocked to know I haven't had a beer since Saturday. Yes, I'm going through withdrawl symptoms as we speak.


50 total players? Which part of your terminal colon did you pull this number out of?

Let's do some math;

Offense 11 starters + 4-5 guys who regularly rotate in on 4 wide or double TE plays and things like that = 16
Defense 11 starters +another 4-5 who come in for dime, goal-line and other packages=16
Kicker, long-snapper, and Punter= 3
Scout offense= 11 assuming no one ever gets injured
Scout Defense= 11 "                                                 "

That's at least 57 guys already who directly contribute to SJU's success before anyone gets injured or ever has to miss a practice due to a lab conflict, not to mention the guys who play special teams because you probably don't want your starting DT or QB or WR running down the field hell bent for high water on Kickoff team.

Also, the more guys you have competing for a spot the harder they all work to try to get it resulting in a beter product.

If having 50 players was the optimal number, don't you think Gags would have figured that out years ago? I guess his 3 National Championships, and countless MIAC titles are all despite his inability to have an effecient football team.

OK but do you think whether you have 100 or 200 players makes a major difference?

Also I will ask now for the THIRD time for you re-read what you quoted and show me where I said people from my school commit vandalism.  You probably won't address it because you are wrong but be more careful in your words next time.

Ok, can we drop this stuff and talk about this weekend's games a little bit?  Someone asked a few pages back about the Bethel/Carleton tilt, and I think SJU has a bit of a test this weekend as well, not to mention a likely good game between the Pipers and Gusties.  Any injury reports yet?  How is Porta's hand? 

In response to that BU/Carleton tilt, the key player is PORTA.  He will get the ball.  He is a good running back who follows his blockers (Wassink is a good one) well.  Wetzell has a strong arm who throws the ball on a rope, but the Royal offense tends to be run-first.

I can't speak much to the Royal defense other than they stop the run well. 

For Carleton, R.J. Jackson does it all for the Knights.  They've won pretty big thus far, and I'm interested to see how the Ramler-coached team does in its first real test, but I don't see the Carls putting up a huge fight to the Royals.

I spoke with Porta the other day and he is fine.  I really hoping to see a break out game from Wetzel.

It will be interesting to see how R.J. does against our run defense.  If memory serves me right we have been able to stop him pretty effectively.  He is a great player that would really benifit from a little bit more talent around him.

[sumander]

Much better effort the second time around BDB, Thanks!

Duff or JR, looking at the stats from the Auggie Tech game I noticed Michael Crees didn't play at QB. I thought, based on last year, He was the clear #2 QB. In the Auggie game, both a Jr Welsh and a Fr Hansel played. Any idea what happened to Crees?

[DuffMan]

Much better effort the second time around BDB, Thanks!

Duff or JR, looking at the stats from the Auggie Tech game I noticed Michael Crees didn't play at QB. I thought, based on last year, He was the clear #2 QB. In the Auggie game, both a Jr Welsh and a Fr Hansel played. Any idea what happened to Crees?

I wondered the same thing, Sumander.  Hansel looked good, too, though.

[57Johnnie]

sumander,
They announced that Crees had been sick all week. He felt a little better at game time but Jim G didn't think he was good enough to risk putting in. The punter also didn't get into the game. I suppose somebody will complain about that too.

[johnnie_esq]

Much better effort the second time around BDB, Thanks!

Duff or JR, looking at the stats from the Auggie Tech game I noticed Michael Crees didn't play at QB. I thought, based on last year, He was the clear #2 QB. In the Auggie game, both a Jr Welsh and a Fr Hansel played. Any idea what happened to Crees?

I wondered the same thing, Sumander.  Hansel looked good, too, though.

I thought I heard on the radio that he got the flu bug, and was not healthy.  I think he is still the number two.

[USTBench]

Much better effort the second time around BDB, Thanks!

Duff or JR, looking at the stats from the Auggie Tech game I noticed Michael Crees didn't play at QB. I thought, based on last year, He was the clear #2 QB. In the Auggie game, both a Jr Welsh and a Fr Hansel played. Any idea what happened to Crees?

I wondered the same thing, Sumander.  Hansel looked good, too, though.

That Hansel..he's so hot right now.

[johnnie_esq]

I'm still waiting for the gameday previews for the SJU/Concordia game.  Neither website has them up, though Concordia did just announce their Bethel game award winners.

No disrespect for these players, as I don't doubt their worthiness for their awards and the work they put in to receive them, but I just chuckled at the thought of giving 11 awards in a loss.

Edit: +K for the Zoolander quote by Bench.

[royalachilles]

KR, I don't know where you find the time to read all these posts, reply, and still have a life with the hours you work, and the times you seem to be posting.  However, it is important to note you have not drank this week, and that explains part of it.  I can just picture you with your Crackberry on a Private Staircase blasting AO or Scrubby, while some guy is crashing in room 233.  Now that I think about it I think it was just a flashback from my watching that show Greys Anatomy where the dude died and nobody noticed.  Is your guy with the new clock still among the living??  I will tell you, that is quite an accomplishment becoming a full fledge body doc, and I mean that.  Can you prescribe anything for me as I have a headache reading the last 6 or 7 pages of banter.  Nothing too strong, maybe some Vicodin or something???  

[johnniepress]

If you consider SJU's travel roster as the first team and majority of the second team, there are 70 players there. The third and fourth teams would then include a player to matchup against each player on the 1st/2nd teams, adding another 70 players. If you also include special teamers and various "scrubs", that would bring out total to around 165-170 that actively participate in practice (not including injured players). There are 184 players on the roster.

[sumander]

Thanks for the info guys.

Forecast for this area looks like rain chances starting tonight and continuing through Saturday night. Day time high on Saturday looks like mid 50's.

[57Johnnie]

I think Jim G's words were that Crees could play but they didn't want him throwing up on the field.
My comment about complaints  was to detractors like AO, scrubby et. al, and not the faithful.

[johnnie_esq]

Thanks for the info guys.

Forecast for this area looks like rain chances starting tonight and continuing through Saturday night. Day time high on Saturday looks like mid 50's.

Do I have to say it?

(The sun always shines on SJU football)

[sumander]

Do I have to say it?

(The sun always shines on SJU football)

I forgot johnnie-esq, my bad!