FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[realistic]

Wow, that's a little surprising about Morneau. Can't wait to read the New York papers tomorrow, see hwat the Jeterites have to say.

UUggghhhh.... I can tell you first hand that most of my office (in NY) is going nuts right now.  I HATE YANKEE FANS!!!!

[bennie]

BDB: Were you planning on sharing the scouting report with MIAC PP for Whitworth?  I see your Blue Devils played them into OT earlier in the season...

That was the game raiderguy came over for.

Been awhile, but I wasn't overimpressed with them. Nice QB, monster Tight End who was missing in the passing game until the tying drive in regulation. Whitworth was held scoreless by Stout until 3 seconds remained in the game. The Rats converted a couple 4th downs in that drive as well I believe.

The one thing that really impressed me was how the squad never quit and found a way to win 1500 miles from home. Hopefully the Johnnies get up early and keep the pedal to the metal on these guys.

Their quarterback is quite mobile, his completion stats for the Linfield game were 2 out of 10 passes completed. That probably was because of the weather. He is not afraid to run the ball and seemed to be quite successful at it. They have a tight end that is like 6'7" or 6'9", either way, he is huge. The Whitworth mother I was sitting by assured me that their punter and kicker were both good...she might be biased though! Their win over Linfield seemed to have more to do with there ability to capitalize on Linfield mistakes than their ability to dominate a game. The Johnnies will need to make sure that they hold on to the ball or Whitworth will make them pay...

[rockcat]

I need some help from all of you MIACers.  As we speak I'm in class with a Bethel alum and former football player.  We are arguing about what Bethel's place is in the conference.  I'm telling him they are no better than the third best program in the MIAC (behind St Johns and Concordia) and he is saying that they are in the top 2 (won't even admit St. Johns is #1).  Semi-objective input would be appreciated.

[TC]

A mix of current and historic, off the top of my head:

1. St. John's
2. Concordia
3. St. Thomas
4. Bethel
5. Gustavus
6. St. Olaf
7. Augsburg 
8. Carleton
9. Hamline

Just one opinion...

[Sabretooth Tiger]

I need some help from all of you MIACers.  As we speak I'm in class with a Bethel alum and former football player.  We are arguing about what Bethel's place is in the conference.  I'm telling him they are no better than the third best program in the MIAC (behind St Johns and Concordia) and he is saying that they are in the top 2 (won't even admit St. Johns is #1).  Semi-objective input would be appreciated.

Dude,

Pay attention to the lecture, bring Bethel boy to Barney's and we'll convince him that Bethel falls somewhere ahead of Redlands and behind Oxy . . .  

happy turkey day rc

tooth

[rockcat]

A mix of current and historic, off the top of my head:

1. St. John's
2. Concordia
3. St. Thomas
4. Bethel
5. Gustavus
6. St. Olaf
7. Augsburg 
8. Carleton
9. Hamline

Just one opinion...

I love it....he is fuming! 

Tooth, the lecture is gripping!

[57Johnnie]

I need some help from all of you MIACers.  As we speak I'm in class with a Bethel alum and former football player.  We are arguing about what Bethel's place is in the conference.  I'm telling him they are no better than the third best program in the MIAC (behind St Johns and Concordia) and he is saying that they are in the top 2 (won't even admit St. Johns is #1).  Semi-objective input would be appreciated.

Bethel is 3 - 25 against the Johnnies. Only Carleton has a worse record against St. John's

[sumander]

I need some help from all of you MIACers.  As we speak I'm in class with a Bethel alum and former football player.  We are arguing about what Bethel's place is in the conference.  I'm telling him they are no better than the third best program in the MIAC (behind St Johns and Concordia) and he is saying that they are in the top 2 (won't even admit St. Johns is #1).  Semi-objective input would be appreciated.

Start with league titles:

MIAC Titles Won or Shared (1920-2005)                               
School                          No.      Last Title
St. John's University        28 29       2005    2006
Gustavus Adolphus College    22        1987
Concordia College            18        2004
University of St. Thomas     14        1990
St. Olaf College              6        1979
Hamline University            5        1988
* UM-Duluth                   3        1973
Augsburg College              2        1997
Bethel College                2  3      2001 2006
Carleton College              2        1992
%Macalester College           2        1947

[TC]

A mix of current and historic, off the top of my head:

1. St. John's
2. Concordia
3. St. Thomas
4. Bethel
5. Gustavus
6. St. Olaf
7. Augsburg 
8. Carleton
9. Hamline

Just one opinion...

I love it....he is fuming! 

Tooth, the lecture is gripping!

If he's fuming about that, he needs to keep in mind that they have leapfrogged 3 or 4 teams since 1999.

[tmerton]

BDB: Were you planning on sharing the scouting report with MIAC PP for Whitworth?  I see your Blue Devils played them into OT earlier in the season...

That was the game raiderguy came over for.

Been awhile, but I wasn't overimpressed with them. Nice QB, monster Tight End who was missing in the passing game until the tying drive in regulation. Whitworth was held scoreless by Stout until 3 seconds remained in the game. The Rats converted a couple 4th downs in that drive as well I believe.

The one thing that really impressed me was how the squad never quit and found a way to win 1500 miles from home. Hopefully the Johnnies get up early and keep the pedal to the metal on these guys.

Their quarterback is quite mobile, his completion stats for the Linfield game were 2 out of 10 passes completed. That probably was because of the weather. He is not afraid to run the ball and seemed to be quite successful at it. They have a tight end that is like 6'7" or 6'9", either way, he is huge. The Whitworth mother I was sitting by assured me that their punter and kicker were both good...she might be biased though! Their win over Linfield seemed to have more to do with there ability to capitalize on Linfield mistakes than their ability to dominate a game. The Johnnies will need to make sure that they hold on to the ball or Whitworth will make them pay...

Apparently the Whitworth qb has a bad wheel (ankle/foot/whatever), which made him not very mobile last week against Oxy.  Let's hope he's still a gimp this week.

[tmerton]

I need some help from all of you MIACers.  As we speak I'm in class with a Bethel alum and former football player.  We are arguing about what Bethel's place is in the conference.  I'm telling him they are no better than the third best program in the MIAC (behind St Johns and Concordia) and he is saying that they are in the top 2 (won't even admit St. Johns is #1).  Semi-objective input would be appreciated.

Start with league titles:

MIAC Titles Won or Shared (1920-2005)                               
School                          No.      Last Title
St. John's University        28        2005   
Gustavus Adolphus College    22        1987
Concordia College            18        2004
University of St. Thomas     14        1990
St. Olaf College              6        1979
Hamline University            5        1988
* UM-Duluth                   3        1973
Augsburg College              2        1997
Bethel College                2        2001
Carleton College              2        1992
%Macalester College           2        1947

I'll get in trouble with Duff, Sum, but that should be updated to reflect the 2006 co-championship that SJU and that other school shared.

[DustySJU]

I think Kelly said something like 130 seats sold, lots more room on the plain.

Did not ask about the liquids issue.

Spokane weather is more like Montana, less like the "pacific" weather
of Seattle or Portland.

I hope the forecast Sumander posted is more accurate than the one I posted.

Plain???

Did you really attend SJU, or are you a WIAC boy?

Duff; 

Any chance you crack the leather open and join us for fellowship aboard the Johnnie Air Armada?

We await your response..... 

[DuffMan]

I need some help from all of you MIACers.  As we speak I'm in class with a Bethel alum and former football player.  We are arguing about what Bethel's place is in the conference.  I'm telling him they are no better than the third best program in the MIAC (behind St Johns and Concordia) and he is saying that they are in the top 2 (won't even admit St. Johns is #1).  Semi-objective input would be appreciated.

Rockcat, since he won't admit that SJU is #1, I will assume that you are the teacher and that this is a special needs class that you're teaching.

If we're basing this on recent history (say, since 2000), I would say, without a doubt in my mind, SJU is #1.  Then, it's a toss up between Bethel and Concordia.  If we're talking strictly on the MIAC, I might give the edge to Bethel, but Concordia has actually enjoyed some success on the national level.  

[kubiack78]

I think Kelly said something like 130 seats sold, lots more room on the plain.

Did not ask about the liquids issue.

Spokane weather is more like Montana, less like the "pacific" weather
of Seattle or Portland.

I hope the forecast Sumander posted is more accurate than the one I posted.

Plain???

Did you really attend SJU, or are you a WIAC boy?

Wow you couldn't use UST or Bethel huh Duff??

[DuffMan]

I think Kelly said something like 130 seats sold, lots more room on the plain.

Did not ask about the liquids issue.

Spokane weather is more like Montana, less like the "pacific" weather
of Seattle or Portland.

I hope the forecast Sumander posted is more accurate than the one I posted.

Plain???

Did you really attend SJU, or are you a WIAC boy?

Duff; 

Any chance you crack the leather open and join us for fellowship aboard the Johnnie Air Armada?

We await your response..... 

Sorry, funds discourage the trip   The really sad thing is that if UWW and SJU both win, I will be unable to go to WW on the 2nd, too.  Root for LAX and SJU, because I could still attend that game and bolt back to the cities for a work obligation.