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[CC Backer]

Here is your Chuck Norris fact of the day


The last time Chuck Norris farted.......

Hurricane Katrina

[Redtooth]

The Question of the Day---- WHY DO I HATE BETHEL?

I don't know that hate is the right word.......maybe strong dislike.  Primary reason for my feeling is the level of hypocrisy exhibited by the program.  The Bible thumping love of and play for Jesus just doesn't seem to jive with the crap that most teams in the MIAC would verify occurs during a game with Bethel.  For a long time (until the Mighty Meidt went to STO) Bethel would lead the league in personal fouls on an annual basis.  A couple years back the Star Tribune ran an article about Bethel and had one of the players try and justify this fact....completely crazy. 

During my senior year, despite beating Carlton 70-7 one week earlier, Steve Johnson voted to have Carlton represent the MIAC in the playoffs.....tough pill to swallow and one that led to the beating in 1993.  How to you justify that vote?   

Last point on hypocrisy--- Bethel has been known to use a player with eligibility issues that left school within a week of the season ending, criticized SJU for playing with transfers and 5th year players---but are not above doing the same thing as evidenced by Freebird's comment on the IIAC Board today.....

"3. I get to see classmates and 5th year seniors Ben Wetzel, Steve Luebke, Tommy Davis, and Aaron Moberg play at least once more game."

I hope this clarifies why I choose to support schools other than Bethel when they are playing. 

[Freebird]

The Question of the Day---- WHY DO I HATE BETHEL?

I don't know that hate is the right word.......maybe strong dislike.  Primary reason for my feeling is the level of hypocrisy exhibited by the program.  The Bible thumping love of and play for Jesus just doesn't seem to jive with the crap that most teams in the MIAC would verify occurs during a game with Bethel.  For a long time (until the Mighty Meidt went to STO) Bethel would lead the league in personal fouls on an annual basis.  A couple years back the Star Tribune ran an article about Bethel and had one of the players try and justify this fact....completely crazy. 

During my senior year, despite beating Carlton 70-7 one week earlier, Steve Johnson voted to have Carlton represent the MIAC in the playoffs.....tough pill to swallow and one that led to the beating in 1993.  How to you justify that vote?  

Last point on hypocrisy--- Bethel has been known to use a player with eligibility issues that left school within a week of the season ending, criticized SJU for playing with transfers and 5th year players---but are not above doing the same thing as evidenced by Freebird's comment on the IIAC Board today.....

"3. I get to see classmates and 5th year seniors Ben Wetzel, Steve Luebke, Tommy Davis, and Aaron Moberg play at least once more game."

I hope this clarifies why I choose to support schools other than Bethel when they are playing. 

This is all very old news.  It is crazy how often you guys seem to bring it up.  It is funny because those things are issues on this board due to being repeatedly brought up but not issues to most people who follow the MIAC.  Sour grapes? Likely.

Also what team doesn't lose a player to injury early in the year and that player decide to come back for their final year?  When have we "criticized" you about a medical redshirt?  I have never seen a BU person do that on this board.

Losing two years in a row to Bethel must really sting for comments like that Redtooth.  Have fun              Saturday.  Fill in the blank with any thing but watching live Johnny football.

[Touchdown Tommy]

Oh that is rich Freebird.  You come on Post Patterns and yap like your Royals have won something.  Are you serious?  2007 Bethel finally gets off the schneid and you are talking smack to the Juggernaut of the MIAC for the past 50 yrs.  You can't make this shizz up fellas.  I am almost embarrassed for Brothel.  Almost.   

BU5758: I hate Bethel because...of delusional posters like Freebird.  It should be painfully obvious the rest of the MIAC dislikes/hates Bethel for a reason.  There is respect for Concordia, Gustavus, St. John's, etc.  Bethel hmmm...not so much.

FYI: My sources tell me the "late night smiter" has been exposed.  Due to some expert sleuthing by a longtime poster this new development will be disclosed shortly UNLESS he saves face and admits the -King daily late at night...

[OzJohnnie]

Losing two years in a row to Bethel must really sting...

And that is all I need to "hate" Bethel.

I try to leave the cries of hypocrisy out of my rivalry discussions (throwing the first stone and all that).  Plus, it's not like I would forgive their deplorable dirty play if they were all Satan worshipers.  It's enough for me that not only do they fail to show proper difference to Johnnies everywhere, but have the cahones to actually win games.

And now you can add Central to that list with BU and UW.  And Central have the nuts to copy our uniform colors.  I can't wait for next year.  Go Johnnies!

[KCDutch]

.  And Central have the nuts to copy our uniform colors.  I can't wait for next year.  Go Johnnies!

But I thought the Johnnies wore colors Cardinal and Blue.....no blue and definately no birds on the Central unis!

[OzJohnnie]

And one last thing - a new reason to hate them:

Where the hell are they?  They are deeper into the playoffs than they ever have been, have a reasonable chance of making it another game and it's a Bethel ghost town in here.  No friggin' school spirit.

And I hear that the Bethel administration spikes the on-campus water supply with saltpeter.

[Freebird]

Oh that is rich Freebird.  You come on Post Patterns and yap like your Royals have won something.  Are you serious?  2007 Bethel finally gets off the schneid and you are talking smack to the Juggernaut of the MIAC for the past 50 yrs.  You can't make this shizz up fellas.  I am almost embarrassed for Brothel.  Almost.   

BU5758: I hate Bethel because...of delusional posters like Freebird.  It should be painfully obvious the rest of the MIAC dislikes/hates Bethel for a reason.  There is respect for Concordia, Gustavus, St. John's, etc.  Bethel hmmm...not so much.

FYI: My sources tell me the "late night smiter" has been exposed.  Due to some expert sleuthing by a longtime poster this new development will be disclosed shortly UNLESS he saves face and admits the -King daily late at night...

What does the past 50 years have to do with anything?  I'm talking about this season which we did win something. Like a game against your team, Saint Johns University for men.  

[Freebird]

And one last thing - a new reason to hate them:

Where the hell are they?  They are deeper into the playoffs than they ever have been, have a reasonable chance of making it another game and it's a Bethel ghost town in here.  No friggin' school spirit.

And I hear that the Bethel administration spikes the on-campus water supply with saltpeter.

Right, our school spirit is defined by activity on PP. 

The only reason I'm in here is because it is funny to get TDT and Duffman riled up.

[sju56321]

Bird-thought you would have changed that avatar by now to maybe a scoreboard in the playoffs-seems beating SJU is more important than the playoffs. I can handle loosing to Bethel and getting into the playoffs each year.

[bcflyguy1]

BU5758: I hate Bethel because...of delusional posters like Freebird.  It should be painfully obvious the rest of the MIAC dislikes/hates Bethel for a reason. 

Is that really the only reason you're in here?  To wind up TDT and Duff?  Not likely.

Does anyone else remember who was calling for Steve Johnson to be fired after the loss to Buena Vista this year, saying that he wasn't a coach capable of taking Bethel to the "next level"?  He also tried to defend the students who stomped on the SJU logo after the '06 game, if I remember correctly    

Freebird, it's my privilege to nominate you for MIAC PP Turkey of the Year.  All those in favor?

Central Fans-
I respect SJU, their football team, and most of their fans but they tend to go overboard in the picture they paint of BU football.  Let me encourage you to meet as many Bethel players, coaches, and fans as you can this weekend.  Then talk to players from your team after the game to see what they thought about playing BU.  If after that you still think we're a bunch of hypocritical, Bible-thumping crotch grabbers then so be it.  I doubt you'll find that to be the case, though.

[Seton41]

What's up with the Central/Bethel lovefest on the IIAC page?  Do you guys realize you play against each other this week?  When I say "Bethel," I mean Freebird.

[Freebird]

BU5758: I hate Bethel because...of delusional posters like Freebird.  It should be painfully obvious the rest of the MIAC dislikes/hates Bethel for a reason. 

Is that really the only reason you're in here?  To wind up TDT and Duff?  Not likely.

Does anyone else remember who was calling for Steve Johnson to be fired after the loss to Buena Vista this year, saying that he wasn't a coach capable of taking Bethel to the "next level"?  He also tried to defend the students who stomped on the SJU logo after the '06 game, if I remember correctly    

Freebird, it's my privilege to nominate you for MIAC PP Turkey of the Year.  All those in favor?

Central Fans-
I respect SJU, their football team, and most of their fans but they tend to go overboard in the picture they paint of BU football.  Let me encourage you to meet as many Bethel players, coaches, and fans as you can this weekend.  Then talk to players from your team after the game to see what they thought about playing BU.  If after that you still think we're a bunch of hypocritical, Bible-thumping crotch grabbers then so be it.  I doubt you'll find that to be the case, though.

I'm in favor.  That was a horrible call on my part.

[GoldandBlueBU]

I agree with spackler in regards to the crotch grabbing/dirty play.  That definitely was the case with the team in th past, but for the past couple of years I don't think bethel has been any more guilty of questionable tactics than any other team in the conference.  Continually citing that as a why you dislike bethel is an expired reason.
Several of you also said that you hate bethel because you had lost to us.  I don't really understand that.  We've lost to sju year in and year out, and it doesn't cause any hate for sju from me, if anything, increased respect for their ability to be on top of the miac year after year.
TDT: You're always yapping about hating bethel because of delusional posters. Are you kidding me? Ever since I've started reading this board you've come off as the cockiest, biggest jacka$$ that posts here, yet your thoughts and words in no way alter my thoughts or respect for SJU. Get a life.

[WAHOO3]

Where the hell are they?  They are deeper into the playoffs than they ever have been, have a reasonable chance of making it another game and it's a Bethel ghost town in here.  No friggin' school spirit.

School spirit = posting on D3football.com post patterns
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