FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[cobbernation]

Pretty interesting day yesterday with college football at all levels.  Lots of upsets and close to upsetting.  However, my cobbers prevailed over the auggie tech techers.  Looking forward to this weekend in moorhead for homecoming!  Should be a good one with the pipers coming to town.

Piperinsider,  who should we be looking for to make big plays for hamline?

[janesvilleflash]

I just deleted two of the best posts ever.

[Retired Old Rat]

Ah....memories.  I stumbled upon this on You Tube.  Thought some of you alumni might enjoy this:

"Jackass" meets Tommy Hall at SJU

Based on the door in the background at the start of the video that looks like 1st Tommy Long.  Spent two of the best years of my life there.  Almost brings tears to my eyes.

[MongolianWarrior]

On the plus side, the loss wasn't the worst part of the day for my crew...Frank's old college roomie had some gay dude grind on him at a bar last night. It was awkward and almost started a fight. As for the shrimp...the leftovers sure tasted good yesterday night; looks like I outsmarted the SJU clan with my frozen shrimp that barely got touched 

Yeah, sorry I missed that.

Wonka, you going to the Bethel game?  I think Frank said he was out.  But rumor has it a NCAA record holder will be there because his wife will be out of town. 
I plan on going.

[gacbacker]

Wonka, I'm puzzled by your criticism of Stolp after Saturday's game in Northfield. While he didn't have his best game of the season, if I had to make a list of the top five reasons that Gustavus got destroyed, Stolp wouldn't make the list.

Clearly the number one reason was the poor play by the Gustavus secondary - something that has plagued the program for the last decade. We always seem to have undersized corners who lack the ability and athleticism to match up with the conference's top receivers. Either Schoenebeck has had trouble recruiting at this position or he doesn't place much emphasis on it and decides to have his better athletes play different positions.

Red zone ineptness in the first half was the second reason the Oles rolled and from my vantage point this wasn't Stolp's fault. No push from the offensive line on running plays from inside the three yard line and a couple of questionable play calls in my opinion.

Stolp could have completed 80% of his passes for 300+ yards and the Gusties still would have lost that game by multiple touchdowns.

[Baby Biggin]

The best part of the game was easy to pick, since the Gusties had so few highlights. Baby Biggins and his clan of shirtless nerds stood in the endzone creating stupid chants before every single play. Once involved telling Brownie to get off the field as he called his audibles. The ref promptly turned around and told these chumps to get off the field themselves. I can only guess at the type of reception they'll receive in Collegeville if they pull that next week, including circling the track after scores...

Well if you want to make stuff up thats fine. There was no case of that happening the entire. game. We were never told to get off the field. We did however tell each other, to make sure that the field was players only. Part of that GAC offensive system is for the coach to go on the field and call an audible. Its "revolutionary", but easily loses effect when the coach is disturbed by several, loud, dry campus enthusiasts.

Hope you all had a great weekend. Johnnies, everyone has a bad day. It doesn't help that the HOT (sorry, mostly oles will get that one) carls coach is a former Johnny. Also the fields meidt have been a little muddy. We all know how you guys like to play on grass. 

[Baby Biggin]

gift for you johnnies. good article actually.


http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=fitness&category=motivation&conitem=34d70dee29352110VgnVCM10000013281eac____

I also want to say that my previous post presumes that me and the other letters had something to do with the win. I just want to correct myself by saying it was all Oles football on Saturday. Nothing to do with a bunch of regular students.

Great Preparation and Effort by the Oles and Coaching Staff.

[Willy Wonka]

Wonka, I'm puzzled by your criticism of Stolp after Saturday's game in Northfield. While he didn't have his best game of the season, if I had to make a list of the top five reasons that Gustavus got destroyed, Stolp wouldn't make the list.

Clearly the number one reason was the poor play by the Gustavus secondary - something that has plagued the program for the last decade. We always seem to have undersized corners who lack the ability and athleticism to match up with the conference's top receivers. Either Schoenebeck has had trouble recruiting at this position or he doesn't place much emphasis on it and decides to have his better athletes play different positions.

Red zone ineptness in the first half was the second reason the Oles rolled and from my vantage point this wasn't Stolp's fault. No push from the offensive line on running plays from inside the three yard line and a couple of questionable play calls in my opinion.

Stolp could have completed 80% of his passes for 300+ yards and the Gusties still would have lost that game by multiple touchdowns.

I'll agree with you, in part.

Our defense was brutal, but that was to be expected. What wasn't expected was the Gustie offense struggling so much and the bulk of that falls on Stolp, in my opinion.

Mitch Anderson ran well (16-76, with a long KO return) until we had to abandon the running game due to the huge deficit and the special teams were stronger than expected (missed XP aside), but the passing game failed to live up to expectations right from the start. We got a delay of game on our first play for Schoenebeck's sake, and then threw a horrible INT to a covered player after staring the receiver down from the snap.

Our first five possessions ended like this: interception, 21-yard field goal, 9-yard TD pass after starting inside the 10, punt and a 23-yard field goal. That's a win for the Ole defense on on four of the first five possessions.

Stolp finished the first half 8-for-19 for 107 yards with a TD and an INT. He was sacked twice and took two delay of games. Trailing 35-12 and getting the ball to start the second half, he goes 2-for-6 for 8 yards and an INT on the Gusties' first two possessions after the break as the game got completely out of hand. Two picks and a fumble don't add much to your argument either, especially considering Stolp had zero turnovers over the first three games (I think, fumbles aren't tracked real well on the web site).

So we're clear, he went 10-fort-25 for 115 yards with a TD and 2 INTs before getting scrub stats in a game we knew was going to be a shootout. I don't know what standards you're holding him to, but that's not good in my book.

For reference, a quick glance through history shows Gustie great Bobby Southworth — whose records Stolp's going to shatter — had one such bad game in '98 against SJU. Stolp seems to have a history of such games, or worse. If the record book is gonna show him as the best quarterback in GAC history, I certainly hope he is able to turn in at least one good game against a quality MIAC opponent before his career is over — he averaged 175 yards with 4 TDs and 9 INTs against the top four teams as a junior.

He's a good quarterback, but tends to be extremely streaky in terms of decision-making and accuracy. He didn't lose GAC the game on Saturday — the defense clearly did that — but he certainly didn't keep the team in a position to remain competitive as I'd expected after the first three outings of the year.

Mongo - I'm moving midweek, but should be all settled by then. I'm just hoping we can avoid the INT disaster that place has been in recent years (Stolp: 7 in 2004; Thorvig: 6 in 2000, with 2 others called back). You sure you don't have a bday party for your girlfriend's cousin's fiance's niece you need to attend this Saturday?

Baby - I'm sure it's just coincidence that you were standing on the grass near the end zone as the Gusties were going in to score their first TD when the back judge turned around and said something and your entire group backed up to the hard stuff as one. My bad.

I'm just hoping your crew takes its act up to Collegeville this weekend so the Johnnies can laugh at you as much as I did.

[OleFan]

What killed GAC:

You should never end up inside the 10 yard line 3 times and walk away with 12 points.
No pressure on the QB leading to a lack of ability to cover multiple receivers.
Size disadvantage in the defensive backfield.  I wish I had the stats in front of me, but I think there were times they gave up 6 inches on receivers.
Moving away from the run.  That actually worked against St. Olaf
Too many weapons for St. Olaf.
Turnovers (you can't lose that battle)
Penalties (seems like the first time the Oles didn't have more than the other team)
Stolp not playing to his potential (50% completion for 200+ is not bad)
I also think Stolp needs to be a better leader or the coaching staff needs to cut the cord.  Stolp should make the check downs at the line.  This setting at the line then calling a different play just did not work for me.  They should try running a no huddle with a spread formation and snap the ball within 10 seconds of it being set.  You give the D too much time to reset, and I thought the Oles knew what was coming at times and made adjustments before the snap.

Away from the penalties you have to give most of the credit to Olaf.  They played an excellent game.  They flat out slaughtered a good GAC team.

I would also warn against criticizing a DB.  Spending time with Charlie Waters I learned how many times those guys get blamed for someone else missing an assignment, poor coaching, or ineffective schemes.  A few years ago SJU torched the Olaf secondary while they tried playing a Singles coverage the whole game.  I am not completely sold on defensive backfield philosophies in MN.  The cover 2 works great until you have to start covering multiple top notch receivers.  This could go on, but I think you get the picture.

[DustySJU]

All;  It's a regular GAC/Ole love fest today... never seen anything like it.   

[sjusection105]

All;  It's a regular GAC/Ole love fest today... never seen anything like it.   

I saw this on the Discovery Channel, it's called "When Lutherans Attack....Each Other"

BTW-I'm a Lutheran

[TC]

I'm just hoping your crew takes its act up to Collegeville this weekend so the Johnnies can laugh at you as much as I did.

Laugh at them?  We'll need a search party just to find them in a sea of 10,000+.

[DuffMan]

I'm just wondering if the Olaf concession stands ran out of everything before halftime again

[finsleft]

Yes, it's Ole week. Let's break out the jello!

Ole and Lena got married. On their honeymoon trip they were nearing Minneapolis when Ole put his hand on Lena's knee. Giggling, Lena Said, "Ole, you can go farther if ya vant to"... so Ole drove to Duluth.

[TheStOlafFootballOles]

New Top 25 Poll up fellas.  Hardly any changes...

Surprisingly St. Johns still at #4 after trailing all game vs. a mediocre Carleton team... btw Oles moved up 5 spots...