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[redlandsfan]

I will be making the trip to St. Johns...any good places to eat out there?  I heard nobody tailgates like the Johnnies...but what about Friday night?  Where should I go?

Thanks

[Buckman]

I will be making the trip to St. Johns...any good places to eat out there?  I heard nobody tailgates like the Johnnies...but what about Friday night?  Where should I go?

Thanks

Where will you be staying Friday night?

[Mr.Shoes]

I will be making the trip to St. Johns...any good places to eat out there?  I heard nobody tailgates like the Johnnies...but what about Friday night?  Where should I go?

Thanks

Where will you be staying Friday night?

That's the million-dollar question right there. In the Cities: tons o' places. In St. Cloud: a handful.

Looking forward to hosting you, redlandsfan. Enjoy the trip (up, not back ).

[redlandsfan]

Buckman,

In 02 we stayed in St. Cloud...so I am assuming I will be there again.  Not sure yet...I was going to wait and see which hotel Redlands was staying in and then decide, but I have not gotten the word yet.

[VOJ]

I will be making the trip to St. Johns...any good places to eat out there?  I heard nobody tailgates like the Johnnies...but what about Friday night?  Where should I go?

Thanks

Where will you be staying Friday night?

That's the million-dollar question right there. In the Cities: tons o' places. In St. Cloud: a handful.

Looking forward to hosting you, redlandsfan. Enjoy the trip (up, not back ).

redlandsfan:

if you are looking for places to eat...

Granite City Food and Brewery is a St. Cloud original and one of my personal favorites...its a little upscale but offers great micro-brews on tap

Another is Antone's...more of a supper club feel,

If you like Mexican, La Casita has just been re-built and has a great atmosphere in the bar area...

What are you in the mood for?  You are right on with regards to the tailgating, Johnny Red and the boys do it right...and you are welcome to enjoy it as well!!

[redlandsfan]

VOJ,

Thanks for advice on food!!!  I'm looking forward to seeing what St. Johns has to offer.  When I played in 02 I remember leaving the hotel in St. Cloud and when our bus pulled of the highway and entered the campus of St. Johns I was shocked by how many folks were already tailgating and having a good time!  It was nice to see...the enviornment was great!!!!

I always eat everything I can when I travel.....im making a nice list now!

[Buckman]

Buckman,

In 02 we stayed in St. Cloud...so I am assuming I will be there again.  Not sure yet...I was going to wait and see which hotel Redlands was staying in and then decide, but I have not gotten the word yet.

I'd imagine they'd be out on the West end somewhere, just guessing though.  Holiday Inn possibly.  If it's anywhere near there, you can pretty much pick a place, many within walking distance.  Keep us updated as you determine things and we'll let you know what's closest.

[Mr.Shoes]

Granite City Food and Brewery is a St. Cloud original and one of my personal favorites...its a little upscale but offers great micro-brews on tap

I'll second GC. The brew is fantastic. My personal favorite is the stout, but the red is great as well.

If you like Mexican, La Casita has just been re-built and has a great atmosphere in the bar area...

Guadalajara is another Mexican joint that has been completely rebuilt. Unfortunately, after Homecoming we waited 55 minutes for our food when the restaurant was far from full. Big negative there.

Continuing the Mexican theme, my girlfriend grew up in StC (no jokes, guys ) and ranks Mexican Village as the far-and-away best place for south-of-the-border food. (Awful web sites: location 1, too)

If you want something fancier and quieter and happen to be staying downtown, DB Searle's is my personal favorite place to eat in StC. It's four stories tall in a classic building. There's a local-style pub on the first floor, a sports bar occupies the second, and dining takes place on the third and fourth. Their terrible web site says that they recently redid the dining area, not that it was bad before.


Interesting. In my Googling for those restaurant web sites, I found this on the CSB|SJU site: Area Restaurants. How useful!

[Retired Old Rat]

By the way to clear up the blocked FG...it was Jerry Haugen who was making the argument about where the ball should be placed...not John, so all you Bethel fans who think that John intimidated the officials or used some jedi mind-trick can just move on...

I was 15 feet away from this discussion.  Jerry was doing most of the talking.  John said almost nothing.  I was really hoping John would start flapping his arms and stomping his foot.  I was hoping for a good photo op.

[johnnie_esq]

I know.  But by extension, what is the difference if it goes out of bounds or if BU recovers it?  Then, what if SJU just falls on it?  Seems to me they all are the same situation. So I think this controls.

But even then, they screwed up since the ball should have been on the 12 by that ruling...unless I am missing something else here.

This should tie up the remaining loose ends. 

Spot Where Kick Ends
ARTICLE 9. A scrimmage kick that crosses the neutral zone ends at the spot
where possession is gained or regained or the ball is declared dead by rule.
Exceptions:
1. When a kick ends in Team B's end zone, the postscrimmage kick spot
is Team B's 20-yard line.
2. On an unsuccessful field goal attempt that has crossed the neutral
zone and is untouched by Team B after crossing the neutral zone and
declared dead beyond the neutral zone, the postscrimmage kick spot
is the previous spot. If the previous spot is between Team B's 20-yard
line and the goal line, and the unsuccessful field goal attempt that has
crossed the neutral zone and is untouched by Team B after crossing
the neutral zone, and is declared dead beyond the neutral zone, the
spot where the kick ends is the 20-yard line (A.R. 10-2-2-XXV).
3. When Rule 6-3-11 is in effect, the postscrimmage kick spot is the
20-yard line.

Keeping in mind that the neutral zone on a kick extends past the line of scrimmage (3 yards past I beleive) and also the play can be determined to be dead before there is any touch or possesion.

That's kind of what I was alluding to, but was too lazy to look it up myself.

In any event it was a moot issue:  we went three and out on the ensuing possession, and, combined with 27 yard punt, gave the ball back in great field position.

[bennie]

I was 15 feet away from this discussion.  Jerry was doing most of the talking.  John said almost nothing.  I was really hoping John would start flapping his arms and stomping his foot.  I was hoping for a good photo op.

If only he had thrown his hat....

[Retired Old Rat]

I was 15 feet away from this discussion.  Jerry was doing most of the talking.  John said almost nothing.  I was really hoping John would start flapping his arms and stomping his foot.  I was hoping for a good photo op.

If only he had thrown his hat....

He had the big down maroon parka with the hood pulled up over his head.  No hat to throw this time.  Unless maybe he keeps one in his pocket if the need should arise.  Or, I suppose he could have thrown Jerry's hat.

[TC]

I will be making the trip to St. Johns...any good places to eat out there?  I heard nobody tailgates like the Johnnies...but what about Friday night?  Where should I go?

Thanks

Where will you be staying Friday night?

That's the million-dollar question right there. In the Cities: tons o' places. In St. Cloud: a handful.

Looking forward to hosting you, redlandsfan. Enjoy the trip (up, not back ).

redlandsfan:

if you are looking for places to eat...

Granite City Food and Brewery is a St. Cloud original and one of my personal favorites...its a little upscale but offers great micro-brews on tap

Another is Antone's...more of a supper club feel,

If you like Mexican, La Casita has just been re-built and has a great atmosphere in the bar area...

What are you in the mood for?  You are right on with regards to the tailgating, Johnny Red and the boys do it right...and you are welcome to enjoy it as well!!

And if you want to have the "real" St. John's experience, head into St. Joseph for a pizza at Gary's.  Have it delivered to either Sal's or the LaPlayette, where you'll find plenty of your favorite cheap domestic beers on tap.

But if you do stay in St. Cloud Friday evening...

Granite City Food and Brewery is a St. Cloud original and one of my personal favorites...its a little upscale but offers great micro-brews on tap

I'll second GC. The brew is fantastic. My personal favorite is the stout, but the red is great as well.

I'll third Granite City.  The garlic mashed potatoes pretty much kick ass, and the Broad Axe Stout is definitely the beer of choice--but don't let that stop you from trying them all.

Of course, save room for the tailgate the next morning. 

my girlfriend grew up in StC (no jokes, guys )

Umm... Wouldn't that make you her brother?

[DuffMan]

I'll third Granite City.  The garlic mashed potatoes pretty much kick ass, and the Broad Axe Stout is definitely the beer of choice--but don't let that stop you from trying them all.

I wouldn't call it upscale, but it is good.  I prefer the Brother Benedict (Lager?), but they're all good beers.

[OleFan]

In response to those that still argue for a playoff in D1 FBS I will point out that App. State might not make the playoffs this year.  I know that is scary to think about after they beat Michigan.  While they cannot compete for a national title they get to compete for something.  Some bowls are more meaningful than others, but that is fine.  How many people complained about the bowl system prior to major alliances and BCS?  I am dead serious about the bowl games.  They mean a lot to everyone involved, and they are a ton of fun.  I have done the sponsored parties for multiple bowl games, been to street rallies the night prior to the games (Dallas West End with lots of drunk LSU fans was out of control), parades, and numerous other events.  Each event is absolutely amazing.  When Minnesota goes to a bowl game I would encourage everyone to try to experience the entire event.

Adrian Peterson is a great running back.  We all knew he had issues with durability in the past.  Unfortunately this time it was a knee injury.  Hopefully he recovers.  I would not draft a QB in the first round since they always seem to be busts (then again they often face astronomical expectations), and WRs generally are not huge assets to teams.  The Vikings just need a complete overhaul.

I know.  But by extension, what is the difference if it goes out of bounds or if BU recovers it?  Then, what if SJU just falls on it?  Seems to me they all are the same situation. So I think this controls.

But even then, they screwed up since the ball should have been on the 12 by that ruling...unless I am missing something else here.

This should tie up the remaining loose ends. 

Spot Where Kick Ends
ARTICLE 9. A scrimmage kick that crosses the neutral zone ends at the spot
where possession is gained or regained or the ball is declared dead by rule.
Exceptions:
1. When a kick ends in Team B’s end zone, the postscrimmage kick spot
is Team B’s 20-yard line.
2. On an unsuccessful field goal attempt that has crossed the neutral
zone and is untouched by Team B after crossing the neutral zone and
declared dead beyond the neutral zone, the postscrimmage kick spot
is the previous spot. If the previous spot is between Team B’s 20-yard
line and the goal line, and the unsuccessful field goal attempt that has
crossed the neutral zone and is untouched by Team B after crossing
the neutral zone, and is declared dead beyond the neutral zone, the
spot where the kick ends is the 20-yard line (A.R. 10-2-2-XXV).
3. When Rule 6-3-11 is in effect, the postscrimmage kick spot is the
20-yard line.

Keeping in mind that the neutral zone on a kick extends past the line of scrimmage (3 yards past I beleive) and also the play can be determined to be dead before there is any touch or possesion.

Good find.  I know plenty of football officials that would easily get that call wrong.  I challenged one on a similar call a few weeks ago, and ended up winning.  It is a rule that lots of people screw up.