FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[finsleft]

TC-Good analysis on Livan. No question he's on the back nine of his career, and will be giving up some taters. From the Twins brass perspective, it was a deal they could make to spend a little over $5 mil for a seasoned veteran starter who will give them some innings and hopefully keep it close until the pen can take over. Also, a veteran presence for the young rotation will help.
He will undoubtedly notice a difference pitching in the AL.

[janesvilleflash]

Unfortunately, a pitcher who can give you 200 innings with an era around 5 is commanding at least 6 mil. I think they got a good deal, according to the market.

[TC]

Unfortunately, a pitcher who can give you 200 innings with an era around 5 is commanding at least 6 mil. I think they got a good deal, according to the market.

I agree that a pitcher who can give you 200 innings of 5.00 ERA in the AL is worth more than $6MM on a one year contract to the right team.  Livan Hernandez is not that pitcher, the Twins are not that team.



Here's what PITCHERS hit off of Livan Hernandez in 2007:  .281/.293/.368
Here's what Nicky Punto hit in 2007:  .210/.291/.271
Here's what Livan Hernandez has hit in his career:  .232/.241/.314
Here's what Johan Santana has hit in his career:  .258/.281/.355

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[finsleft]

Relax, TC.  The Twins are not going to the World Serious this year, but they have a young pitching squad with great potential for the future. They don't want to shred their arms this season. Livan is no spring chicken, but probably the best available deal for the Twins at this point. At least they're making some moves. Would you be happier with Fogg?
And speaking of moves, there is another NL DHer out there looking for a team. How 'bout the Twins sign him?

[ritz72]

Chris Meidt will always produce all star players, thats where his coaching emphisis is.  He now holds the perfect position for his coaching philosophy.  I think he is a level above where he would dominate (division 1) but he will be successful.  This also improves the college of St Olaf's chance at winning a championship in the future.  While most people will blame the 2008 slide on coach Meidts departure,the ones who really know will understand it is neccesary to win a championship.  Good Luck to the whole Meidt family.

Congrats to Meidt, but...

I got a headache just reading this...  elaborate  on how he would dominate at the DI level.  It is a little different ballgame recruiting "blue chip" Florida prospects than panning for the leftovers to come to MN. 

Who gives a rat's A$$ if you produce all star players.  Last time I checked, the goal of the sport of American Football was to win championships!  And it is the coach's job to mold those "all star" players into a cohesive unit to accomplish said objective.  This is something Meidt was never able to do in Northfield.

Perfect Position now??  He will be the QB coach, and last time I checked the talent at QB in Washington is not at that level.  Maybe, with the REdskins MO recently, he will be promoted to OC in two weeks. Even then, at the NFL level, he will have NO SAY in the talent he is given.  And in recent years, the Redskins have not been a bastian for Free Agents.

Also, not being in the "know", I find it soooooo funny that immediately after Meidt resigns, the OLE faithful strike a daggar in his back as he walks out the door with comments like, "...it is necessary to win a championship".  How quickly you all forget the  year lovefest you had for him.  I don't have nearly the time to look, but I am willing to venture there are 100-200 posts on this baord extolling the fact that Meidt was going to lead the OLEs to the promise land...

PLUS, the seed is already planted for the "2008 dimise"...That is what happens when most of the talent is in one class...

2 things:
a.) Could you please show me where the ole faithful "stab meidt in the back"?  The only Ole fans who have posted are myself and Olefan, and neither of us mentioned championships. 
b.) Don't be fooled by the graduation of the class of 2008.  There is still plenty talent on this team, and while I'm not quite as bold as I was last season, I feel confident that they can pull of a 7 win season.

I think that says it....

[The White Silly]

Congratulations to Chris Meidt.  He will succeed.  In my opinion, the Twins might as well bring back David West to fill out the rotation.  Is Rich Becker available?  How's Alex Cole's back?  Jarvis Brown?  Pedro Munoz? ( I swear every game I went to growing up, for as long as we had him, Pedro Munoz went deep...I feel like you should know these things).  The Redskins might be my new favorite NFL team.

[tmerton]

Do Giants pitcher retire?  Nah, they just go to the Twins.  8)

[familyguyfaneightyfour]

ritz,
I wasn't aware that justadad was an Ole supporter.  I could have sworn that he was a johnnie fan... like 93% of the other posters here.

[sjusection105]

ritz,
I wasn't aware that justadad was an Ole supporter.  I could have sworn that he was a johnnie fan... like 93% of the other posters here.

Like many dads, he has more than one child. They don't all go to the same school, so he is an Ole fan as well as a Johnnie fan. I'm thinking he'll be more of a Johnnie fan this season.......I'm just saying 

[Kilted Rat]

news flash.
Meidt leaving Olaf for the  Redskins under Jim Zorn.
On the Olaf website.

$25 says the 'Skins lead the NFL in personal foul penalties next year!




The MIAC lead followed him when he left Bethel for Olaf, why not now?

[WAHOO3]

news flash.
Meidt leaving Olaf for the  Redskins under Jim Zorn.
On the Olaf website.

$25 says the 'Skins lead the NFL in personal foul penalties next year!




The MIAC lead followed him when he left Bethel for Olaf, why not now?

Kilted, I'm calling you out. Show me some evidence that the Oles lead the league in personal fouls. I don't believe it. Stop making stuff up.

[repete]

Wahoo,

Are you willing to prove him wrong? I know one thing for sure, the Oles were the 2007 leaders in timely personal fouls ....


H 3-8 V17 Alex Kofoed rush for loss of 1 yard to the STO18 (James Bechdol), PENALTY STO face mask 9 yards to the STO9, 1ST DOWN SJU.

[WAHOO3]

We're in America, burden of proof is on the accuser. Ask your fellow Johnnie judge guy. Looking at the # of posts you guys have it appears you have more time to look into it.

[57Johnnie]

Relax, TC.  The Twins are not going to the World Serious this year, but they have a young pitching squad with great potential for the future. They don't want to shred their arms this season. Livan is no spring chicken, but probably the best available deal for the Twins at this point. At least they're making some moves. Would you be happier with Fogg?
And speaking of moves, there is another NL DHer out there looking for a team. How 'bout the Twins sign him?

I don't know if Fogg would have been a fit for the Twins or even the AL but somebody will get a pretty good gutsy 4th or 5th starter in Fogg. He kept the Rockies in almost every game he started. 10 - 9 with an ERA below 5 at Coors ain't terrible. Absent the emergence of a couple of youngsters in Jiminez & Morales, I think the Rocks would have kept him - but what do I know - I don't even know what his price is/was.  8)

[57Johnnie]

Wahoo,

Are you willing to prove him wrong? I know one thing for sure, the Oles were the 2007 leaders in timely personal fouls ....


H 3-8 V17 Alex Kofoed rush for loss of 1 yard to the STO18 (James Bechdol), PENALTY STO face mask 9 yards to the STO9, 1ST DOWN SJU.

.... as well as....
GAME OVER - JOHNNIES WIN!