FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Willy Wonka]

Wonka you make good arguments especially the one about showing up in big games, but I think the Stolp vs. Southworth comparison is unfair on the basis that Southworth had a little more to work with.

Southworth had a much better and bigger offensive line, a steady running attack with Travis Prunty and Ryan Britz who averaged 5 and 6 yards per carry respectively (until this year the Gustie running game has been pretty ordinary during Stolp's tenure), two stud tight ends in Charlie Vacek and Brent Olson, and a receiver in Chris Swansson who held every meaningful school receiving record until Hoag came along.

That all depends on your point of view. Would you rather be a sweet QB with bad WRs and a great running game in a Joe Gibbs-type offense or an above-average QB with good receivers and a garbo running game in a Mike Martz-type offense? Neither seems ideal, which makes using the argument to prove or disprove anything fairly difficult.

In talking with Thorvig, Brownie and multiple other people who saw those years, it was no secret how bad the WRs were during that era. It's just a hunch but had Southworth come along a few years later, his records would have been untouchable with Brau, Hoag, Greavu, Traetow and yours truly to work with.

[DustySJU]

http://www.miac-online.org/News/football/2007/10/1/fb100107.asp?path=football

I've never really browsed the miac-online.org site before. Imagine my surprise upon clicking on Hamline and finding this:


Nice 'stache!


Yes, I realize that's her lip.

You're sick! 

[Kilted Rat]

BTW, does JohnnieFootball.com have an official medical correspondent yet?

KR-
We need you. Can you write me up a prescription for Hamm's so I can get my insurance to pay for it? And hurry, I'll need it before I write my next column. 8)
Thanks Doc!

Name: FinsLeft                 Date: 01 October 2007

Rx: Hamm's beer (12 oz cans)
Sig: Drink 1-3 beers as needed every hour until giggly.
Dispense: 30
Refills: 78

Dr. KiltedRat


Scary thought of the day: Only 7 months and 24 days until I can actually write prescriptions!

[TheStOlafFootballOles]

http://www.miac-online.org/News/football/2007/10/1/fbaow.asp?path=football

MIAC players of the week announced, 2 oles, 1 hot carl.

[TC]

Name: FinsLeft                 Date: 01 October 2007

Rx: Hamm's beer (12 oz cans)
Sig: Drink 1-3 beers as needed every hour until giggly.
Dispense: 30
Refills: 78

Dr. KiltedRat


Scary thought of the day: Only 7 months and 24 days until I can actually write prescriptions!

No pharmacy would ever fill that.  It's way too legible.

[Kilted Rat]

http://www.miac-online.org/News/football/2007/10/1/fbaow.asp?path=football

MIAC players of the week announced, 2 oles, 1 hot carl.

The only Hot Carl this weekend will be the one Kofoed drops onto Meidt's stunned face when the score is 24-0 SJU at halftime.

[Kilted Rat]

Name: FinsLeft                 Date: 01 October 2007

Rx: Hamm's beer (12 oz cans)
Sig: Drink 1-3 beers as needed every hour until giggly.
Dispense: 30
Refills: 78

Dr. KiltedRat


Scary thought of the day: Only 7 months and 24 days until I can actually write prescriptions!

No pharmacy would ever fill that.  It's way too legible.

Computerized prescriptions my boy! Now people are actually getting the meds the doc wanted them to get in the first place!*


* An estimated 5% of all prescriptions are filled with the wrong medicine or dose due to pharmacies being unable to read the chicken scratch!

[finsleft]

Name: FinsLeft                 Date: 01 October 2007

Rx: Hamm's beer (12 oz cans)
Sig: Drink 1-3 beers as needed every hour until giggly.
Dispense: 30
Refills: 78

Dr. KiltedRat

"PRINT"

Thanks Dr. KR. I'm feeling better already!

And no way is the "pharmacist" going to give me generic. Don't tell me Keystone Light is the same medicine as Hamm's, Mister!

[OleFan]

Wasn't Bluto PreMed?

Comparing common opponents can be helpful to compare teams prior to a game.  The big thing for St. Olaf is to not get down early.  They have to stay in the game.  They have fallen behind big in the past, and we have to prevent that in this year.  The Olaf offense needs to possess the ball.  SJU has too many players to let it become a shootout.  I do not expect Olaf to slow it down, but I think it will be key.  If Olaf tries to up the pace then they have to force SJU to make bad decisions.  That is also possible, since SJU has shown a problem overcoming big deficits.

[Mr.Shoes]

That is also possible, since SJU has shown a problem overcoming big deficits.

I can remember us being down "big" twice since I've started following SJU football (fall '99).
1) 2002 @ MUC
2) 2005 @ UWW

Name me one team in the country that wouldn't have had trouble overcoming those deficits.

I guess there's also UWEC in '04 in Kofoed's first game ever (but he only got the second half and nearly brought us back) and Bethel last year (but we weren't down early and two scores isn't "big"). No matter how you slice it, that doesn't strike me as a useful sample size from which to draw a meaningful conclusion.

Edit: and UWEC in '01.

[Kilted Rat]

Wasn't Bluto PreMed?

Yeah, he was. So were approximately 215 other CSB/SJU freshmen back when I came to SJU in fall 2000. Roughly a bit less than 10% of that group made it to med school thus far.

A famed member of this board as well as the president of the Classless A$$hole club was once a pre-med way back when before he discovered the glory that is the Sal's University Bachelor's of Management

[finsleft]

D-Day: Hey, quit your blubberin'. When I get through with this baby you won't even recognize it.
Otter: Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You f***ed up - you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help.
Flounder: [crying] That's easy for you to say! What am I going to tell Fred?
Otter: I'll tell you what. We'll tell Fred you were doing a great job taking care of his car, but you parked it out back last night and in the morning, it was gone. We report it to the police, D-Day takes care of the wreck, the insurance company buys your brother a new car.
Flounder: Will that work?
Otter: Hey, it's gotta work better than the truth.
Bluto: [thrusting six-pack into Flounder's hands] My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
Otter: Better listen to him, Flounder, he's in pre-med.
D-Day: [firing up blow-torch] There you go now, just leave everything to me.

[shakenbake35]

Well, I thought it might be trouble when we drove thru the torrential downpour on the way to the game Saturday, and it was.  I knew Olaf was good, but I thought the Gusties might put up more of a fight.  I really don't think there was too much that GAC could have done differently, as Schmiesing and Gant were bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic than our secondary and the QB put it on the money all game long.  When they weren't taking advantage of the 7-8 yard cushion our DB's were giving, they were efficiently executing everything else in their game plan.  Gant also had a Moss, circa '98/'07, TD catch that was awesome.

History shows not to pick against the Johnnies, so I will say this St. Olaf's offense was very impressive and if you think you can get shutout in the first half only to come back and win 10-7 or some sort of low scoring game I wouldn't bet on it.  I am sure SJU's bigger d-backs will be more of a challenge for StO WR's.   But defensively St. Olaf didn't bring too much to the table.  I felt that the Gustie offense really shot itself in the foot by having too many errors (mental and physical) at the wrong times (i.e. 3rd down miscues, and silly penalties), but that has kind of been our M.O. over the last couple yrs.

p.s. Baby Biggins you and your cronies should put down the  RPG's (role playing games not rocket propelled grenades) and get outside to excercise and get sunlight as I wasn't even mad, that was impressive...ly gross!

Shaking out all the little details I got SJU 42- St. Olaf 32 (with a late TD)

[MongolianWarrior]

Wonka you make good arguments especially the one about showing up in big games, but I think the Stolp vs. Southworth comparison is unfair on the basis that Southworth had a little more to work with.

Southworth had a much better and bigger offensive line, a steady running attack with Travis Prunty and Ryan Britz who averaged 5 and 6 yards per carry respectively (until this year the Gustie running game has been pretty ordinary during Stolp's tenure), two stud tight ends in Charlie Vacek and Brent Olson, and a receiver in Chris Swansson who held every meaningful school receiving record until Hoag came along.

Rumor has it that Southworth would organize plays on his hand in the huddle, which would lead to touchdowns.  Plus, he kind of looks like a young Mick Jagger, but I dont know if that is good or bad.

Wonka, you live near Red Wing, right?  Is this girl watching you play video games?:
http://www.93x.com/hotchick.asp

As far as saturday goes, I will be going to the game, unless your mom has a birthday that day.

[Seton41]

That is also possible, since SJU has shown a problem overcoming big deficits.

It seems that an undefeated Ole team had some trouble overcoming a "big deficit" a couple years ago...