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Rugman

Quote from: Lone Auggie Backer on March 04, 2008, 11:08:26 AM
Aaron Rogers, here we come!
Quote from: Shouldabeen71 on March 04, 2008, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: retagent on March 04, 2008, 09:56:31 AM
The Caps looked invincible last night. Hope they can keep it up. I just wish someone would look at Olie's stats and figure out that his better days are behind him. I know he's a good guy and all that, but Johnson has looked so much better than Olie, I just don't understand why they feel there is any question about who should be #1 goalie, and that Johnson should be Huet's backup.

Speaking of ice, is anyone going to start to question AlGore and his rapidly melting credibility regarding "global warming?"
To quote Boone Pickens, "I believe in global warming; I just don't believe in it every day."
???

BDB

Like I always say about global warming.....

Good for us. Bad for Texas.  ;)

Rugman

Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on March 04, 2008, 11:10:52 AM
Like I always say about global warming.....

Good for us. Bad for Texas.  ;)
I don't know.  When all those bogs up north start releasing all their methane it may no longer be safe to smoke while deer hunting. ;D

On the other hand, maybe the polar bears will work their way down to Lake Superior and we'll have some new big game to hunt.

finsleft

Not to mention farting and belching livestock.  :D

People do often confuse climate and weather, though. There are many sources for carbon emissions. I commend to you this interesting article which I just read last night. According to the author, 10% of the worlds carbon dioxide emissions are attributable to Brazil and Indonesia. The 24 hour equivalent of what they contribute, would be 8,000,000 people flying at once from London to New York.  :o Even if we all drove hybrids, it would have less of an impact than stopping deforestation in other parts of the world.

I suppose replacing the grass at Clemens with turf has also had an impact. ;) (Not to mention all the beer and burger induced gas that's emitted).

Redtooth

Quote from: finsleft on March 04, 2008, 11:41:22 AM
I suppose replacing the grass at Clemens with turf has also had an impact. ;) (Not to mention all the beer and burger induced gas that's emitted).

As the author of the study that helped push SJU in the SprinTurf direction, I can assure you Fins that the replacement of the grass was an environmentally friendly decision ;).  The fake stuff saves over 2 million gallons of water per year (that was the old SJU watering estimate----not Bethel's or St. Olaf's) and has eliminated the need to put over 3,000lbs of chemicals and paints on the field per year.  In addition, the junior groundskeepers like Duff have more time to shovel poop instead of riding the mowers that ran on gas and emitted toxic smoke.  I think we did more good than bad.....


tmerton

Quote from: finsleft on March 04, 2008, 11:41:22 AM

People do often confuse climate and weather, though. There are many sources for carbon emissions. I commend to you this interesting article which I just read last night.

Fins, presumably you're familiar with the three stages of progress in reading The New Yorker?

Stage 1: You read it for the cartoons and the laughs you get.
Stage 2: You read it for the quality writing (stories and poems) and your personal enrichment.
Stage 3: You read it for the ads and the stuff you can buy or at least lust after.

Looks like you're stuck in Stage 2.

Johnnie Red

If we could only get Finsleft to read the National Review. ;)

Redtooth, good to hear from you. Hope all is well in beautiful Montana.

tmerton

For some reason I thought of Fins when I read about this experiment ...


Who's your best friend - your dog or your wife?

Hands down it's your dog.  Don't believe it?  Then try this experiment.

Put your dog and your wife in the trunk of the car for an hour.

When you open the trunk, who is really happy to see you?

cobbernation

First of all, too bad packer fans!  Second, I found a sweet video of a streaker at a cricket game!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2008/03/04/vo.aus.cricket.streaker.ninenetwork

BDB

Damn he's been in Wiscy a long time.

I still wonder how you get Farv out of FaVre.  ???

OzJohnnie

Quote from: cobbernation on March 04, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
First of all, too bad packer fans!  Second, I found a sweet video of a streaker at a cricket game!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2008/03/04/vo.aus.cricket.streaker.ninenetwork

Andrew Symonds is the Aussie player that takes down the streaker.  Pretty good shoulder, no?
  

repete

BDB,
You and
Ben Stiller
... but I hope you're better with zippers.

OzJohnnie

And here is a lecture from Michael Crichton on not global warming, but the way global warming science is being pursued.  A instructive read.  Even if you don't believe a word of what he says, you still benefit from the experience of reading it since it is such a well structured argument.  And before he is dismissed as 'just a sci-fi writer' I say play the ball, not the man (as is said in Aussie Rules Football).  In other words, common perceptions of his background (whether right or wrong) do not invalidate his arguments.

Some of my favorite paragraphs:

"Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.  Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world.  In science, consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.

"And furthermore, the consensus of scientists has frequently been wrong. As they were wrong when they believed, earlier in my lifetime, that the continents did not move. So we must remember the immortal words of Mark Twain, who said, 'Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.'"

And, if you're still reading this, from the beginning of his conclusion:

"The fact is if we required the same standard of information from climate scientists that we do from drug companies, the whole debate on global warming would be long over.  We wouldn't be talking about it."
  

BDB


Rugman

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Quote from: OxyBob on March 04, 2008, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: finsleft on March 04, 2008, 11:41:22 AM
People do often confuse climate and weather, though. There are many sources for carbon emissions.

The whole idea of man-made global warming is absurd in the extreme. Just apply some logic. The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old, plus/minus 1-2%. The Earth has survived countless geological, volcanic, climatic, and tectonic upheavals. Human beings as we know them have been on Earth for about 200,000 years. The Industrial Revolution began in or about 1750. In relative terms, if the Earth is a year old then human beings have been on Earth for about 23.4 minutes, and have been industrialized for about 1.75 seconds. To even think that we -- puny, insignificant man -- could affect the climate of the Earth in any meaningful way because we burned some all our coal and oil is the height of arrogance, vanity, and pretentiousness.

Besides, there's nothing we as humans can do about global warming (unless we have figured out a way to control the Sun), and no one really wants to do anything about it (assuming it even exists). All people want to do is talk about it, and hope that someone makes everyone else do something about it, as long as they're not personally inconvenienced.

OxyBob
Since we're taking a loooong term perspective here, I made one correction.  Also, isn't there anyone on this board who believes in intelligent design and takes the bible literally that wants to make a challenge here?